As a frequent attendee, Greensboro is by far my least favorite location. Atlanta and DC were great. NYC would be fantastic. Prudential Center is a horrendous idea.

Greensboro sucks. Have the tournament in a real city.

I know I speak as a lowly Clemson fan, but keeping the tournament in Greensboro doesn't do anything for the conference. At one point, the ACC was the wealthiest conference in the country because of the ACC tournament. That fact has changed, so it's time to change with it.

The SEC Championship Game in football is recognized as the premier game in college football outside of the National Title due to the conference's reputation, rabid fans, and media prowess. Similarly, if the ACC wants the prestige of being the best basketball conference, it needs to have the best basketball tournament. Bypassing cities like D.C. and New York for Greensboro will kill that ability based on perception alone.

I don't think New York is ideal, but this conference needs glitz and glamor if it wants the same media attention that the Big East received for the last decade and the Big Ten is starting to receive now.

They really shouldn't be calling this thing the ACC anymore. Because it isn't.

Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

Big East, A-10, probably the C-7 are already there.  Not too mention expense of attending.  I'd say Charlotte or something similar for the tournament.  I think that's probably the most fair.  If you want to rotate, then do a Charlotte, DC, Atlanta rotation or something.

Greensboro has Wendys right near the coliseum!

I'm in favor of MSG sliding into the rotation to host the ACC Tournament along with Greensboro, DC, & Atlanta. The goal should be for the tournament to be a BIG event in the host city. The tournament IS a big deal to Greensboro, while it's seemed like just another event in some other cities.

Greensboro, for example, is a much easier location more the majority of fans to attend, but the idea of having the ACC Tournament in NYC sounds pretty cool. I could go for Brooklyn, maybe. The Prudential Center (Newark) is definitely out. Are you kidding me?

flair1 wrote: Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

I thought the ACC tournament was a basketball game, not a girl's weekend.

ACC tourney quit being important around 1980 when they started to allow 3 or more teams from a conference in the NCAA field. (they allowed 2 teams in 75) And in the last 15 years it's really become a social event that is used to bring in more money. They used to always brag about the sellouts but now they have a hard time selling tickets to most schools outside the big 4.

The big east has played their tourney there forever, haven't they?  We are the new big east (thanks swofford, you crooked dumb***).  It's only fitting that the new big east play it there.

If the ACC is looking to play in NYC, I think that they will initially go with the new Barclays Center in Brooklyn.  If the Catholic schools of the former Big East don't push to have their tournament at MSG, then I see the ACC making a push to have the ACC Tournament there in the future.

Greensboro is the second-worst city on the East Coast (Jacksonville).  Richmond would be fun if it ever replaces the Coliseum.  New York, obviously, would be awesome, and even though I prefer Brooklyn as a place, nothing can top playing in MSG.

RedLight wrote: I think most of those adamantly oppossed have never visited NYC. It would be a great location and fun trip. Much more interesting than Greensboro. Ideally have it there once every 4-5 years.

DC is also a fun trip. Plus, you can stay in NOVA much cheaper and ride the metro into the city.

The biggest challenge facing the Tournamnet is how to handle expansion. Next year there will be 15 schools involved. I think on-campus play-in games for the lower seeds should be looked at to keep the event manageable.

I LIVE in NYC and dont think it should be here. Maybe once a decade. The rest of the time it should never leave Greensboro.

RedLight wrote: I think most of those adamantly oppossed have never visited NYC. It would be a great location and fun trip. Much more interesting than Greensboro. Ideally have it there once every 4-5 years.

DC is also a fun trip. Plus, you can stay in NOVA much cheaper and ride the metro into the city.

The biggest challenge facing the Tournamnet is how to handle expansion. Next year there will be 15 schools involved. I think on-campus play-in games for the lower seeds should be looked at to keep the event manageable.

appears everyone will go to where ever

The ACC Tournament will expand to five days, and all ACC teams will participate. The tournament will have three games on Wednesday, four on Thursday, four on Friday, two on Saturday and one on Sunday. The top four teams will get byes into Friday.

The ACC basketball tournaments will include all members, with the top four seeds receiving byes into the quarterfinal round.

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

kpm wrote: Greensboro has Wendys right near the coliseum!

I'm sure Jim Boeheim will roll in next year after an opening round loss and eat a bowl of Wendy's famous Chili and then start cussing at everybody in his yankee accent.

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

I would like to see every 5 years include twice in Greensboro and once each in Atlanta, Charlotte, and NYC.

WNCpackfan wrote:

kpm wrote: Greensboro has Wendys right near the coliseum!

I'm sure Jim Boeheim will roll in next year after an opening round loss and eat a bowl of Wendy's famous Chili and then start cussing at everybody in his yankee accent.

Boeheim seems more like a spicy chicken sandwich kind of guy to me.

1321wolf wrote:

flair1 wrote: Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

I thought the ACC tournament was a basketball game, not a girl's weekend.

Exactly. Its a damn basketball tournament where you spend most of the time in the arena. I live in NYC. Its a fantastic, world class city. The ACC tournament would be an after thought and the arena would be polluted with Sorrycuse fans.

1321wolf wrote:

flair1 wrote: Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

I thought the ACC tournament was a basketball game, not a girl's weekend.

You gravitate to that which you secretly love most. You meet in life the exact reproduction of your own thoughts

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1321wolf wrote:

flair1 wrote: Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

I thought the ACC tournament was a basketball game, not a girl's weekend.

Exactly. Its a damn basketball tournament where you spend most of the time in the arena. I live in NYC. Its a fantastic, world class city. The ACC tournament would be an after thought and the arena would be polluted with Sorrycuse fans.

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Why should the North Carolina schools have the advantage of polluting the arenas with their fans in Greensboro or Charlotte, as they have for all but 11 ACC Tourneys in it's history?

Who knows, maybe NC State has one less National Championship banner if the '74 Tourney is held at the Cap Center instead of in Greensboro. I know, blasphemy to even think of such a thing.

The conference is made up of members from up and down the East Coast. Rotating the Tourney to different areas seems like the fair thing to do. Having the chance to play the Tourney in the "Mecca of Basketball" is a no brainer, IMO. Maybe not for the fans of North Carolina schools (most of you aren't going if it's in G'boro, NYC or Reynolds anyways), but without question, it would be for the players of North Carolina schools. But who cares about them.

This will be my 16th ACC tournament and I love the idea of going to NYC. Greensboro is good for arena atmosphere and attendance but it absolutely sucks in terms of things to do between sessions. I know most people didn't like it but I loved Tampa. Being able to walk out to a million bars and restaurants and not having to get in your car, fight traffic only to come back two hours later was great.

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With Maryland gone, take DC off the list.  I say do a 3 city rotation.  Atlanta, Greensboro, NY, Greensboro, Atlanta, etc.

Otter74 wrote: With Maryland gone, take DC off the list.  I say do a 3 city rotation.  Atlanta, Greensboro, NY, Greensboro, Atlanta, etc.

Not a bad schedule. Very good point about Maryland leaving and DC.

Florida cities should just not be in consideration.

But Atlanta did a great job hosting the ACC tournament last year, and Phillips Arena was rocking just fine at our 2:00 game on Friday and the Semi-finals game on Saturday.

If Atlanta always uses Philips Arena, then having it there twice very 6 years could be a very good plan.

NYC should ALWAYS be at MSG, and once every 5 years at least.

And the next time the ACC Tournament is in Atlanta, the College Football Hall of Fame will be included and located right beside the Aquarium and Coca-Cola Museum, and near Philips Arena and CNN.

Just a lot to do in Atlanta.

Greensboreo is a bore.

fakeoutrage wrote: This will be my 16th ACC tournament and I love the idea of going to NYC. Greensboro is good for arena atmosphere and attendance but it absolutely sucks in terms of things to do between sessions. I know most people didn't like it but I loved Tampa. Being able to walk out to a million bars and restaurants and not having to get in your car, fight traffic only to come back two hours later was great.

would  like to see tampa alternate every  now and along with NYC,clt, atl, and gboro.

besides being on the warm coast, tampa has casinos and is close to the theme parks, so plenty to do between sessions, and surely our florida members would appreciate it.

Why not New Orleans?

We've thrown out just about every other tradition we've ever had in the Conference, why no have the Tournament in New Orleans? There are plenty of hotels close to the Super Dome, lots of great restaurants, wonderful night-life, the weather in March is usually perfect.

Since the fans of most of the teams are gonna have to fly to where-ever they hold the tournament, why not make everybody fly? Instead of pi$$ing off a few fans, pi$$ off everybody!

I barely recognize this conference I once loved.

wrcwolf wrote:

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1321wolf wrote:

flair1 wrote: Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

I thought the ACC tournament was a basketball game, not a girl's weekend.

Exactly. Its a damn basketball tournament where you spend most of the time in the arena. I live in NYC. Its a fantastic, world class city. The ACC tournament would be an after thought and the arena would be polluted with Sorrycuse fans.

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Why should the North Carolina schools have the advantage of polluting the arenas with their fans in Greensboro or Charlotte, as they have for all but 11 ACC Tourneys in it's history?

Who knows, maybe NC State has one less National Championship banner if the '74 Tourney is held at the Cap Center instead of in Greensboro. I know, blasphemy to even think of such a thing.

The conference is made up of members from up and down the East Coast. Rotating the Tourney to different areas seems like the fair thing to do. Having the chance to play the Tourney in the "Mecca of Basketball" is a no brainer, IMO. Maybe not for the fans of North Carolina schools (most of you aren't going if it's in G'boro, NYC or Reynolds anyways), but without question, it would be for the players of North Carolina schools. But who cares about them.

Why am I not surprised at your stance?
But seriously, begrudgingly, I agree with you.  Seems like playing in MSG and other major arenas on the East coast would be a selling point to recruits and it's only fair, I suppose.  But being an old school ACC fella, like myself, Greensboro is the home of the ACC tourney in my mind.  Times, they are a'changin'.

wolfer79 wrote:

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

Doesn't mean I have agree with them.  But then again, I'm a golf course superintendent and not a universtity rep.  What do I know?

^You can't get that in NYC baby!!!

SEC and get out of this new POS ACC

Regarding the ACC meetings, anyone know if division realignment is true? Found this on the FSU board:

(Atlantic first)

Florida State - Miami
Georgia Tech - Virginia
Clemson - Virginia Tech
Boston College - Louisville
Syracuse - Pittsburgh
Wake Forest - Duke
NC State - North Carolina

Figured I'd put this in this thread as opposed to make a new one since its message board rumor.

To clarify, I would assume this is for football and baseball only....not for bball.

Who cares where they host it?  State will never win it again.

Hmmmm. I'd like that.

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Regarding the ACC meetings, anyone know if division realignment is true? Found this on the FSU board:

(Atlantic first)

Florida State - Miami
Georgia Tech - Virginia
Clemson - Virginia Tech
Boston College - Louisville
Syracuse - Pittsburgh
Wake Forest - Duke
NC State - North Carolina

Figured I'd put this in this thread as opposed to make a new one since its message board rumor.

To clarify, I would assume this is for football and baseball only....not for bball.

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PackPhisherman wrote: I'd go if it's in MSG..but then again I live 1hr 15mins away from NYC. They renovated MSG and it's really nice now...

I'm voting for Dallas for the same reason.  Screw everyone else - make it easy for me to attend.

Renovations at MSG are awesome, more so after the sky walk above the court is finished. Barclays is brand new and world class but living in Manhattan precludes me from giving props to Brooklyn. Just don't see the new Big East or Catholic league having enough pull with fan attendance to keep the ACC tourney out of MSG or Barclays.

I have not been to Greensboro for an acc tournament but have been there two times for NCAA first and second rounds. I found the building cavernous, cold and sterile. The tmosphere sucked. And the city is garbage too. But again, that was for an NCAA tourney

The only time the building had any energy was when duke and or Carolina played at that venue