Because of the Atlantic Coast Conference's increased footprint in the Northeast, the ACC is interested in holding a future men's basketball tournament in New York, an ACC school official told ESPN.

Besides New York, other cities being considered to host the 2016-21 ACC tournaments are Atlanta (Philips Arena), Charlotte, Greensboro, N.C., Tampa, Fla., and Washington D.C.

Four cities -- Miami, Orlando, Pittsburgh and Atlanta (Georgia Dome), who all submitted a bid to host a tournament between 2016-21 -- have been eliminated from contention to host. Despite the Georgia Dome hosting the two highest-attended conference tournaments (the 2001 and '09 ACC tournaments), it was eliminated because of the ACC's preference to place future tournaments in more traditional basketball arenas instead of domes.

Blasphemy.

Of course the ACC is looking at New York. I like that they eliminated he Georgia Dome and want to keep it in traditional basketball venues.

Virginia sucks so hard. It's a decent middle host ground and can't host ****.

The Purdential Center in Newark is good place in the NY area.  Yeah, yeah I know what some will say, but it was a great place for the Rolling Stones back in December and you are not tied into being in Manhattan.

Having the tourney there would be a blast

wolfer79 wrote: Because of the Atlantic Coast Conference's increased footprint in the Northeast, the ACC is interested in holding a future men's basketball tournament in New York, an ACC school official told ESPN.

Besides New York, other cities being considered to host the 2016-21 ACC tournaments are Atlanta (Philips Arena), Charlotte, Greensboro, N.C., Tampa, Fla., and Washington D.C.

Four cities -- Miami, Orlando, Pittsburgh and Atlanta (Georgia Dome), who all submitted a bid to host a tournament between 2016-21 -- have been eliminated from contention to host. Despite the Georgia Dome hosting the two highest-attended conference tournaments (the 2001 and '09 ACC tournaments), it was eliminated because of the ACC's preference to place future tournaments in more traditional basketball arenas instead of domes.

The dearth of good hotels in Greensboro has to become an issue now that the league has added Syr, Louisville, Pitt and ND.

It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

They should.consider it for 3 sec and then announce Greensboro.

Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

This used to be home to Nascar too! North-Wilkesboro, Rockingham, Enjoy it, while you still have it, because the almighty dollar talks, and the rest walks.

How do we as State fans lobby for Greensboro without looking like "homers?"  I dont know how to answer that because I am a North Carolinian and a State grad....

But IMO, every tournament I see on TV not in Greensboro sucks!   I know even in G'Boro the Thursday and early Friday games have gotten sparse, but even the Saturday games, the BEST day of the tourney,  in Tampa and Atlanta, looked dead and no one outside of FSU or Miami hardly wanted to travel.

Is Greensboro a geographical advantage to Duke, UNC, NCSU, and Wake?  Maybe a little.  But I promise the teams who deserve to win, win.  Just ask Florida State!

I was there in Washington DC when we finally appeased Gary Williams to have a tournament there and to watch him go out in the FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tradition = Greensboro

4 schools in NC and nearby school in Clemson = Greensboro

It keeps the tournament relevant and it gets the best fan base who knows how to distribute tickets and travel...

You would think Swofford would want Greensboro considering how much it benefits UNC and Duke!

cwsloan wrote: How do we as State fans lobby for Greensboro without looking like "homers?"  I dont know how to answer that because I am a North Carolinian and a State grad....

But IMO, every tournament I see on TV not in Greensboro sucks!   I know even in G'Boro the Thursday and early Friday games have gotten sparse, but even the Saturday games, the BEST day of the tourney,  in Tampa and Atlanta, looked dead and no one outside of FSU or Miami hardly wanted to travel.

Is Greensboro a geographical advantage to Duke, UNC, NCSU, and Wake?  Maybe a little.  But I promise the teams who deserve to win, win.  Just ask Florida State!

I was there in Washington DC when we finally appeased Gary Williams to have a tournament there and to watch him go out in the FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tradition = Greensboro

4 schools in NC and nearby school in Clemson = Greensboro

It keeps the tournament relevant and it gets the best fan base who knows how to distribute tickets and travel...

You would think Swofford would want Greensboro considering how much it benefits UNC and Duke!

You do realize of course that UVa is closer to Greensboro than Clemson.  VT is much closer.

Blacksburg is 2.5 hours away - 150 miles 81 to 77 to 421 to 40
Charlottesville is 3 hours away - 180 miles 64 to 85
Clemson SC is 3.5 hours away - 220 miles (all interstate 85)

I wouldn't mind having it in DC again, but it felt too small last time. With conference expansion, it'll be even tighter.

NOVAwolf wrote: I wouldn't mind having it in DC again, but it felt too small last time. With conference expansion, it'll be even tighter.

Washington DC in March is dismal.  Cold, cold, cold and if does snow, they are paralyzed.  At least in yankeeland if it snows, they have equipment for that.

You mean we are 16 and a half trillion in debt, and we haven't been able to afford snow plows in DC??  Something wrong with this picture.

I went to the tourney in Charlotte at TWC, been to both venues in atlanta and of course Greensboro, and none of the rest were near as fun as G-Boro.

Whatever.  The Sheraton Koury Convention Center (currently undergoing a $20 million plus renovation) is the largest hotel (# of rooms)  and Convention Center between Washington and Atlanta.   Include in that Proximity Hotel, Grandover Resort, O'Henry Hotel, and 25-30 mid priced options and you have way more than enough hotel rooms. The damn arena only holds  23,500 (more than most basketball arenas).  How many rooms do you need?????  It's not like there are 100's of other events going on in Greensboro during the tournament.  There are only so many tickets.  Why the hell does it matter what school they are distributed to? 

lumberpack3 wrote:

wolfer79 wrote: Because of the Atlantic Coast Conference's increased footprint in the Northeast, the ACC is interested in holding a future men's basketball tournament in New York, an ACC school official told ESPN.

Besides New York, other cities being considered to host the 2016-21 ACC tournaments are Atlanta (Philips Arena), Charlotte, Greensboro, N.C., Tampa, Fla., and Washington D.C.

Four cities -- Miami, Orlando, Pittsburgh and Atlanta (Georgia Dome), who all submitted a bid to host a tournament between 2016-21 -- have been eliminated from contention to host. Despite the Georgia Dome hosting the two highest-attended conference tournaments (the 2001 and '09 ACC tournaments), it was eliminated because of the ACC's preference to place future tournaments in more traditional basketball arenas instead of domes.

The dearth of good hotels in Greensboro has to become an issue now that the league has added Syr, Louisville, Pitt and ND.

gotohellunc wrote: Whatever.  The Sheraton Koury Convention Center (currently undergoing a $20 million plus renovation) is the largest hotel (# of rooms)  and Convention Center between Washington and Atlanta.   Include in that Proximity Hotel, Grandover Resort, O'Henry Hotel, and 25-30 mid priced options and you have way more than enough hotel rooms. The damn arena only holds  23,500 (more than most basketball arenas).  How many rooms do you need?????  It's not like there are 100's of other events going on in Greensboro during the tournament.  There are only so many tickets.  Why the hell does it matter what school they are distributed to? 

lumberpack3 wrote:

wolfer79 wrote: Because of the Atlantic Coast Conference's increased footprint in the Northeast, the ACC is interested in holding a future men's basketball tournament in New York, an ACC school official told ESPN.

Besides New York, other cities being considered to host the 2016-21 ACC tournaments are Atlanta (Philips Arena), Charlotte, Greensboro, N.C., Tampa, Fla., and Washington D.C.

Four cities -- Miami, Orlando, Pittsburgh and Atlanta (Georgia Dome), who all submitted a bid to host a tournament between 2016-21 -- have been eliminated from contention to host. Despite the Georgia Dome hosting the two highest-attended conference tournaments (the 2001 and '09 ACC tournaments), it was eliminated because of the ACC's preference to place future tournaments in more traditional basketball arenas instead of domes.

The dearth of good hotels in Greensboro has to become an issue now that the league has added Syr, Louisville, Pitt and ND.

Greensboro is just a damn mill town.

LOL. No.

lumberpack3 wrote:

gotohellunc wrote: Whatever.  The Sheraton Koury Convention Center (currently undergoing a $20 million plus renovation) is the largest hotel (# of rooms)  and Convention Center between Washington and Atlanta.   Include in that Proximity Hotel, Grandover Resort, O'Henry Hotel, and 25-30 mid priced options and you have way more than enough hotel rooms. The damn arena only holds  23,500 (more than most basketball arenas).  How many rooms do you need?????  It's not like there are 100's of other events going on in Greensboro during the tournament.  There are only so many tickets.  Why the hell does it matter what school they are distributed to? 

lumberpack3 wrote:

wolfer79 wrote: Because of the Atlantic Coast Conference's increased footprint in the Northeast, the ACC is interested in holding a future men's basketball tournament in New York, an ACC school official told ESPN.

Besides New York, other cities being considered to host the 2016-21 ACC tournaments are Atlanta (Philips Arena), Charlotte, Greensboro, N.C., Tampa, Fla., and Washington D.C.

Four cities -- Miami, Orlando, Pittsburgh and Atlanta (Georgia Dome), who all submitted a bid to host a tournament between 2016-21 -- have been eliminated from contention to host. Despite the Georgia Dome hosting the two highest-attended conference tournaments (the 2001 and '09 ACC tournaments), it was eliminated because of the ACC's preference to place future tournaments in more traditional basketball arenas instead of domes.

The dearth of good hotels in Greensboro has to become an issue now that the league has added Syr, Louisville, Pitt and ND.

Greensboro is just a damn mill town.

sure beats the **** outta newark or any place else in joisey

The fact that UVA and VT are closer than Clemson amplifies my point about Greensboro.  I was thinking of the years the tourney was in Charlotte.  

Bottom line....Greensboro is traditionally better, it would be less expensive than NY to attend, and it's makes more sense geographically for the entire ACC, not just Pitt and Syracuse.

KEEP IT IN GREENSBORO!!!!

wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

What is great about it?

I think a 10-year rotation of Greensboro (4x), DC (2x), NYC (2x), Charlotte (1x), and Atlanta (1x) would be an alright plan. I would prefer to keep it in Greensboro, but with the new additions I think Washington and NYC are solid options. I don't really like the idea of Charlotte or Atlanta, but figured they'd have to be appeased. Maybe I've just been to the two cities too much. Not really a big fan of either.

wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

The War of 1812?

Have it in DC. It's neutral ground, now that we got rid of Merlin.

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wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

What is great about it?

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Good to see General Pettigrew's grandson respond to such a scandalous thought.

Ideal 10-year cycle, IMO:

Greensboro (2)
Washington or Florida city (1)
NYC (2) - MSG, Barclays, Prudential
Greensboro (2)
Atlanta or Florida city (1)
NYC (2)

LiveWolvesinUnitards wrote: Have it in DC. It's neutral ground, now that we got rid of Merlin.

okay with me, but nowhere north of mason-dixon line!

I would go.  It would be my first tourney in over a decade.  I love a good long weekend sports venue road trip in a great town, this would definitely qualify.

I'd go if it's in MSG..but then again I live 1hr 15mins away from NYC. They renovated MSG and it's really nice now...

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

Agree 100%.  Traditions are important instead of chasing the latest chance at a buck that will be short lived.  NIT remake.

I think it'd be cool to attend.....but not MSG, I'd rather it be in Brooklyn. That area around the new arena has been revitalized a lot. Much cooler than midtown.

It won't be the same as having in NC, and hotels will be EXTREMELY costly.

+1

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

Most State fans want the tourney to move back to Reynolds.

In Greensboro the ACC Tournament is THE event. In other cities its just not the same.

Having said that the tournament needs to rotate. However, Greensboro should get the tournament more than anywhere else.

I think most of those adamantly oppossed have never visited NYC. It would be a great location and fun trip. Much more interesting than Greensboro. Ideally have it there once every 4-5 years.

DC is also a fun trip. Plus, you can stay in NOVA much cheaper and ride the metro into the city.

The biggest challenge facing the Tournamnet is how to handle expansion. Next year there will be 15 schools involved. I think on-campus play-in games for the lower seeds should be looked at to keep the event manageable.

wrcwolf wrote:

Ideal 10-year cycle, IMO:

Greensboro (2)
Washington or Florida city (1)
NYC (2) - MSG, Barclays, Prudential
Greensboro (2)
Atlanta or Florida city (1)
NYC (2)

I like that rotation generally, but skip Prudential. Beautiful arena, horrible city with poor logistical options. All the decent hotels in Newark are by the airport - nothing really downtown by the arena. And there are very few restaurants/bars near the arena.

Also, need to work Charlotte into the mix. Trade 1 of the GSO dates for Charlotte.

Here's what I would suggest over 10 years:

4 years - NC (3 GSO, 1 CLT)
3 years - northern rotation (NYC/DC/Boston?)
3 years - southern rotation (ATL/FL)

I think it should be in Greensboro every year. Why? Because that will result in the most people attending.

I love the idea of having it in NYC, ATL, or DC, but it's not whats best for the ACC, IMO. Greensboro is the most central location. It's cheaper for fans (esp those with families) to travel to, and easier for fans to travel to.

I sad sounding like one of those old farts, but we've had it in different locations before. It's just not the same. In a down year, you can at least count on a strong contingent of State/UNC/Wake/Duke fans. Might even include some Clemson/UVA/VPI fans in there, plus some causal ACC fans. Attendance will always be at least decent in Greensboro. You can't say that about ATL/DC/NYC. Having it one of those locations sounds great, until you have a Wake/UNC final and none is there to see it.

The hardcore UL and SU fans are going to travel regardless. Keep it in Greensboro.

Edit: with all that said, if its truly whats better for the ACC, then I'd be all for it. Just don't want empty arenas. Also, if ESPN will pay us more, that'd be a plus.

It will all sound the same on my transistor radio.

lumberpack3 wrote: The Purdential Center in Newark is good place in the NY area.  Yeah, yeah I know what some will say, but it was a great place for the Rolling Stones back in December and you are not tied into being in Manhattan.

Never heard of the Purduntial Center, but it sounds nice.