Get dropped by Penn State late, pick up Oregon instead. Good work by Littlepage. Home-and-home with 2013 game in Charlottesville. UVa will play Oregon in '13, UCLA in '14 and '15, Oregon in '16 and Stanford in '17 and '18.

The Ducks punt a game at Nevada to accommodate the UVa game. Hope they make that up in the future.

www2.registerguard.com/cms/ind...da-in-the-fall/

Be great to see another ACC team get RUTS'ed.

UVA actually dropped Penn State or pushed the game back to another yr.  That is still TBD, but UVA wanted the change.

Good for them.  I respect folks who schedule key OOC games.

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--- RJWolfpack wrote:

UVA actually dropped Penn State or pushed the game back to another yr.  That is still TBD, but UVA wanted the change.

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Possibly, but not how it's being reported. From the Altoona Mirror:

www.altoonamirror.com/page/con...VA.html?nav=751

Wish we would schedule like this.

That series against USC a few years ago really helped UVa.

UVa has no business scheduling a team like that though they do have a much tougher time selling tickets than we do. In college football, scheduling teams that are going to slaughter you doesn't help build a program.

I think you meant:

UVa adds 0-1 to 2013 schedule

Oregon will hang 60+ on UVA.

Mr OPACK wrote: That series against USC a few years ago really helped UVa.

UVa has no business scheduling a team like that though they do have a much tougher time selling tickets than we do. In college football, scheduling teams that are going to slaughter you doesn't help build a program.

Exactly.  I for one am in favor of the K State model.  Especially if you have no football tradition or history.

Mr OPACK wrote: That series against USC a few years ago really helped UVa.

UVa has no business scheduling a team like that though they do have a much tougher time selling tickets than we do. In college football, scheduling teams that are going to slaughter you doesn't help build a program.

for some reason, folks can't comprehend this. half the folks on this board want to play oklahoma, florida, michigan and texas ooc. then they'll ***** when we are 0-4. for teams like us and uva, you need 4 ooc gimmes, imo. win 8-10 games for 10 straight years and then start sprinkling in some tough ooc opponents. did folks forget the bunting era at unc...reference that for what quality ooc opponents do for avg. programs.

RJWolfpack wrote: UVA actually dropped Penn State or pushed the game back to another yr.  That is still TBD, but UVA wanted the change.

I follow both message boards...UVa & PSU.  All indications point to PSU backing out of this game for 2013.  I realize that it doesn't make sense...especially since PSU already played at UVa. 

About two to three weeks ago there were rumors that PSU would replace UVa with Rhode Island.  There was an article from a Providence newspaper to that effect.  More recent information suggests that PSU chose last week to replace UVa with Central Florida.  That is when UVa went looking for a replacement for the 2013 schedule and happened upon Oregon.

abcfan2005 wrote: Wish we would schedule like this.

my thoughts exactly.

Mr OPACK wrote: That series against USC a few years ago really helped UVa.

UVa has no business scheduling a team like that though they do have a much tougher time selling tickets than we do. In college football, scheduling teams that are going to slaughter you doesn't help build a program.

If memory serves, USC destroyed UVA in Charlottesville (Sanchez' "senior" season at USC), but Virginia took them to wire in LA the following year.  They were a lot more competitive in that second game than you're protraying.

That being said, Oregon's program is on another level right now and may well stomp the Hoos into the ground.

I was told by someone in ICA (Penn State Athletics) that Penn State was having to scramble because UVA wanted game moved to a future season.  I am wondering if it started with UVA bringing that up, Penn State said no and then just decided to drop UVA outright?  I will have to inquire about more information because I am really curious now.  At this point does not really matter, but glad Penn State was able to get UCF instead of RI.

HoosAndDeacs wrote:

RJWolfpack wrote: UVA actually dropped Penn State or pushed the game back to another yr.  That is still TBD, but UVA wanted the change.

I follow both message boards...UVa & PSU.  All indications point to PSU backing out of this game for 2013.  I realize that it doesn't make sense...especially since PSU already played at UVa. 

About two to three weeks ago there were rumors that PSU would replace UVa with Rhode Island.  There was an article from a Providence newspaper to that effect.  More recent information suggests that PSU chose last week to replace UVa with Central Florida.  That is when UVa went looking for a replacement for the 2013 schedule and happened upon Oregon.

RJWolfpack wrote: I was told by someone in ICA (Penn State Athletics) that Penn State was having to scramble because UVA wanted game moved to a future season.  I am wondering if it started with UVA bringing that up, Penn State said no and then just decided to drop UVA outright?  I will have to inquire about more information because I am really curious now.  At this point does not really matter, but glad Penn State was able to get UCF instead of RI.

HoosAndDeacs wrote:

RJWolfpack wrote: UVA actually dropped Penn State or pushed the game back to another yr.  That is still TBD, but UVA wanted the change.

I follow both message boards...UVa & PSU.  All indications point to PSU backing out of this game for 2013.  I realize that it doesn't make sense...especially since PSU already played at UVa. 

About two to three weeks ago there were rumors that PSU would replace UVa with Rhode Island.  There was an article from a Providence newspaper to that effect.  More recent information suggests that PSU chose last week to replace UVa with Central Florida.  That is when UVa went looking for a replacement for the 2013 schedule and happened upon Oregon.

If you find out more info, please post it here.  I really want to know who is responsible.  Thanks!

Oregon is going to thrash them, twice.

Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

I'm sure TOB and Tenuta will have a solid gameplan for the Ducks. Hoo fans shouldn't be worried.

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

1-0 > 0-1


If our program was on a level to compete with that type of talent, then I am all for scheduling tougher than we do now.  However, after getting dusted by a low level SEC team (Tenn) and a mid level at best SEC team (Vandy), it should be clear that we are far from having to talent to complete with the high major programs in other leagues.  It would be of no benefit to schedule a guaranteed loss at this juncture.

Hopefully Coach D can turn us in to a team capable of competing with these elite teams in the future.  But reality is reality.

here is answer

http://www.gopsusports.com/spo.../012813aab.html

Penn State spin?

From UVa's release, this is an interesting angle:

"We initiated a conversation with Oregon about a potential game in 2017 in Europe," said Virginia Executive Associate Athletics Director Jon Oliver.

www.virginiasports.com/sports/.../012813aae.html

My wife has wanted to see the Ducks play for years.(She likes the signs they hold up on the sideline) Might have to make the road trip.

Possible, but the PSU release is what I was told couple of weeks ago.

wrcwolf wrote: Penn State spin?

From UVa's release, this is an interesting angle:

"We initiated a conversation with Oregon about a potential game in 2017 in Europe," said Virginia Executive Associate Athletics Director Jon Oliver.

www.virginiasports.com/sports/.../012813aae.html

I was wondering how long it would take before someone defended our OCC FB scheduling brain trust.

wlfpck4life wrote:

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

1-0 > 0-1


If our program was on a level to compete with that type of talent, then I am all for scheduling tougher than we do now.  However, after getting dusted by a low level SEC team (Tenn) and a mid level at best SEC team (Vandy), it should be clear that we are far from having to talent to complete with the high major programs in other leagues.  It would be of no benefit to schedule a guaranteed loss at this juncture.

Hopefully Coach D can turn us in to a team capable of competing with these elite teams in the future.  But reality is reality.

wlfpck4life wrote:

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

1-0 > 0-1


If our program was on a level to compete with that type of talent, then I am all for scheduling tougher than we do now.  However, after getting dusted by a low level SEC team (Tenn) and a mid level at best SEC team (Vandy), it should be clear that we are far from having to talent to complete with the high major programs in other leagues.  It would be of no benefit to schedule a guaranteed loss at this juncture.

Hopefully Coach D can turn us in to a team capable of competing with these elite teams in the future.  But reality is reality.

not sure why its so difficult for so many to grasp. we need wins. for a decade. not blowouts or moral victories against the nation's elite.

I honestly do not think it is asking too much to schedule at least one top 25 OCC opponent each year. I realize we need wins, but I personally get tired of our weak OCC schedule. I go to every OCC away game when we play a non cupcake team, but traveling to USA or Central Michigan is not high on my list of places I really want to travel to even to watch a Pack FB game.

cmast wrote:

wlfpck4life wrote:

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

1-0 > 0-1


If our program was on a level to compete with that type of talent, then I am all for scheduling tougher than we do now.  However, after getting dusted by a low level SEC team (Tenn) and a mid level at best SEC team (Vandy), it should be clear that we are far from having to talent to complete with the high major programs in other leagues.  It would be of no benefit to schedule a guaranteed loss at this juncture.

Hopefully Coach D can turn us in to a team capable of competing with these elite teams in the future.  But reality is reality.

not sure why its so difficult for so many to grasp. we need wins. for a decade. not blowouts or moral victories against the nation's elite.

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

As a UVa season ticket holder, to me - it's about entertainment dollar value and good times with friends. We have on the schedule for '13 a BYU, Oregon start to the season. Add a good Ball St team visiting along with Clemson and the Hokies at home - I'm happy to plunk down the money for season tickets and the VAF donation.

Biltmorewolf wrote:

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

As a UVa season ticket holder, to me - it's about entertainment dollar value and good times with friends. We have on the schedule for '13 a BYU, Oregon start to the season. Add a good Ball St team visiting along with Clemson and the Hokies at home - I'm happy to plunk down the money for season tickets and the VAF donation.

IIRC there is an old policy at State that only one sports team can play west of the Mississippii in any given year.  I've never read that, but I've heard it often.  What you don't want to do is play a team in the Rockies before a league game or you want it sandwiched between chumps if you are State.  Altitude on top of travel for BYU, Utah, Colorado, Air Force or Colorado State is worth avoiding. 

I'd love to see State play on the west coast at least once every four years and in the State of Texas at least once every four years.  That would be good exposure.  Washington State, Oregon State, UCLA, Houston, TCU and of course Texas would make a nice rotation.

cmast wrote:

wlfpck4life wrote:

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

1-0 > 0-1


If our program was on a level to compete with that type of talent, then I am all for scheduling tougher than we do now.  However, after getting dusted by a low level SEC team (Tenn) and a mid level at best SEC team (Vandy), it should be clear that we are far from having to talent to complete with the high major programs in other leagues.  It would be of no benefit to schedule a guaranteed loss at this juncture.

Hopefully Coach D can turn us in to a team capable of competing with these elite teams in the future.  But reality is reality.

not sure why its so difficult for so many to grasp. we need wins. for a decade. not blowouts or moral victories against the nation's elite.

Why do people have to speak in extremes to make a point. I've never seen anyone on this board say that we need to schedule a home and home with Alabama or Oregon to improve our schedule. There are 20-30 other teams that we could schedule that would make an interesting OOC opponent for fans and SOS. Teams like TCU, Wisconsin, BYU or Cincinnati would make great OOC opponents without us being outmatched.

These games help out recruiting tremendously. Kids want to play in big games on the highest stage. Heck, one of the things Priester mentioned about why he chose Clemson was the fact they were playing UGA and SoCar this year. It matters. No kid dreams of playing South Alabama or Central Michigan. Not saying you can't play the smaller schools at all, but we should have at least one OOC game a year against an SEC/BIG10/PAC12 school.

Some of y'all have such a defeatist mentality. Hope our coach isn't as scared to play someone.

^winning is the best recruiting tool, imo. and i don't think folks would be happy with one sec/big10/pac12 school per year. if we play iowa state this year, kentucky next year, and indiana the year after. that excite anyone? we've played tenn, scar x 2, and cinci recently. people think our schedule was awesome? people want name brand teams and those are, for the most part, teams that are going to kick our teeth in right now.

UVa now adds a home-and-home with Boise St in 2015 (at UVa) and 2017 (Blue turf). In 2015, the Cavs will play Boise and UCLA OOC. In 2017, they get Boise and Stanford OOC.

abcfan2005 wrote: Wish we would schedule like this, AND WIN THOSE GAMES

FTFY

Quick thoughts:
- Good for UVA. There's nothing but upside for them in that game. Heck, people said they'd get slaughtered when they had Penn State on the schedule, and look what happened this year.
- At one point (and may still) they had Auburn coming up in the preseason kick off. I said before last seasons that Chiznik wouldn't even make it to that game.
- It is obvious that TOB hasn't been consulted on scheduling.
- Is loading up on the PAC12 teams a harbinger of things to come with respect to a conference change to the Big 10? The Big 10 and Pac 12 have played a lot of intersectional games over the years.
- Chip Kelly is gone from Oregon.  Who knows how the product will be moving forward, or whether the talent level will be as good?  
- Impressive that UVA got Oregon to go on the road first.  That typically works the other way around with a buy out on the back end.  I'd argue that Oregon will be better in the near future than later, but still.  I suspect that's why they agreed to do it.  They foresee 2-0 as opposed to 1-1.

I don't like a weak OOC schedule, but this year might be one, that we are glad we do. I think it is better than most people think,! I'm hoping for a decent record, possibly 7 and 5, and maybe a bowl game. Everyone knows we don't have top 40 talent. Hell, we're rated 12th out of 14 ACC teams. I would love for this team, to exceed expectations, and start recruiting better. QB play will be critical, and I really don't know where we will be. Coach DD, will surely have challenges this year, but right now, I have faith, that he and the team will do well. Just want him to set some cornerstones this year. Looking forward to it, no matter what.

I'll gladly go to Autzen to see them take down the Ducks.

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Quick thoughts:
- Good for UVA. There's nothing but upside for them in that game. Heck, people said they'd get slaughtered when they had Penn State on the schedule, and look what happened this year.
- At one point (and may still) they had Auburn coming up in the preseason kick off. I said before last seasons that Chiznik wouldn't even make it to that game.
- It is obvious that TOB hasn't been consulted on scheduling.
- Is loading up on the PAC12 teams a harbinger of things to come with respect to a conference change to the Big 10? The Big 10 and Pac 12 have played a lot of intersectional games over the years.
- Chip Kelly is gone from Oregon.  Who knows how the product will be moving forward, or whether the talent level will be as good?  
- Impressive that UVA got Oregon to go on the road first.  That typically works the other way around with a buy out on the back end.  I'd argue that Oregon will be better in the near future than later, but still.  I suspect that's why they agreed to do it.  They foresee 2-0 as opposed to 1-1.

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"- Is loading up on the PAC12 teams a harbinger of things to come with respect to a conference change to the Big 10? The Big 10 and Pac 12 have played a lot of intersectional games over the years."

Nah. UVa's scheduling guy has a past history in the Pac-12 according to Dave Teel. That's why you're seeing them schedule Western schools.

UVa will become the first BCS AQ school to travel to Boise outside of the states of Oregon and Washington. Michigan State has a game planned on the "blue turf" in 2022.

abcfan2005 wrote: Wish we would schedule like this.

Biltmorewolf wrote:

justwufn1 wrote: Good for VA. Our OCC scheduling has been terrible. Of course some on the board would say it is much better to beat "The Sisters of Poor" than get beat by someone like the Ducks. Hopefully DD and Yow will work to elevate the quality of our future OCC opponents.

As a UVa season ticket holder, to me - it's about entertainment dollar value and good times with friends. We have on the schedule for '13 a BYU, Oregon start to the season. Add a good Ball St team visiting along with Clemson and the Hokies at home - I'm happy to plunk down the money for season tickets and the VAF donation.

This.

It was one thing to play the dregs of FBS and FCS when State would put up 45-50 points on the board and the games were over by halftime.  Not to mention, no TV and the games were over in less than three hours.  You'd get to see the second and third team guys making plays. 

Now, we have Liberty come in here and beat the tar out of State on the line of scrimmage.  Thanks to some bad turnovers and big plays, that score looks one-sided, and it wasn't.  It's not a lot of fun to see what turned out to be a pretty poor Liberty team kick the snot out of State's linemen.  Not a lot of fun to watch a South Alabama give the Wolfpack a contest.  So, we get a win that counts toward the annual crappy bowl trip.  Big Deal.  Would much rather see a BCS team in a similar 7-5 position every year instead of a war of attrition with Richmond.