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Posted: 2/6/2013 1:28 PM
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dunlow66 wrote:
njrosinski87 wrote:Just moved here! I live in Newport News. Kecoughtan is pretty strong. A guy I work with is the father of another player on Kecoughtan and he says Rodney is like another son. Looking forward to heading out there with him and watching a good basketball game. He said the gym will fill up so get there early if you were looking to attend! Are you from the area? NE North Carolina, about an hour away but follow tidewater and peninsula sports closely.
Hampton with the big win tonight 63-40, hope to have Barber's stats soon. This was a big win for Hampton in their quest to repeat as top Va. public school classification State Champions. Barber finished with 16 points "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 2/6/2013 1:45 PM
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2 of our fresmen phenoms committed back to back turnovers to lose this last one. Talent and drive are important but you can't overlook experience and development. We're gonna need some patience no matter how good these next couple classes are.
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From what I have seen, the coaches are going after guys who can cut it in class, have some class out in public, and that don't like losing.
If we had a team full of guys who want to win and hate losing like our 3 FR, we would have a team that wins Titles.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:11 PM
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The comment was about what type of guys the coaches are going after.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 2:24 PM
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Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:56 PM
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TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. Clark is a guy we should offer, I don't give a **** about his stars. Reading up on this kid, hearing how well he does, we'll be crazy not to get him. |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:06 PM
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TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. Gottfried recruited and signed the Awful Waffle (AKA the Bricking Dutchman) Thomas De Thaey. He was a 2*. _____________________
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:12 PM
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That was a quick move when he first gott here. If he had had a chance to fully vet him, may have turned out different.
"we hardly ever saw granddad around here, he only came to town about twice a year"
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:23 PM
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chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. Gottfried recruited and signed the Awful Waffle (AKA the Bricking Dutchman) Thomas De Thaey.
He was a 2*. My bad - I just looked at 2012/2013; forgot about him offering TDT. I think Gott was put in the position of having to take a warm body when he first got here. With his first two classes that were really all his - he hasn't had to reach too low. I have to back Gott based on what he's been able to pull in so far - can't really question him if he doesn't offer Clark based on what he's done recruit wise. Gott's effectively recruiting with the big boys. |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:33 PM
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TexasWolfpack wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. Gottfried recruited and signed the Awful Waffle (AKA the Bricking Dutchman) Thomas De Thaey.
He was a 2*. My bad - I just looked at 2012/2013; forgot about him offering TDT. I think Gott was put in the position of having to take a warm body when he first got here. With his first two classes that were really all his - he hasn't had to reach too low.
I have to back Gott based on what he's been able to pull in so far - can't really question him if he doesn't offer Clark based on what he's done recruit wise. Gott's effectively recruiting with the big boys. True. I don't think anyone is questioning Gott's recruiting prowess. It remains to be seen whether he has the coaching skills to compete with the big boys. _____________________
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:41 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- dunlow66 wrote: tintinisahottie wrote: WHY DIDN'T HE OFFER TERRY HENDERSON OVER PURVIS!!!???? STARS! I know you guys like to kid Bry about Henderson , but interesting stats on the kid Henderson 7.6 ppg 2.8 rpg 1.0 apg 19.9 minutes a game Purvis----- 9.8 ppg 2.7 rpb 1.7 apg 29.4 minutes a game Purvis is actually shooting better from 3 at .419 Henderson is at .357 I prefer Rodney for sure, but you might want to reconsider acting like Henderson is so bad. His stats are not very different from Purvis --------------------------------------------- Lol, WVU is 11-11. Purvis would be the main option there and have much more ppg. It's not even a comparison as to who is the better player |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:42 PM
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The cupboard was pretty well stocked for Gott so he had to find a few backups. Sidney had to take scraps for several years when he first came and it bit him badly but he had no recruiting base when he came.
I believe Bobby Lutz recruited TDT just like Monte recruited Vandenburg(Ithink that is correct).
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:49 PM
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He just beat two blues in his second season. He can recruit, stabilize, and motivate the players he has so he can compete. Can he coach on a high level consistantly and make the changes needed to turn a game around thats going in the crapper quickly...hmmmm? only about a dozen or so coaches can do that today.
"we hardly ever saw granddad around here, he only came to town about twice a year"
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:55 PM
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chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. Gottfried recruited and signed the Awful Waffle (AKA the Bricking Dutchman) Thomas De Thaey.
He was a 2*. My bad - I just looked at 2012/2013; forgot about him offering TDT. I think Gott was put in the position of having to take a warm body when he first got here. With his first two classes that were really all his - he hasn't had to reach too low.
I have to back Gott based on what he's been able to pull in so far - can't really question him if he doesn't offer Clark based on what he's done recruit wise. Gott's effectively recruiting with the big boys. True. I don't think anyone is questioning Gott's recruiting prowess. It remains to be seen whether he has the coaching skills to compete with the big boys. I think Gott actually over-achieved last year; this year under achieving but still a lot of basketball left and can hopefully get the team peaking at tournament time which is what's important. BTW - forgot about the Martin's for the 2014 class when I was checking Gott's recruits. We are in the mix for a bunch of top 2014 players. Anyone have an idea who we have the best shot at for 2014 to come in w/the Martins? |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:59 PM
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iirc Wake basically discovered TdT and then Maryland and State jumped in and we won
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:13 PM
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tintinisahottie wrote:
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tintinisahottie wrote: WHY DIDN'T HE OFFER TERRY HENDERSON OVER PURVIS!!!???? STARS! I know you guys like to kid Bry about Henderson , but interesting stats on the kid
Henderson 7.6 ppg 2.8 rpg 1.0 apg 19.9 minutes a game
Purvis----- 9.8 ppg 2.7 rpb 1.7 apg 29.4 minutes a game
Purvis is actually shooting better from 3 at .419
Henderson is at .357
I prefer Rodney for sure, but you might want to reconsider acting like Henderson is so bad. His stats are not very different from Purvis
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Lol, WVU is 11-11. Purvis would be the main option there and have much more ppg. It's not even a comparison as to who is the better player And I agree Purvis is better, my thought on the subject was that Henderson is not a bad freshman, Of course I would want Purvis over Henderson. As for Gary Clark, I think he will be a four star player before all is said and done, lot of time for him to move up in the rankings. I know this much, he is playing like a four star kid right now at Clayton. Washington was not a four star in his junior season either, he only moved up that charts later and is a Fifth year senior, two years older than Clark. "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:27 PM
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Clark sounds like he's tearing it up, based on the numbers. I wonder if maybe our staff told the Martins that they would be our only 2014 recruits at that position (SF)? Just a theory. Or maybe Clark's stats don't tell the whole story. Lots of possibilities.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:31 PM
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--- tintinisahottie wrote:
iirc Wake basically discovered TdT and then Maryland and State jumped in and we won
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What a great discovery.
SABOTAGE!!!
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:27 PM
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LetsGoState wrote:
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iirc Wake basically discovered TdT and then Maryland and State jumped in and we won
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What a great discovery. Funny how many posters on here were claiming that TdT would break out this season. I was much more disappointed that Tyler Harris left. He will be very solid as an upperclassman. Wish Gott could've held onto him, but I understand his dad was the issue. _____________________
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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:04 PM
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Tangman wrote:
KarNCSU wrote:
Packster wrote: Be nice to hear something from the '14 class. I want Randle in '13 and another big man (transfer, Sidy, etc.)
I'd love to land one of Grayson Allen, D'Angelo Russell or Ahmed Hill and then land Lyle. We could definitely use two more big men in that class as well. I think State has a great chance with Ahmed Hill. Also, a guard from 2014 (i think) came to the UNC game. Anyone know his name? You are probably thinking of either PJ Dozier or Eric Davis. Both attended the game and are 2015s. I was talking about the one from Michigan. I think that's Eric Davis? Would be awesome if we can pry him from either UM or Mich St |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:36 PM
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Honestly, we need to recruit some lesser players that value playing time more than your some of your stars.... Pushes the starters and gets you the roll players. chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:
chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. Gottfried recruited and signed the Awful Waffle (AKA the Bricking Dutchman) Thomas De Thaey.
He was a 2*. My bad - I just looked at 2012/2013; forgot about him offering TDT. I think Gott was put in the position of having to take a warm body when he first got here. With his first two classes that were really all his - he hasn't had to reach too low.
I have to back Gott based on what he's been able to pull in so far - can't really question him if he doesn't offer Clark based on what he's done recruit wise. Gott's effectively recruiting with the big boys. True. I don't think anyone is questioning Gott's recruiting prowess. It remains to be seen whether he has the coaching skills to compete with the big boys. |
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Posted: 2/6/2013 10:48 PM
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Huge win tonight for the Clayton Comets over Garner in a revenge game
Garner came in ranked #7 in the State 4A poll, Clayton ranked # 8
Gary Clark stats 21 points, 19 rebounds, 11 blocks
Terrific effort in a huge conference rivalry game against a ranked opponent. The kid is playing some serious ball in Clayton. Heard there was a representative from the CP3 AAU team in attendance as well, not confirmed.
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
Last edited 2/7/2013 1:01 AM by dunlow66
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:21 AM
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Btw, the completely random little star backlash yesterday was hilarious considering the most criticized member of the team by some distance is the only 3 star, Scott Wood
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:51 AM
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I would not promise a recruit that I would not recruit his position, a 6'6" kid can play from the 2 to the 4 really. You could have clark and both twins on the floor at the time. I fact that might be the best option. Hard to tell. But tell a 16 yo, "hey with ya'll we stop recuiting the 3 position all together"...nah.
With Randle would you do it, he might here 8 months, you cannot do that at all.
"we hardly ever saw granddad around here, he only came to town about twice a year"
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Posted: 2/7/2013 12:29 PM
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Villanova has offered F Tyrek Coger of Word of God
Jason Jordon: Tentative official to Nova set for Feb 29? (trying to be funny I guess, no 29th of Feb this year)
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 2/7/2013 12:34 PM
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He should take that and run with it big time!
"we hardly ever saw granddad around here, he only came to town about twice a year"
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Posted: 2/7/2013 12:37 PM
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Gary Clark and Clayton highlights from the game with Garner last night. http://www.highschoolot.com/me...7/#/vid12076217 "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:02 PM
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PackDesigner03 wrote:
2 of our fresmen phenoms committed back to back turnovers to lose this last one. Talent and drive are important but you can't overlook experience and development. We're gonna need some patience no matter how good these next couple classes are.
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From what I have seen, the coaches are going after guys who can cut it in class, have some class out in public, and that don't like losing.
If we had a team full of guys who want to win and hate losing like our 3 FR, we would have a team that wins Titles.
--------------------------------------------- Critical turnovers. That said we aren't in the game without their 29 combined points.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:07 PM
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Looks like Gary Clark(2014) ranks about the same as Sidy Djitte(2013) 2014 Future150 Updated Rankings: #146 Johnnie Vassar, #145 Gary Clark, #144 Kendall Crute, #143 Rashard Figures
Future150 2013 Updated Rankings: #136 Sidy Mohamed Djitte of Northwood Temple Academy. "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:00 PM
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Hard to tell just on highlights, but I liked what I saw with Clark in last night's game. Looks likes he passes well, has a pretty good handle, and has that never ending motor. I hope we offer because he wants to be here. dunlow66 wrote: Gary Clark and Clayton highlights from the game with Garner last night.
http://www.highschoolot.com/me...7/#/vid12076217 BEING AN N C STATE FAN BUILDS GREAT CHARACTER
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:18 PM
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DrummerboyWolf wrote: Hard to tell just on highlights, but I liked what I saw with Clark in last night's game. Looks likes he passes well, has a pretty good handle, and has that never ending motor. I hope we offer because he wants to be here.
dunlow66 wrote: Gary Clark and Clayton highlights from the game with Garner last night.
http://www.highschoolot.com/me...7/#/vid12076217 High school basketball in NC at the 4A level, top to bottom, is as good a public school basketball as there is in the entire country. If you can put up the numbers Clark is, playing against 4A competition, you can play in the ACC, I don't care what the "experts" say. I liked what I saw in this video...more so than in those mix-tape highlight videos...I saw a kid that hustles, handles the ball well, quick leaper, good passer, and nice shooting form. Reminds me of Josh Howard. He turned out okay. If I was Gott, this kid would be getting a committable offer. |
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:21 PM
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He probably wants to see him against AAU competition. That will be crazy. Gott shoots high and is winning a lot of them over. I gott no complaints. Can't believe their isn't back room communication going on there with Clarks ppl about who is involved and interested.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:21 PM
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Thanks for the video link Dunlow. Clark also looks like he has great timing on blocking shots, although lacking the height to play down low. However, a lot to like about this kid. I also noticed that Djitte is now a 3 star. Wasn't he a 2 star when we first offered him?
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:23 PM
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How many scholarships are available for 2014 class given that 2 are taken by the Martin twins?
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:47 PM
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TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. If he does't sign some with less than four stars, we'll always have a short bench. Rivals, for example, has a total of 113 four and five star recruits. Not all of those are going to eligible in the ACC, and a few may turn pro before college. Given that small pool, there will just be a few schools which can stock up with the top guys, and NC State is not one of those. |
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:52 PM
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Is Clark Greg Buckner-esque?
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:55 PM
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Engineer65 wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. If he does't sign some with less than four stars, we'll always have a short bench. Rivals, for example, has a total of 113 four and five star recruits. Not all of those are going to eligible in the ACC, and a few may turn pro before college. Given that small pool, there will just be a few schools which can stock up with the top guys, and NC State is not one of those. I'm not quite so sure about this; Gott hasn't been here that long and thus far has an incredible track record in recruiting. Since taking over, he might actually be the 2nd best recruiter so far; granted Calipari is in a league by himself - I'm not sure if any other coach has done better than Gott. |
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:57 PM
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That might be an apt description. Really hard to tell just by looking at those highlights, but you might have something there. I would be totally in if he could play like Greg Buckner. Not a flashy guy but very, very solid. Trevor Booker was a little more stocky, but he's another guy you might could compare him with. Nothing wrong with those guys who work hard and rebound... we got one right now and I would not trade him for anybody.  packnplay wrote: Is Clark Greg Buckner-esque? BEING AN N C STATE FAN BUILDS GREAT CHARACTER
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:58 PM
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If he locks up Randle, you would have a good argument... TexasWolfpack wrote:
Engineer65 wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote: Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. If he does't sign some with less than four stars, we'll always have a short bench. Rivals, for example, has a total of 113 four and five star recruits. Not all of those are going to eligible in the ACC, and a few may turn pro before college. Given that small pool, there will just be a few schools which can stock up with the top guys, and NC State is not one of those. I'm not quite so sure about this; Gott hasn't been here that long and thus far has an incredible track record in recruiting. Since taking over, he might actually be the 2nd best recruiter so far; granted Calipari is in a league by himself - I'm not sure if any other coach has done better than Gott. |
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:14 PM
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TexasWolfpack wrote:
Engineer65 wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. If he does't sign some with less than four stars, we'll always have a short bench. Rivals, for example, has a total of 113 four and five star recruits. Not all of those are going to eligible in the ACC, and a few may turn pro before college. Given that small pool, there will just be a few schools which can stock up with the top guys, and NC State is not one of those. I'm not quite so sure about this; Gott hasn't been here that long and thus far has an incredible track record in recruiting. Since taking over, he might actually be the 2nd best recruiter so far; granted Calipari is in a league by himself - I'm not sure if any other coach has done better than Gott. Crean and K have brought in more talent than Gott since he's been here. But yeah, he has recruited very well. _____________________
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:09 PM
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chargerbomb wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:
Engineer65 wrote:
TexasWolfpack wrote:Based on Gott's short time here - I don't anticipate him offering much 3* or less talent. The only recruit who could even be considered a borderline 4* recruit is Washington - who I really like. Seems like a relatively low 4* is Gott's version of taking a flyer on someone. If he does't sign some with less than four stars, we'll always have a short bench. Rivals, for example, has a total of 113 four and five star recruits. Not all of those are going to eligible in the ACC, and a few may turn pro before college. Given that small pool, there will just be a few schools which can stock up with the top guys, and NC State is not one of those. I'm not quite so sure about this; Gott hasn't been here that long and thus far has an incredible track record in recruiting. Since taking over, he might actually be the 2nd best recruiter so far; granted Calipari is in a league by himself - I'm not sure if any other coach has done better than Gott. Crean and K have brought in more talent than Gott since he's been here.
But yeah, he has recruited very well. I'm not sure how long Crean has been at IU but we've averaged more stars for 2012, 2013, and 2014 than Indiana. I'll give you K though. |
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