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Re: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:12 AM
Re: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
Richard Howell= Wes Unseld, with the ability to score.
That's good company!
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:22 AM
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Wes Unseld played 3 years at Louisville. 82 games, averaged 20.6 ppg, and 18.9 rebounds!! 2 time All-American. 6' 7" 245 lbs. at that time. Got a bit heavier in the pros, but he certainly had the ability to score. Best chest pass I have ever seen. Comparing Howell to Unseld, is quite a lofty compliment, but yeah, same type of player.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 11:25 AM
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SpringTraining wrote: Richard Howell= Wes Unseld, with the ability to score.
That's good company!  it would be GREAT company if it was even remotely close to accurate. wes unseld averaged 20 ppg and 19 rpg during his career at louisville. unseld also went on to become an nba hall of famer. howell is awesome, but he is nowhere near the calibre of player wes unseld was  INTERNET CHAMPION OF THE WORLD |
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Posted: 1/29/2013 1:23 PM
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StAugieDoggie wrote:
SpringTraining wrote: Richard Howell= Wes Unseld, with the ability to score.
That's good company!
it would be GREAT company if it was even remotely close to accurate. wes unseld averaged 20 ppg and 19 rpg during his career at louisville. unseld also went on to become an nba hall of famer.
howell is awesome, but he is nowhere near the calibre of player wes unseld was I love Richard to death and he does work his tail off, but he will have to go to be at the same level Unseld was. I read in (I think) Sports Illustrated that Unseld could throw the ball off of one backboard, go up and get the rebound, turn while in the air and hit the other backboard with a pass. He was a great rebounder and may have had the best outlet pass ever. BEING AN N C STATE FAN BUILDS GREAT CHARACTER
Last edited 1/29/2013 2:24 PM by DrummerboyWolf
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:04 PM
RE: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
11 vs Virginia
907 career - #6 all time
#5 John Richter=Center for Everett Case, 936 career rebounds
edit: Howell's 9th double figure rebound game in a row, most since Burleson had 10 in 1972-73
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 1/29/2013 10:27 PM by wolfer79
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:06 PM
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At this rate, he should pass Richter at Clemson.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 6:11 PM
RE: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
Howell
8 rebounds vs Miami
915 career #6 all time
#5 John Richter=Center for Everett Case, 936 career rebounds
ends Howell's 9th double figure rebound game in a row, most since Burleson had 10 in 1972-73
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/2/2013 8:35 PM
Re: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
if he would have gotten 916 at the end of the game we win
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Posted: 2/7/2013 9:00 AM
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Back to the top for the game @Jersey
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:10 PM
RE: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
Howell
9 rebounds vs Duke
924 career #6 all time
#5 John Richter=Center for Everett Case, 936 career rebounds
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/10/2013 12:16 PM
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Bump for the trip to TigerTown...
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Posted: 2/10/2013 3:16 PM
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11 boards for Big Rich today. 935 Career boards. One behind Richter for #5.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:34 AM
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fwiw
after Howell passes Richter
#4 Bobby Speight 1,057
#3 Mel Thompson 1,063
#2Tommy Burleson 1,066
#1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:38 AM
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According to Ken Pom, Howell is 24th Nationally in offensive rebounding rate and 68th in defensive rebounding rate. Additionally, according to Ken Pom Howell is better in every category but drawing fouls when compared to CJL.
Does anybody have any idea on Howell's pace adjusted rebounds versus the other players on this list? I would argue that Burleson and Shavlik saw many more possessions per game than Howell.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:40 AM
RE: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
wolfer79 wrote: fwiw
after Howell passes Richter
#4 Bobby Speight 1,057
#3 Mel Thompson 1,063
#2Tommy Burleson 1,066
#1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598 So - at his current pace we need to make the ACC Tourney final and at least the sweet 16. GO PACK!!! BEAT VaTech!!!
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:45 AM
RE: Richard Howell Rebound Watch-#6 all time
fortheloveofsports wrote:
Does anybody have any idea on Howell's pace adjusted rebounds versus the other players on this list? I would argue that Burleson and Shavlik saw many more possessions per game than Howell. media guide, yearly stats page 98-99 I thought I had a link to all-time box scores, but cannot find it let us know what you find out
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:53 AM
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12 games at 11 boards/game will do it.. so with 7 games left we'd need some combination of 5 postseason games.. at that level out output... good luck Rich!
If you can't spot the idiot in your office, you are the idiot in your office - SlackZac
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:25 AM
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Hey guys I did a very quick analysis of Howell and his rebounds. Due to my inability to mine an enormous of data quickly I did a rough analysis. | Year | Total Mins | Mins/game | % of Game | Total Rebs | Reb/ min | Off Reb | Def Reb | Off Reb/ Opportunity | | 2009-2010 | 408 | 13.6 | 0.34 | 137 | 0.336 | 42 | 95 | 0.110491424 | | 2010-2011 | 547 | 18.2 | 0.46 | 196 | 0.358 | 84 | 112 | 0.181173096 | | 2011-2012 | 999 | 27.0 | 0.68 | 342 | 0.342 | 135 | 207 | 0.172860847 | | 2012-2013 | 744 | 31.0 | 0.78 | 260 | 0.349 | 94 | 166 | 0.176550688 | Couple things jump out at me really quickly. 1) Howell has pretty much rebounded at the same rate since a freshman. 2) Howell's ability to collect offensive rebounds is pretty exceptional. He is collecting an offensive rebound on 17.5% of his opportunities. The column Off Reb/ Opportunity means "offensive rebounds per opportunity to collect an offensive rebound." The formula is as follows. Off Rebounds _
( NC State FGA - NC State FGM) * ( % of game Howell played) I made an assumption that shots are equally distributed throughout the game. I also did exclude games he missed due to injury. So some of these numbers could actually be higher. If anybody has data on opponent FGA-FGM I can finish the rest of the chart. At least in rough form.
Last edited 2/11/2013 11:27 AM by fortheloveofsports
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:45 AM
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Yes, more than likely he will end up in the top 5 if we can make a deep run in both tourney's.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:47 AM
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State is guaranteed 8 games remaining (7 regular season, 1 in ACCT). At 935 rebounds, he'd need to average 16.4 rebounds a game to tie Burleson for 2nd.
8 games: 16.4 RPG
9 games: 14.5 RPG
10 games: 13.1 RPG
11 games: 11.9 RPG
12 games: 10.9 RPG
Reminder of the Top 5 in NCSU History
#5 John Richter 936
#4 Bobby Speight 1,057
#3 Mel Thompson 1,063
#2Tommy Burleson 1,066
#1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598
For the Strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack ~ Rudyard Kipling
Last edited 2/11/2013 11:48 AM by DJncsu13
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:55 AM
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packleader2002 wrote: Yes, more than likely he will end up in the top 5 if we can make a deep run in both tourney's. since Howell needs 1 rebound to be #5, i sure hope a deep run in both tournaments is not needed to get 1 more rebound, unless it means NC State does not miss another shot until deep in NCAAT. 
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:56 AM
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Then the other team would not have to miss any shots either. Remember Big Rich told Gott "I'll get them all coach."  wolfer79 wrote:
packleader2002 wrote: Yes, more than likely he will end up in the top 5 if we can make a deep run in both tourney's. since Howell needs 1 rebound to be #5, i sure hope a deep run in both tournaments is not needed to get 1 more rebound, unless it means NC State does not miss another shot until deep in NCAAT. BEING AN N C STATE FAN BUILDS GREAT CHARACTER
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Posted: 2/11/2013 12:18 PM
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DJncsu13 wrote: State is guaranteed 8 games remaining (7 regular season, 1 in ACCT). At 935 rebounds, he'd need to average 16.4 rebounds a game to tie Burleson for 2nd.
8 games: 16.4 RPG
9 games: 14.5 RPG
10 games: 13.1 RPG
11 games: 11.9 RPG
12 games: 10.9 RPG
Reminder of the Top 5 in NCSU History
#5 John Richter 936
#4 Bobby Speight 1,057
#3 Mel Thompson 1,063
#2Tommy Burleson 1,066
#1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598 Technically, Rich is already up to #5... He combed his beard after the Clemson game and 79 basketballs fell out. |
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Posted: 2/12/2013 7:16 AM
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Assuming Howell plays in the remaining games and 7 regular season games and at least 1 ACCT game and at least 1 NCAAT/NIT game
Howell's 10.8 rebounds per game x 9 games = 97.2
so 935 + 97 = 1,032
fwiw
#5 Richter 935
#4 Bobby Speight 1,057
#3 Mel Thompson 1,063
#2Tommy Burleson 1,066
#1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 2/16/2013 9:50 PM by wolfer79
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Posted: 2/12/2013 7:29 AM
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or just not take any shots DrummerboyWolf wrote: Then the other team would not have to miss any shots either. Remember Big Rich told Gott "I'll get them all coach."
wolfer79 wrote:
packleader2002 wrote: Yes, more than likely he will end up in the top 5 if we can make a deep run in both tourney's. since Howell needs 1 rebound to be #5, i sure hope a deep run in both tournaments is not needed to get 1 more rebound, unless it means NC State does not miss another shot until deep in NCAAT.
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/16/2013 4:29 PM
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Howell 16 rebounds vs Virginia Tech
951 for career
#5 all time
#4 Bobby Speight 1,057
#3 Mel Thompson 1,063
#2Tommy Burleson 1,066
#1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 2/16/2013 9:48 PM by wolfer79
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Posted: 2/16/2013 6:09 PM
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6 regular-season games left plus at least 2 post-season games. 1,000 rebounds is definitely within reach. Must average 9/game to get there in the regular season. 2nd place is iffier. Must average 15/game to get there in the minimum available remaining games. Or, of course, make a deep run in both tournaments...
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:10 AM
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I think he has a good shot at moving up to number 2.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:31 PM
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1,000 rebounds sure sounds nice and would be quite a feat. We have an absolute minimum of seven games left, with six regular, and one guaranteed In the ACCT. Quite sure it will be more games than that. With 49 rebounds needed to reach a thousand, Howell would only have to average 7 a game, for those minimum of seven games. I say, 1,000 rebounds is basically a lock, catching some of the other guys, might be a stretch. If he does move up to 2nd or 3rd, theres going to be some happy Pack campers around here.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:44 PM
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Another great effort by Richard on the boards. Had he been in better shape and not prone to reach in fouls, he very well could have become the # 2 rebounder in school history. Shoot he still might make it with a few more games like yesterday.
What a great accomplishment by the young man and remember those rebounds all come one at a time. He has personified what hard work, dedication, and desire can help one's abilities. Hopefully it ends in a first team All ACC selection for Big Richard.
BEING AN N C STATE FAN BUILDS GREAT CHARACTER
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:59 PM
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115 left to tie for 2nd. 6 reg season and at least 2 tourney game (1acc and 1 NCAA or NIT), means a 14.375 average.
Sure would help to get some more wins in the tourneys.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 1:28 PM
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I hope his injured foot allows him to continue.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 2:26 PM
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wolfchicEE wrote: 115 left to tie for 2nd. 6 reg season and at least 2 tourney game (1acc and 1 NCAA or NIT), means a 14.375 average.
Sure would help to get some more wins in the tourneys. I'm thinking at least 2 ACC and 2 NCAA. which makes 10 games. 11.5 per game is not out of the question |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:47 AM
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Bump up for the game against the Criminoles from Free Shoes University...
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Posted: 2/19/2013 9:10 PM
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7 boards against FSU, 958 Career. Needs to average 8.4/game to get to 1000 in the regular season.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 4:51 PM
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Might be #1 after that first half?
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Posted: 2/23/2013 4:56 PM
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wolfpackernc wrote: Might be #1 after that first half? I doubt Howell had 560+ rebounds in the 1st half. box score credits him with 14 rebounds 958 for career + 14 = 972 rebounds #5 all time #4 Bobby Speight 1,057 #3 Mel Thompson 1,063 #2Tommy Burleson 1,066 #1 Ronnie Shavlik 1,598 prior to this season Howell's best rebounds per game 18 vs Virginia most rebounds in a game 35 by Ronnie Shavlik
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/23/2013 4:58 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- wolfer79 wrote: wolfpackernc wrote: Might be #1 after that first half? I doubt Howell had 560+ rebounds in the 1st half. box score credits him with 14 rebounds --------------------------------------------- Hard to rebound a turnover. |
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:06 PM
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wolfpackernc wrote:
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--- wolfer79 wrote:
wolfpackernc wrote: Might be #1 after that first half? I doubt Howell had 560+ rebounds in the 1st half.
box score credits him with 14 rebounds
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Hard to rebound a turnover. I have dropped an apple turnover but caught it on the bounce
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:53 PM
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good game by RH
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