CalStabbinsGhost wrote: It's just not a proper function of the taxpayer dollar to provide direct aid to private for profit organizations like the Carolina Panthers.

Wolfvet wrote: Would you prefer your tax money support all the baby mommas out there or an NFL team? What do you want your tax dollars spent on?

Pack84a wrote: Then there truly is no help for you.  And if people like you vote it's no wonder we're in the mess we're in.

Wolfvet wrote:  If I have to pay taxes I would much rather it go to my NFL team than pretty much anything else.

Wolfvet wrote: Would you prefer your tax money support all the baby mommas out there or an NFL team? What do you want your tax dollars spent on?

Pack84a wrote: Then there truly is no help for you.  And if people like you vote it's no wonder we're in the mess we're in.

Wolfvet wrote:  If I have to pay taxes I would much rather it go to my NFL team than pretty much anything else.

Wolfvet wrote: Would you prefer your tax money support all the baby mommas out there or an NFL team? What do you want your tax dollars spent on?

Pack84a wrote: Then there truly is no help for you.  And if people like you vote it's no wonder we're in the mess we're in.

Wolfvet wrote:  If I have to pay taxes I would much rather it go to my NFL team than pretty much anything else.

CardiacPackAttack wrote: I'm as conservative as they come, but when it comes to deals like this, we have to realize this is now standard procedure given that the NFL is the hottest ticket in sports. 

Really not asking for much when compared to other deals by other NFL teams/markets.

partizanpack wrote:

Wolfvet wrote: Would you prefer your tax money support all the baby mommas out there or an NFL team? What do you want your tax dollars spent on?

Pack84a wrote: Then there truly is no help for you.  And if people like you vote it's no wonder we're in the mess we're in.

Wolfvet wrote:  If I have to pay taxes I would much rather it go to my NFL team than pretty much anything else.

I would rather my tax dollars go to things like education, drug courts, cops, etc.  Things that actually have a real benefit to the State.  There is no conscionable reason for the state to take taxpayer dollars and give that money to organizations like the Panthers.  The Panthers can more than afford to make their own infrastructure investments.

PhoenixWolf wrote: I've long believed there should be a federal law against public funds for professional sports in any capacity. It's not fair to the states and municipalities that have teams that are held captive by teams. When a state or city pays for a stadium to support a pro team that city or state is subsidizing bloated pro player salaries.

The owners have enough revenue to finance their expansions on their own with end result being a lower salary for the players. Why should cities care about propping up the salaries of their players?

PhoenixWolf wrote: I've long believed there should be a federal law against public funds for professional sports in any capacity. It's not fair to the states and municipalities that have teams that are held captive by teams. When a state or city pays for a stadium to support a pro team that city or state is subsidizing bloated pro player salaries.

The owners have enough revenue to finance their expansions on their own with end result being a lower salary for the players. Why should cities care about propping up the salaries of their players?

stomv wrote: So put it on the ballot.  Want the folks from Charlotte to pay?  Put it on the Charlotte ballot.  Want the folks from all of NC to pay?  Put it on the ballot state-wide.

YouPeople wrote: How much did the state put towards our basketball arena?

copper2945 wrote: www.wralsportsfan.com/mccrory-...adium/12182121/

Thank you Gov. Pat! He tells one of the worst owners of a professional franchise to get the money for his stadium from somewhere else, no state funds to be used.

Treyvon wrote:

copper2945 wrote: www.wralsportsfan.com/mccrory-...adium/12182121/

Thank you Gov. Pat! He tells one of the worst owners of a professional franchise to get the money for his stadium from somewhere else, no state funds to be used.

Absolutely agree.

Pack84a wrote: Besides, any team that would shell out 42 million - about half of it guaranteed - to Jake DelTurnover deserves whatever they get.

1321wolf wrote:

PhoenixWolf wrote: I've long believed there should be a federal law against public funds for professional sports in any capacity. It's not fair to the states and municipalities that have teams that are held captive by teams. When a state or city pays for a stadium to support a pro team that city or state is subsidizing bloated pro player salaries.

The owners have enough revenue to finance their expansions on their own with end result being a lower salary for the players. Why should cities care about propping up the salaries of their players?

Seriously, why do we have to have a law for everybody's little pet peave?

Hasn't the federal government made enough mess of things that they should worry about fixing more important things than an industry that is smaller than General Electric?

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

+1


Hopefully something can still be worked out. Would be a shame to lose the team after it was a huge blessing for the Carolinas 20 years ago. 

Richardson isn't asking anywhere near the amounts of what other teams have gotten from their local gov'ts. 

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

SlickSW wrote: Sorry upset Skins fans but you're beloved Redskins will never be shown regularly again Sundays on Fox. I'm a Panthers fan, but a diehard NFL'er, so pony up just like I did and buy Sunday Ticket. Not only will you get to watch the Skins play every week but you'll get to see RW and PR if you want. Just never have understood the Panthers hate. If you wanna bash an organization for crapping on fans and a community start one about the Miami Marlins. That's a town that should be upset, believe it or not lots more love the Panthers in Charlotte than the ones who hate em. If the Bobcats win people will show also, Shinn leaving left sour grapes to most in Charlotte.

Treyvon wrote:

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

Call me an old fart....GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

CardiacPackAttack wrote: I'm as conservative as they come, but when it comes to deals like this, we have to realize this is now standard procedure given that the NFL is the hottest ticket in sports. 

Really not asking for much when compared to other deals by other NFL teams/markets.

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

Wolfpack4Life wrote:

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

The panthers are Charlotte's team, the Redskins are North Carolina's team.  They have been for decades.  And being from Raleigh, I don't particularly care to have anything to do with Charlotte, let alone pull for any of their teams.

borowolf10 wrote: How does it make any sense that a team in Maryland is North Carolina's team? Are you a Washington capitals fan
aswell? This isn't the 80's North Carolina is a growing thriving well respected state with it's own team, join us in the 21st century. I'm not the biggest fan of the city of Charlotte either but it's the biggest city in the state and its logical that if we are going to have an NFL team it will be in Charlotte.

borowolf10 wrote: I can't wait until all these old fart redskins fans die off.
The same goes for these people that bandwagon on the
Cowboys and steelers like a bunch of Walmart tarhole fans.
If you consider yourself a real North Carolinian then you
have no excuse to pull for anybody else but the state's home
team.
Losing the panthers to LA and not having an nfl team
Would make North Carolina look like a state full of backwoods
Bumpkins, and for everybody saying that nobody cares about
The panthers you are dead wrong. I have lived in various parts
of North Carolina my whole life and the vast majority of people
under 40 pull for and love the panthers because its our state's
team.

borowolf10 wrote: How does it make any sense that a team in Maryland is North Carolina's team? Are you a Washington capitals fan
aswell? This isn't the 80's North Carolina is a growing thriving well respected state with it's own team, join us in the 21st century. I'm not the biggest fan of the city of Charlotte either but it's the biggest city in the state and its logical that if we are going to have an NFL team it will be in Charlotte.

CardiacPackAttack wrote: I'm as conservative as they come, but when it comes to deals like this, we have to realize this is now standard procedure given that the NFL is the hottest ticket in sports. 

Really not asking for much when compared to other deals by other NFL teams/markets.

PackChem91 wrote:

PhoenixWolf wrote: I've long believed there should be a federal law against public funds for professional sports in any capacity. It's not fair to the states and municipalities that have teams that are held captive by teams. When a state or city pays for a stadium to support a pro team that city or state is subsidizing bloated pro player salaries.

The owners have enough revenue to finance their expansions on their own with end result being a lower salary for the players. Why should cities care about propping up the salaries of their players?

Maybe civic pride and recognition?  Many attirbute the national attention Charlotte now receives to the beginning of its pro-sport franchises with the Hornets.  Which surely only got moreso with the NFL.
We can all dislike this ability of NFL franchises to hold the cities hostage, but its the reality of the business.  Do you want to be the mayor/governor in charge when the NFL team follows thru on its threat and leaves your city?