Pack84a wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Jrb599 wrote:

ncdoc wrote: The tax payers didn't have to contribute very much to the initial building of the stadium unlike places like Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Minneapolis so, the deal they received then was pretty sweet compared to most other NFL cities.

If the taxpayers don't want to contribute they have the choice not to go to bars and restaurants unlike the folks in Cincinnati where they're charged a stadium tax by the city which helped in construction and maintenence of Great American BallPark and Paul Brown Stadium.

This may be the DUMBEST thing I've ever read.

Not real sure what you find so dumb about the post. The tax is on prepared food and beverage. You have the choice of going to a bar or restaurant. If you don't want to pay the tax then eat at home.

Pretty reasonable and sensable to me.

A Charlotte-loving Hole fan who has never seen a tax he didn't like.  Why is this not surprising in the least?

ncdoc wrote:

Pack84a wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Jrb599 wrote:

ncdoc wrote: The tax payers didn't have to contribute very much to the initial building of the stadium unlike places like Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Minneapolis so, the deal they received then was pretty sweet compared to most other NFL cities.

If the taxpayers don't want to contribute they have the choice not to go to bars and restaurants unlike the folks in Cincinnati where they're charged a stadium tax by the city which helped in construction and maintenence of Great American BallPark and Paul Brown Stadium.

This may be the DUMBEST thing I've ever read.

Not real sure what you find so dumb about the post. The tax is on prepared food and beverage. You have the choice of going to a bar or restaurant. If you don't want to pay the tax then eat at home.

Pretty reasonable and sensable to me.

A Charlotte-loving Hole fan who has never seen a tax he didn't like.  Why is this not surprising in the least?

WTF are you talking about? This is an tax by choice only. Nobody is forcing you to pay the tax like they are in places like Cincinnati, Minn. and Indy.

If you want to go out to eat and booze it up then expect to pay a whopping $2 for every $100 you spend. If you don't want to pay the tax then stay at home, have your old lady cook you some fatback and get you another Budweiser out of the fridge.

Pretty damn simple to me.

copper2945 wrote:

If you have been a PSL owner since the start of the Panthers' organization, you have paid approximately $233,000 in 18 years for 4 playoff appearances. . . that's the numbers they are reporting on Wfnz.  The Panthers are a horribly run franchise too.  One of the worst in the NFL.

Pack84a wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Pack84a wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Jrb599 wrote:

ncdoc wrote: The tax payers didn't have to contribute very much to the initial building of the stadium unlike places like Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Minneapolis so, the deal they received then was pretty sweet compared to most other NFL cities.

If the taxpayers don't want to contribute they have the choice not to go to bars and restaurants unlike the folks in Cincinnati where they're charged a stadium tax by the city which helped in construction and maintenence of Great American BallPark and Paul Brown Stadium.

This may be the DUMBEST thing I've ever read.

Not real sure what you find so dumb about the post. The tax is on prepared food and beverage. You have the choice of going to a bar or restaurant. If you don't want to pay the tax then eat at home.

Pretty reasonable and sensable to me.

A Charlotte-loving Hole fan who has never seen a tax he didn't like.  Why is this not surprising in the least?

WTF are you talking about? This is an tax by choice only. Nobody is forcing you to pay the tax like they are in places like Cincinnati, Minn. and Indy.

If you want to go out to eat and booze it up then expect to pay a whopping $2 for every $100 you spend. If you don't want to pay the tax then stay at home, have your old lady cook you some fatback and get you another Budweiser out of the fridge.

Pretty damn simple to me.

How's about instead YOUR old lady cook for me.  And she can do my ******* laundry while she's at it.

And you get out there and mow my lawn.

1985 NCSU Grad wrote:

copper2945 wrote:

If you have been a PSL owner since the start of the Panthers' organization, you have paid approximately $233,000 in 18 years for 4 playoff appearances. . . that's the numbers they are reporting on Wfnz.  The Panthers are a horribly run franchise too.  One of the worst in the NFL.

Now..maybe Club Seats or 50 yards line seats.......

My tickets have gone up a few dollars since the beginning but I will use today's prices for a high amount that I have paid over th elast 18 years and it includes parking each game...

$18,840.00 for 10 games for 18 years (180 games total)....and it includes parking and two tickets for each game...

Also...two PSL's beside me just sold (by a friend of mine) for a $5,200 profit from their original amount...

ncdoc wrote:

Pack84a wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Jrb599 wrote:

ncdoc wrote: The tax payers didn't have to contribute very much to the initial building of the stadium unlike places like Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Minneapolis so, the deal they received then was pretty sweet compared to most other NFL cities.

If the taxpayers don't want to contribute they have the choice not to go to bars and restaurants unlike the folks in Cincinnati where they're charged a stadium tax by the city which helped in construction and maintenence of Great American BallPark and Paul Brown Stadium.

This may be the DUMBEST thing I've ever read.

Not real sure what you find so dumb about the post. The tax is on prepared food and beverage. You have the choice of going to a bar or restaurant. If you don't want to pay the tax then eat at home.

Pretty reasonable and sensable to me.

A Charlotte-loving Hole fan who has never seen a tax he didn't like.  Why is this not surprising in the least?

WTF are you talking about? This is an tax by choice only. Nobody is forcing you to pay the tax like they are in places like Cincinnati, Minn. and Indy.

If you want to go out to eat and booze it up then expect to pay a whopping $2 for every $100 you spend. If you don't want to pay the tax then stay at home, have your old lady cook you some fatback and get you another Budweiser out of the fridge.

Pretty damn simple to me.

copper2945 wrote:

boonewolf1 wrote: 125 million in rehab, it needs that much? Really.

I actually just heard on Charlotte radio it might be closer to 200 million.  Wonder if they put a dome on it to try and host a Super Bowl.

**Edit to add a retractable roof is in the talks based on what I am listening to right now.  Possibly Charlotte trying to get into the National Championship rotation and possibly having a "Opening Weekend" game like Atlanta and Dallas.

thought they had already approved 144 million? Would be nice to have a retractable roof..not sure if they are thinking that though.

Jrb599 wrote: A select few in the local economy benefit from it.

TruthBKnownReturns wrote:

Jrb599 wrote: Hate that the tax payers have to pay for this.

I get that, but the local economy does benefit from events in this venue.

Jrb599 wrote: Hate that the tax payers have to pay for this.

AllStatealltheTime wrote:

thought they had already approved 144 million? Would be nice to have a retractable roof..not sure if they are thinking that though.

xCainx wrote: Yes, I think it's a reasonable ask by the Richardson.

I'm willing to be there is a quantifiable benefit for Charlotte and the state of North Carolina having the Panthers, from property taxes values, and surrounding businesses, who also pay taxes on those transactions---bars, restaurants, parking, vendors, higher rents for those places, more exposure, bowl games, ACC title game, etc.

Considering he built the thing without taxpayer money, ....I think it's reasonable, and it seems like the city council and mayor agree and granted it. I think McCroy will as well.

mwp99 wrote: Go to the Bank for a loan.

xCainx wrote:

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^just curious, how does XYZ company help NC? How much money can they bring in in a year?

Their second factory isn't in NC.

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It's more than just their cutting-edge widget....it's all their products.

I would think a good amount. First off XYZ Company pays taxes, property taxes on the factory, the office building, ...all the vendors apart of it, from the direct employees in the factory, the landscaping crew, people in the stores that sell their products, the people working in the buildings across the street, the charity work benefit gained from it, ....to the indirect ones, ...the people who own land around there taxes higher, the bars and restaurant employes making more, paying more taxes, doing more business.

So far since inception, I don't think XYZ Company asked for anything. i think the city might have gave them the land to build it, but not sure.

I live in Charlotte and a taxpayer, ...for all the b.d. government waste that no one mentions, this one is allocated. The XYZ Company have been great for the Charlotte region, and state. Charlotte is the biggest city and most urban in the state, they aren't out in left field asking for it.