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RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:28 PM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
If we tie with UNC and UNC alone, we win the tiebreaker. Assuming they lose to Duke again, we'll be 1-1 while they are 0-2.
"We want guys who will play like a Jet" John Idzik, GM of the New York Jets
Locally responsive, Globally engaged.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:32 PM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
State has: BC, @GT, Wake, @FSU
UNC has: @Clemson, FSU, @Maryland, Duke
UVA has: GT (tomorrow), Duke, @BC, @FSU, Maryland
At least we have the easiest remaining schedule.
SABOTAGE!!!
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:33 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Mentally tough? You have got to be kidding me. We have got to be the weakest minded, dumbest team in the league. If I see another lazy pass either to the wing or to the top of the key, I think I'll shoot my TV. We beat ourselves regularly. I will always continue to pull for this team and most if them (I'm looking at you,CJ) play very hard, but damn it's tough watching all this talent go to waste due to simple bad decisions.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:35 PM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
UNC probably goes 2-2 maybe 1-3
UVA goes 3-2 though I could see them going 4-1. That's a favorable schedule IMO.
I bet it's between us and UNC for 4th.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:25 PM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
hunwolf wrote: UNC probably goes 2-2 maybe 1-3
UVA goes 3-2 though I could see them going 4-1. That's a favorable schedule IMO.
I bet it's between us and UNC for 4th. Duke, Maryland and at FSU will be no cakewalk for the Hoos. If the Pack is to finish 4th or better, I think the more likely scenario is passing UVA. I see UNC losing to Duke but that is it. Like it or not they are much improved. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:36 PM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
Since we are throwing out hypotheticals...
If States goes 4-0 in these final 4 games... it seems almost a lock to get a top 4 seed... likely 3rd
UNC could easily lose its last 2... @ UM will not be easy... and they are trying to elevate themselves away from that bubble line...
UVA has been pretty Pack-esque on the road... so back to back road games would likely yeild a loss, coupled with a Duke loss...
Pack finishes third... of course the biggest IF will be can the Pack play good basketball for 4 straight games... I am still holding out hope.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:49 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
week ahead (to save me some time after Florida State @ Virginia Tech ends)
February 26 (or whatever day Tuesday is this week)
Wake Forest @ Florida State 9pm espnu/watchespm
February 27 (or whatever day Wednesday is this week)
Virginia Tech @ Miami 7pm RSN
Boston College @ NC State 8pm ACC Network-split coverage/espn3
Maryland @ Georgia Tech 8pm ACC Network-split coverage/espn3
February 28 (or whatever day Thursday is this week)
unc-ch @ Clemson 7pm espn/espn2/watchespn
Duke @ Virginia 9pm 7pm espn/espn2/watchespn
March 2 (or whatever day Saturday is this weekend upcoming)
Maryland @ Wake Forest noon ACC Network
Miami @ Duke 6pm espn/watchespn
Clemson @ Virginia Tech 8pm RSN/espn3
March 3 (or whatever day Sunday is this weekend upcoming)
Florida State @ unc-ch 2pm CBS
Virginia @ Boston College 4pm ACC Network
NC State @ Georgia Tech 6pm espnu/watchespn
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 2/24/2013 8:13 PM by wolfer79
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:08 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Maybe I'm still down from yesterday, but I just don't feel a top 4 finish from this team now. I hope I'm wrong.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:11 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
I don't know about other games, but the BC @ State game will be on 2/27, not 2/26.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:13 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
pltwolves wrote: I don't know about other games, but the BC @ State game will be on 2/27, not 2/26. got off 1 day on midweek games thanks for catching it
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:08 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Standing with what I think are tiebreakers
Miami 13-1
Duke 11-3
Virginia 9-5 (1-1 vs unc-ch) (0-1 vs Miami, 0-0 vs Duke, 1-0 vs NC State)
unc-ch 9-5 (1-1 vs Virginia) (0-2 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 1-1 vs NC State)
NC State 8-6
Maryland 7-7
Florida State 6-8
Clemson 5-9 (1-0 vs Wake Forest)
Wake Forest 5-9 (0-1 vs Clemson)
Georgia Tech 4-10 (0-0 vs Boston College) (0-1 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 1-1 vs Virginia)
Boston College 4-10 (0-0 vs Georgia Tech) (0-2 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 0-1 vs Virginia)
Virginia Tech 3-11
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:47 AM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
hunwolf wrote: UNC probably goes 2-2 maybe 1-3
UVA goes 3-2 though I could see them going 4-1. That's a favorable schedule IMO.
I bet it's between us and UNC for 4th. I think UNC goes 3-1 (loss to either Maryland or Duke, not both). I think State goes 3-1 (loss @ FSU) UVA goes 4-1 UVA - 3rd UNC - 4th State - 5th
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:28 AM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Other than having to play an extra game, finishing 5th wouldn`t be all that bad. Va Tech in first round and then the Cheats on Friday, win that and a possible rematch with Miami. 3 very winnable games, if all of our guys show up to play.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:45 AM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Packfanroy wrote: Other than having to play an extra game, finishing 5th wouldn`t be all that bad. Va Tech in first round and then the Cheats on Friday, win that and a possible rematch with Miami. 3 very winnable games, if all of our guys show up to play. Va Tech still has a chance to get out of 12th... They seem to be playing a lot better. Not sure I'd be thrilled playing them on Thursday.
For the Strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack ~ Rudyard Kipling
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:50 AM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Packfanroy wrote: Other than having to play an extra game, finishing 5th wouldn`t be all that bad. Va Tech in first round and then the Cheats on Friday, win that and a possible rematch with Miami. 3 very winnable games, if all of our guys show up to play. you see things more optimistically than I. I see that as: VT - a team we needed OT to beat at Home UNC - a team we split 1-1 Miami - the #1 team in the league Yes an Th. match with VT wouldn't be the end of the world, but if we win, it means we're probably already tired going into the #4 seed game. Win that, and you're exhausted for Miami.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:54 AM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
I would rather play Miami on Saturday than Duke. Duke is playing better at the moment. Plus, by Sunday afternoon, all those 3-pointers Duke's going to be heaving all weekend have a better chance to start coming up short.
Of course, the way we're playing all this is irrelevant.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:03 AM
RE: ACC Regular Season Tie Breaker Situations
--------------------------------------------- --- StateFan03 wrote: hunwolf wrote: UNC probably goes 2-2 maybe 1-3
UVA goes 3-2 though I could see them going 4-1. That's a favorable schedule IMO.
I bet it's between us and UNC for 4th. I think UNC goes 3-1 (loss to either Maryland or Duke, not both). I think State goes 3-1 (loss @ FSU) UVA goes 4-1 UVA - 3rd UNC - 4th State - 5th --------------------------------------------- Same here, although I wouldnt be surprised if we won out and UVA lost to MD |
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Posted: 2/25/2013 3:43 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
We'll win our last two home games. And if we can just beat GT I think our boys will lay it all on the line at FSU with an ACC bye at stake. I'd much rather get the bye than have to play an extra game with our thin lineup. We'd stand virtually zero chance of winning it all if we have to play on Thursday IMO. Hell we get tired at the end of games now. Can you imagine how we'd play on day 4!
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Posted: 2/26/2013 3:28 AM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Let's not give up on 4th place. UVa has not been that good on the road. But we still have to finish 4-0.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 5:34 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
February 26 (or whatever day Tuesday is this week)
Wake Forest @ Florida State 9pm espnu/watchespn
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/26/2013 5:48 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Wolfdog6 wrote: Let's not give up on 4th place. UVa has not been that good on the road. But we still have to finish 4-0. We can finish in 4th several different ways. But it all starts with us winning out. UNC loses to Duke and we take the tiebreaker over them. UVA always has tiebreaker over us. Maryland won't do us in favors - I imagine they lose both UVa and UNC games.
We can even curse other teams from afar. - rswilli2
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Posted: 2/27/2013 6:28 AM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
February 26
Wake Forest 62
Florida State 76
Standing with what I think are tiebreakers
Miami 13-1
Duke 11-3
Virginia 9-5 (1-1 vs unc-ch) (0-1 vs Miami, 0-0 vs Duke, 1-0 vs NC State)
unc-ch 9-5 (1-1 vs Virginia) (0-2 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 1-1 vs NC State)
NC State 8-6
Maryland 7-7
Florida State 7-8
Clemson 5-9
Wake Forest 5-10
Georgia Tech 4-10 (0-0 vs Boston College) (0-1 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 1-1 vs Virginia)
Boston College 4-10 (0-0 vs Georgia Tech) (0-2 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 0-1 vs Virginia)
Virginia Tech 3-11
February 27
Virginia Tech @ Miami 7pm RSN
Boston College @ NC State 8pm ACC Network-split coverage/espn3
Maryland @ Georgia Tech 8pm ACC Network-split coverage/espn3
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/27/2013 8:19 AM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
If Duke takes care of UNC, we should be in a great position for 4th place, we would own the tie break with UNC if that happened. Our schedule is also easier than UNC's. We have @ G Tech/@FSU , and they have @Clemson/@Maryland, plus they have Duke at home. We need Duke to beat them and split our road games and we will get 4th.
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Posted: 2/27/2013 9:35 AM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
The bottom line is we have to win out to get #3/#4. If we lose 1 more game we are pretty much a lock for the #5.
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Posted: 2/27/2013 1:00 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Here are the breakdowns for the remainder of the season & my picks:
At this point, we cannot catch Miami & the only team that can't catch us is V Tech. So pull for Miami & Vtech always.
Current:
Miami 13-1 / 22- 4
Duke 11-3 / 24-3
UNC-cheat 9-5 / 19-8
UVa 9-5 / 19-8
NCSU 8-6 / 19-8
Md 7-7 / 19-8
FSU 7-8 / 15-13
Clemson 5-9 / 13-13
WF 5-10 / 12-15
GT 4-10 / 14-12
BC 4-10 / 12-15
V Tech 3-11 / 12-15
Miami 13-1
2/27 VT - W
3/2 @Duke - L
3/6 GT - W
3/9 Clemson – W
Final Record 16-2
Duke 11-3
2/28 @Uva - W
3/2 Miami - W
3/5 VT - W
3/9 @UNC - W
Final Record 15-3
Uva 9-5
2/28 Duke - L
3/3 @BC - L
3/7 @FSU - W
3/10 Md - L
Final Record 10-8
UNC 9-5
2/28 @Clemson - L
3/3 FSU - W
3/6 @Md - L
3/9 Duke - L
Final Record 10-8
NCSU 8-6
2/27 BC - W
3/3 @ GT - W
3/6 WF - W
3/9 @FSU - W
Final Record 12-6
Md 7-7
2/27 @ GT - W
3/2 @ WF - W
3/6 UNC - W
3/10 @ Uva - W
Final Record 11-7
FSU 7-8
3/3 @ UNC -L
3/7 UVA - L
3/9 NCSU - L
Final Record 7-11
Clemson 5-9
2/28 UNC - W
3/2 @VT - W
3/5 BC - L
3/9 @ Miami - L
Final Record 7-11
WF 5-10
3/2 Md - L
3/6 @ NCSU - L
3/10 VT - W
Final Record 6-12
GT 4-10
2/27 Md - L
3/3 NCSU - L
3/6 @ Miami - L
3/9 @ BC - L
Final Record 4-14
BC 4-10
2/27 @NCSU - L
3/3 Uva - W
3/5 @ Clemson - W
3/9 GT - W
Final Record 7-11
VT 3-11
2/27 @ Miami - L
3/2 Clemson - L
3/5 @ Duke - L
3/10 @ WF - L
Final Record 3-15
Final Rankings
1) Miami 16-2
2) Duke 15-3
3) NCSU 12-6
4) Md 11-7
5) UNC-cheat 10-8
5) UVa 10-8
7) FSU 7-11
7) Clemson 7-11
7) BC 7-11
10) WF 6-12
11) GT 4-14
12) V Tech 3-15
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Posted: 2/27/2013 1:26 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Raleighwolf...that sure would be nice if it ended up that way!
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Posted: 2/27/2013 1:37 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
I think Maryland is much more likely to go 0-4 than 4-0. They are schizo.
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Posted: 2/27/2013 1:40 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
StateFan03 wrote: The bottom line is we have to win out to get #3/#4. If we lose 1 more game we are pretty much a lock for the #5. Not at all. Unc has @ Clem/MD and home vs. Duke. They liklihood of them losing two I would think is 30-40%. We can lose one of our road games and still have a decent shot at 4th through a tiebreak with UNC because we would have beaten Duke (Miami is a wash). |
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Posted: 2/27/2013 1:53 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Lets see what www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html predicts for the final standings. Looking at each team's page and their predicted ACC record it comes up like this : 1) Miami 16-2 2) Duke 14-4 3) UVA 12-6 4) Tie NCSU 11-7 CHeats 11-7 - tie breaker : head to head - 1-1 , with Miami 0-2 for CHeats, 0-1 us, Duke - CHeats 0-2, US 1-1 - We get 4th 6) MD 9-9 7) FSU 8-10 8) Clemson 9-11 9) Gtech 7-11 10) Wake 6-12 11) BC 5-13 12) Vtech 4-14 GO PACK!!! BEAT BC!!! |
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Posted: 2/27/2013 1:59 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
gopack247 wrote:
StateFan03 wrote: The bottom line is we have to win out to get #3/#4. If we lose 1 more game we are pretty much a lock for the #5. Not at all. Unc has @ Clem/MD and home vs. Duke. They liklihood of them losing two I would think is 30-40%. We can lose one of our road games and still have a decent shot at 4th through a tiebreak with UNC because we would have beaten Duke (Miami is a wash). If we lose one we also have to worry about Maryland sneaking past us too. |
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Posted: 2/27/2013 2:11 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
adamant wrote: Lets see what www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html predicts for the final standings.
Looking at each team's page and their predicted ACC record it comes up like this :
1) Miami 16-2
2) Duke 14-4
3) UVA 12-6
4) Tie
NCSU 11-7
CHeats 11-7 - tie breaker : head to head - 1-1 , with Miami 0-2 for CHeats, 0-1 us, Duke - CHeats 0-2, US 1-1 - We get 4th
I think you are correct with the positions but I think you have to take into account the records against UVA also. NCSU - UM 0-2, Duke 1-1, UVA 0-1 = 1-3 UNC - UM 0-2, Duke 0-2, UVA 1-1 = 1-4
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Posted: 2/27/2013 2:23 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
PoleD wrote:
adamant wrote: Lets see what www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html predicts for the final standings.
Looking at each team's page and their predicted ACC record it comes up like this :
1) Miami 16-2
2) Duke 14-4
3) UVA 12-6
4) Tie
NCSU 11-7
CHeats 11-7 - tie breaker : head to head - 1-1 , with Miami 0-2 for CHeats, 0-1 us, Duke - CHeats 0-2, US 1-1 - We get 4th
I think you are correct with the positions but I think you have to take into account the records against UVA also.
NCSU - UM 0-2, Duke 1-1, UVA 0-1 = 1-3
UNC - UM 0-2, Duke 0-2, UVA 1-1 = 1-4 I don't think our records against UVA would factor in at all. You just start at the top of the standings and go down until you find a difference. You get a difference with Duke, Us vs Duke: 1-1, unc-ch vs Duke: 0-2. So, we hold the tiebreaker in that scenario without having to go down to UVA. |
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Posted: 2/27/2013 8:05 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
halftime
Virginia Tech 19
Miami 38
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/27/2013 8:53 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
halftime
Maryland 33
Georgia Tech 38
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/27/2013 9:07 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
final
Virginia Tech (12-16, 3-12) 58
Miami 76
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/27/2013 10:05 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
final
Boston College 64
NC State 82
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/27/2013 10:07 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Maryland pretty much put themselves out of the NCAA picture tonight.
1 down, 3 to go for us. Need to win. Hopefully we can pick up that 3rd or 4th seed.
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Posted: 2/27/2013 10:08 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
with February 27 games complete (or close enough)
Miami 14-1
Duke 11-3
Virginia 9-5 (1-1 vs unc-ch) (0-1 vs Miami, 0-0 vs Duke, 1-0 vs NC State)
unc-ch 9-5 (1-1 vs Virginia) (0-2 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 1-1 vs NC State)
NC State 9-6
Florida State 7-8 (2-0 vs Maryland)
Maryland 7-8 (0-2 vs Florida State)
Clemson 5-9
Georgia Tech 5-10 (2-0 vs Wake Forest)
Wake Forest 5-10 (0-2 vs Georgia Tech)
Boston College 4-11
Virginia Tech 3-12
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/27/2013 10:12 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
wolfer79 wrote: with February 27 games complete (or close enough)
Miami 14-1
Duke 11-3
Virginia 9-5 (1-1 vs unc-ch) (0-1 vs Miami, 0-0 vs Duke, 1-0 vs NC State)
unc-ch 9-5 (1-1 vs Virginia) (0-2 vs Miami, 0-1 vs Duke, 1-1 vs NC State)
NC State 9-6
Florida State 7-8 (2-0 vs Maryland)
Maryland 7-8 (0-2 vs Florida State)
Clemson 5-9
Georgia Tech 5-10 (2-0 vs Wake Forest)
Wake Forest 5-10 (0-2 vs Georgia Tech)
Boston College 4-11
Virginia Tech 3-12 Wolfer is one efficient internetter |
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Posted: 2/27/2013 10:14 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Don't see Carolina losing to Clemson.
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