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RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
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Posted: 2/15/2013 9:25 AM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Actually, I think we have a realistic shot at catching Duke for second. If we win out (which is at the very least quite possible). Remember, Duke was one blown no-call away from losing at BC. It's not like they just blow everyone out. Besides, I think they're going to start cooling down just a bit after peaking against us in the first half. They weren't that good against UNC. Duke's remaining schedule: @ Md - this one could be a loss for Duke. Big emotional win followed by going on the road against a team that hates you, and has talent. Duke should win, but they could lose. @ VT - win BC - win @ UVa - definitely a losable game for Duke Miami - same VT - win @UNC - definitely losable, as we saw the other night Are we likely to catch Duke? No. But it is not outside the realm of possibility; only 3 games between us. If we tie them, we split head-to-head. Is the next tie-breaker determined by which of the two lost to the highest rated team? RedTerrors wrote: We are better off if Dook and Miami go ahead and win out, because we ain't catching them, unless they lose out....plus it helps our RPI.
Getting to 3rd place would be a very nice achievement given where we find ourselves mid-conference.
Last edited 2/15/2013 9:27 AM by packnplay
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Posted: 2/15/2013 9:26 AM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Treyvon wrote: Unc homer is all I got to say  IC pays me to be a spy. I have 6 degrees and have seen both Ms. Wiley and Ms. Hansborough naked (and together)
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/15/2013 9:28 AM
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At this point, all I want to see is the Pack making the top 4. This is an assumption, but I believe a pretty good one. Miami and Duke will most likely finish 1 and 2 in the regular season. As far as the tournament goes, is it really going to matter much, if you're either the 3 or 4? If everything goes as planned (which it doesn't, all the time) the semi-finals would be the 2 seed, will play #3. The #1 vs #4. In other words, the 3 and 4, will be playing either Duke or Miami. Being a State fan, I'm not sure which one would be better. I truly think we could beat either one, but I really have no preference. They are both very good. Any thoughts on that?
Last edited 2/15/2013 9:40 AM by goturbackpack66
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Posted: 2/15/2013 10:00 AM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
goturbackpack66 wrote: At this point, all I want to see is the Pack making the top 4. This is an assumption, but I believe a pretty good one. Miami and Duke will most likely finish 1 and 2 in the regular season. As far as the tournament goes, is it really going to matter much, if you're either the 3 or 4? If everything goes as planned (which it doesn't, all the time) the semi-finals would be the 2 seed, will play #3. The #1 vs #4. In other words, the 3 and 4, will be playing either Duke or Miami. Being a State fan, I'm not sure which one would be better. I truly think we could beat either one, but I really have no preference. They are both very good. Any thoughts on that? Doesn't matter. They should be the ones worried about playing US. |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 10:41 AM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Miami will wind up #1 and Duke #2. Us finishing #4 is important rather than the #3 (UVA). For starters, Duke is the team you least want to play. Whether people are honest with themselves about this, I don't know. We played Miami straight up for 40 minutes, and I have no doubt we can do it again. UNC is young, and they can beat anyone, or lose to anyone in this conference, I hope we beat them out for the #4 and get them on Friday after they play Thursday.
I do not want the #3 and play at 9:45 Friday night, hoping to win and then subsequently play Duke at 3:45 Saturday afternoon. This should be an easy call for NCSU fans, we want the #4 seed.
Last edited 2/15/2013 10:42 AM by gopack247
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Posted: 2/15/2013 11:03 AM
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I wouldn't lock Duke in at #2 just yet. They still play @ Maryland (always tough for them), @ UVA, @ UNC, and home vs Miami. |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 11:03 AM
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wolfpack821 wrote: So who should we be pulling for in UNC vs. UVA? If UVA wins and we beat VT that puts a game between us and the Cheats, but it keeps UVA's lead over us. I guess go UVA? Yes. It is better if UVA wins -we can catch them later as our schedule is more friendly. UVA has a tough row to hoe..... |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 11:58 AM
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UVA has a tough row to hoe. At UNC, at Miami and Duke at home. Although I agree that all we want is to see the Pack finish 4th or better, I can see them passing UVA for third.
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Posted: 2/15/2013 2:21 PM
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Couldn't see starting a new topic on this, but is our PackPride roster ever updated?: Where are Robinson, J Lewis, Cannon, etc? |
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Posted: 2/15/2013 2:38 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
wolfer79 wrote:
Treyvon wrote: Unc homer is all I got to say IC pays me to be a spy.
I have 6 degrees and have seen both Ms. Wiley and Ms. Hansborough naked (and together) snort -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted: 2/15/2013 4:08 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
badweatherpackfan wrote:
wolfpack821 wrote: So who should we be pulling for in UNC vs. UVA? If UVA wins and we beat VT that puts a game between us and the Cheats, but it keeps UVA's lead over us. I guess go UVA? Yes. It is better if UVA wins -we can catch them later as our schedule is more friendly. UVA has a tough row to hoe..... Always want UNC to lose, don't care about the circumstance.
Last edited 2/17/2013 6:01 AM by michael924
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:36 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Saturday finals
Boston College (3-9)66
Florida State (6-6) 69
Virginia (8-4)81
unc-ch (7-5) 93
Virginia Tech 86
NC State 90
overtime
Georgia Tech (4-8) 57
Wake Forest (11-14, 4-9)(who beat NC State 86-84 in Winston-Salem on January 22)(4-9) 56
Duke (9-3) 81
Maryland (6-6) 83
updated standings -ties listed alphabetically
Miami 11-0
Duke 9-3
Virginia 8-4
unc-ch 7-5
NC State 7-5
Florida State 6-6
Maryland 6-6
Clemson 5-7
Georgia Tech 4-8
Wake Forest 4-9
Boston College 3-9
Virginia Tech 2-10
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:39 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
^ We should be ahead of the cheaters since we hold the tie-breaker.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:40 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
9mariowilliams90 wrote: ^ We should be ahead of the cheaters since we hold the tie-breaker. He puts ties alphabetically...
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:43 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
9mariowilliams90 wrote: ^ We should be ahead of the cheaters since we hold the tie-breaker. been doing it this way all season, not going to try to figure out tie-breakers until last week
updated standings -ties listed alphabetically
Miami 11-0
Duke 9-3
Virginia 8-4
unc-ch 7-5
NC State 7-5
Florida State 6-6
Maryland 6-6
Clemson 5-7
Georgia Tech 4-8
Wake Forest 4-9
Boston College 3-9
Virginia Tech 2-10
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:43 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
gopack247 wrote: Miami will wind up #1 and Duke #2. Us finishing #4 is important rather than the #3 (UVA). For starters, Duke is the team you least want to play. Whether people are honest with themselves about this, I don't know. We played Miami straight up for 40 minutes, and I have no doubt we can do it again. UNC is young, and they can beat anyone, or lose to anyone in this conference, I hope we beat them out for the #4 and get them on Friday after they play Thursday.
I do not want the #3 and play at 9:45 Friday night, hoping to win and then subsequently play Duke at 3:45 Saturday afternoon. This should be an easy call for NCSU fans, we want the #4 seed. Strongly disagree, would love another shot at Duke, as that 3 pt shooting miracle won't happen again and Plums will not go 100% from the line again. I want another shot at Duke most of all. Life long Wolfpack Fan....Alumni Class of 1989
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:45 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet?
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:47 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
We win and the 2 above us lose...but the 2 below us win as well. things tightening up and you can go ahead and crown Miami #1 seed
Tuesday is huge. we host FSU and UVA( @UM) and UNC(@GT) go on the road
if we can hold serve an GT pulls through that would give us a tie for 3rd and push the cheats down a few notches.
Maryland could still get on the bubble with a win streak here at the end
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:50 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
ONLYNCSU1 wrote: How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet? should UVA come in front of Virginia Tech should unc-ch University of Maryland University of Virginia University of Miami be under the "U"
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/16/2013 9:31 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Miami 11-0
Duke 9-3
Virginia 8-4
NC State 7-5
unc-ch 7-5
Florida State 6-6
Maryland 6-6
Clemson 5-7
Georgia Tech 4-8
Wake Forest 4-9
Boston College 3-9
Virginia Tech 2-10
I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure feel better now.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 10:03 PM
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| School | Conf. | Pct. | Overall | Pct. | | Miami | 11-0 | 1.000 | 20-3 | .870 | | Duke | 9-3 | .750 | 22-3 | .880 | | Virginia | 8-4 | .667 | 18-7 | .720 | | NC State | 7-5 | .583 | 18-7 | .720 | | North Carolina | 7-5 | .583 | 17-8 | .680 | | Maryland | 6-6 | .500 | 18-7 | .720 | | Florida State | 6-6 | .500 | 14-11 | .560 | | Clemson | 5-7 | .417 | 13-11 | .542 | | Georgia Tech | 4-8 | .333 | 14-10 | .583 | | Wake Forest | 4-9 | .308 | 11-14 | .440 | | Boston College | 3-9 | .250 | 11-14 | .440 | | Virginia Tech | 2-10 | .167 | 11-14 | .440 |
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Posted: 2/16/2013 10:08 PM
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We need Miami to be UVA (but I could see an upset). UNC is going to beat GT. They seem to be able actually beat the teams they are better than soundly (imagine that!). Our game with FSU is going to be tough, but we've just got to keep up with UNC. IF (and that's a big IF) that happens, then at the end of day Tuesday you have the three way tiebreaker
UVA 8-5 2-1
NCSU 8-5 1-1
UNC 8-5 1-2
UVA would still hold the tiebreaker, but we could edge ever so closer to 3rd place. I don't feel good about it though. No reason to think we are better than FSU if we scrape by lesser ACC teams. |
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Posted: 2/16/2013 10:11 PM
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UVA has the toughest schedule the rest of the way including @Miami, Duke, Maryland. UNC still has Duke, us and @maryland
Last edited 2/16/2013 10:13 PM by BSPack
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Posted: 2/16/2013 10:31 PM
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wolfer79 wrote:
ONLYNCSU1 wrote: How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet? should UVA come in front of Virginia Tech Um yes if they were tied and you were listing them alphabetically. Just like NC State comes before University of North Carolina alphabetically.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:04 AM
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jrauman wrote:We need Miami to be UVA (but I could see an upset). UNC is going to beat GT. They seem to be able actually beat the teams they are better than soundly (imagine that!). Our game with FSU is going to be tough, but we've just got to keep up with UNC. IF (and that's a big IF) that happens, then at the end of day Tuesday you have the three way tiebreaker
UVA 8-5 2-1
NCSU 8-5 1-1
UNC 8-5 1-2
UVA would still hold the tiebreaker, but we could edge ever so closer to 3rd place. I don't feel good about it though. No reason to think we are better than FSU if we scrape by lesser ACC teams. I just don't see UVA winning at Miami. State should beat FSU in the PNC, but we've been in close games with everyone recently. GT has improved IMO. I think that may be a tough game in Atlanta for Carolina. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:07 AM
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ONLYNCSU1 wrote: How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet? BINGO!!!! |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:02 AM
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michael924 wrote:
ONLYNCSU1 wrote: How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet? BINGO!!!! should UVA come in front of Virginia Tech should unc-ch University of Maryland University of Virginia University of Miami
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:14 AM
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wolfer79 wrote:
michael924 wrote:
ONLYNCSU1 wrote: How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet? BINGO!!!! should UVA come in front of Virginia Tech
should
unc-ch
University of Maryland
University of Virginia
University of Miami Winning trumps alphabet. NCSU can/should take care of that down the stretch. UNC admin is like the cat trying to cover a fresh one in the full litter box....Every stroke of the paw reveals another turd.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:53 AM
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wolfer79 wrote:
michael924 wrote:
ONLYNCSU1 wrote: How does UNIVERSITY of North Carolina come before NORTH Carolina State University in the alphabet? BINGO!!!! should UVA come in front of Virginia Tech
should
unc-ch
University of Maryland
University of Virginia
University of Miami yes it should. yes they should; alphabetically speaking.
2.23.13...BEAT THE CHEATS!!!
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:42 AM
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Looking at the conference standings from a standpoint of road wins(+1) vs home losses(-1) reveals:
Miami +6 (Wins at GaTech, NCar, BC, VaTech, NC State and FlaSt)
Duke +3 (Wins at Wake Forest,FlaSt, BC)
Virginia +2 (Wins at Va Tech, Maryland)
NC State +1 (Wins at BC, Clemson) (L vs Miami)
NCar +1 (Wins at FlaSt, BC)(L vs Miami)
Fla State 0 (Wins at Clemson, Maryland, GaTech) (L vs NCar, Duke, Miami)
Maryland -1 (L to Virginia, FlaSt) (Win at VaTech)
Clemson -1 (L to Fla State, NC State) (Win at GaTech)
Ga Tech -2 (L to Miami, Va Tech, FlaSt, Clemson) (Win at VaTech, Wake Forest)
Wake Forest -2 (L to Duke, Ga Tech)
Boston College -3 (L to NC State, Miami, NCar, Duke) (W at Va Tech)
Va Tech -4 (L to BC, Virginia, Miami, Maryland, GaTech) (W at Ga Tech)
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:40 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Every online ACC standings I have seen lists State ahead of UNC*  From the ACC website: | As Of February 17) | | School | Conf. | Pct. | Overall | Pct. | | Miami | 11-0 | 1.000 | 20-3 | .870 | | Duke | 9-3 | .750 | 22-3 | .880 | | Virginia | 8-4 | .667 | 18-7 | .720 | | NC State | 7-5 | .583 | 18-7 | .720 | | North Carolina | 7-5 | .583 | 17-8 | .680 | | Maryland | 6-6 | .500 | 18-7 | .720 | | Florida State | 6-6 | .500 | 14-11 | .560 | | Clemson | 5-7 | .417 | 13-11 | .542 | | Georgia Tech | 4-8 | .333 | 14-10 | .583 | | Wake Forest | 4-9 | .308 | 11-14 | .440 | | Boston College | 3-9 | .250 | 11-14 | .440 | | Virginia Tech | 2-10 | .167 | 11-14 | .440 |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:43 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
^ I think our overall record is why we are listed ahead of UNC*
Also same for Maryland/Fla St.
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Last edited 2/17/2013 12:45 PM by Treyvon
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Posted: 2/17/2013 1:15 PM
RE: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
wolfer, thanks for keeping the list up. I will leave the alphabet in your hands.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 1:17 PM
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^^We also have a win over them for the tiebreaker...that changes if they beat us in their barn.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 1:39 PM
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Treyvon wrote: ^ I think our overall record is why we are listed ahead of UNC*
Also same for Maryland/Fla St. Florida State has beaten Maryland twice. 65-62 January 9 in College Park 73-71 January 30 in Tallahassee If we are going to use tiebreakers, have to use all of them. 
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 2/17/2013 1:40 PM
Re: ACC MBB conference standings and the week ahead
Life long Wolfpack Fan....Alumni Class of 1989
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Posted: 2/17/2013 3:25 PM
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jrauman - I think you are a UNC fan. Pskunk exposed you on the State game thread. Over 700 posts on inside carolina and only 40 here? Bashing the State fanbase for our criticism of officiating? Now this. You say UNC is going to beat GT because they beat teams they're better than. But didn't they lose to Texas by, like, 20? They also lost to UVa... are they worse than UVa? And you're suggesting that we're going to have trouble "keeping up" with UNC? Seriously? They've got 5 very losable games on their schedule. Including GT. You seriously don't think we're better than FSU? They have losses to South Alabama, Mercer and Auburn. Auburn, for crying out loud! They lost to rival Florida on their home court by about 30! They scored 36 points against UVa, and lost to Wake Forest by 25! And you think they're better than us? Dude, you are exposed. Turn in your NC State card. jrauman wrote:We need Miami to be UVA (but I could see an upset). UNC is going to beat GT. They seem to be able actually beat the teams they are better than soundly (imagine that!). Our game with FSU is going to be tough, but we've just got to keep up with UNC. IF (and that's a big IF) that happens, then at the end of day Tuesday you have the three way tiebreaker
UVA 8-5 2-1
NCSU 8-5 1-1
UNC 8-5 1-2
UVA would still hold the tiebreaker, but we could edge ever so closer to 3rd place. I don't feel good about it though. No reason to think we are better than FSU if we scrape by lesser ACC teams. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 3:26 PM
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One down, two to go. packnplay wrote: Actually, I think we have a realistic shot at catching Duke for second. If we win out (which is at the very least quite possible). Remember, Duke was one blown no-call away from losing at BC. It's not like they just blow everyone out. Besides, I think they're going to start cooling down just a bit after peaking against us in the first half. They weren't that good against UNC.
Duke's remaining schedule:
@ Md - this one could be a loss for Duke. Big emotional win followed by going on the road against a team that hates you, and has talent. Duke should win, but they could lose.
@ VT - win
BC - win
@ UVa - definitely a losable game for Duke
Miami - same
VT - win
@UNC - definitely losable, as we saw the other night
Are we likely to catch Duke? No. But it is not outside the realm of possibility; only 3 games between us.
If we tie them, we split head-to-head. Is the next tie-breaker determined by which of the two lost to the highest rated team?
RedTerrors wrote: We are better off if Dook and Miami go ahead and win out, because we ain't catching them, unless they lose out....plus it helps our RPI.
Getting to 3rd place would be a very nice achievement given where we find ourselves mid-conference. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:05 PM
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I'm an NCSU alumn ('93). Married to a UNC grad ('92/'94). Proudly wear my NCSU colors and enjoy every single UNC loss almost as much as an NCSU win (although I have to be nice around the spouse) I enjoy discussing hoops with other fanbases (in a civil manner). Re: my comments. I've not seen any evidence that the FSU game will be anything but a close game and a last second decision. Wish it were otherwise, but I'm not going to fool myself into thinking it's a easy win for NCSU over FSU. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:07 PM
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BTW, something happened to my account a few years ago, and all my history dating back to the early days of this board went away (yet all my IC history remained). That explains why my IC count is higher, FWIW. Go Pack!
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