Big Richard has committed some dumb fouls however, he does have very quick hands for a man his size!

Simpson also called Leslie for his 4th in the OK. State game and the technical that was his 5th.

LiveWolvesinUnitards wrote: Lamont "Big Dummy" Simpson called 2/3 of his foul out games.

crusherl wrote:

packfan01 wrote: Which one of these crews are ACC?  I don't know enough names to know.

Howell's Fouls
Miami, OH -- 2 (Officials: Sean Casady, Louie Andrakakos, Ray Natili)
Penn St. -- 2 (Officials: John Hughes, Bret Smith, Rick Crawford)
UMass -- 4 (Officials: Kipp Kissinger, Rod Dixon, Mark Schnur)
Ok. St -- 5 (Officials: Kipp Kissinger, Gerry Pollard, Lamont Simpson)
UNCA -- 2 (Officials: Ray Perone, Tim Comer, Les Jones)
Michigan -- 5 (Officials: Ted Valentine, Terry Wymer, Lamont Simpson)
UConn -- 0 (Officials: Ed Corbett, Bryan Kersey, Tony Greene)
Clev. St. -- 1 (Officials: Sean Casady, Tim Comer, William Humes)
Norfolk St -- 3 (Officials: Bill Covington Jr., Les Jones, Frank Raposo)
Stanford -- 3 (Officials: Chris Rastatter, Jeff Wooten, Joe Derosa)
St. Bonn. -- 5 (Officials: Sean Hull, Tim Kelly, Mike Eades)

ACC Refs: Ray Natili, Les Jones, Ed Corbett, Bryan Kersey, Sean Hull, Tim Kelly, Mike Eades

Today's crew was the only all ACC crew so far.

WMU game:

Howell fouls out.

Officials: Earl Walton(Big East/MAAC), Roger Ayers(ACC), John Gaffney(Big East/America East).

Technically a Big East crew today as Ayers also does Big East.

Just watched glimpses of the game, but saw two of his fouls.  One was where he tapped a rebound near the end of the first half, no contact.  It was an awful call, not sure what they could've possibly seen.  The second was on a shot by a WM player where Leslie made a tremendous block, but a foul was called on Howell just before the block.  The replay didn't give a good angle, but it appeared ticky tack at best.

You're welcome.

Just mark this website as a favorite and revisit when you need to check, um, 'tendencies'.

Everyone gets ticky tack call. It's the nature of the game. It's the needless reach in fouls that compound it and both of his last 2 fouls were on completely unnecessary reach ins.

Anyone have the foul/foul differential between ACC teams?  It shows the fouls/foul shots for each team and their differential for the last ~10 years.

I love the one in the 2nd half where the WMU defender cam around Howell and slapped his arm down at the elbow to dislodge the ball with no call and Howell barely touches the other guy trying to get the ball back and is called.

EuroWolf wrote: Just watched glimpses of the game, but saw two of his fouls.  One was where he tapped a rebound near the end of the first half, no contact.  It was an awful call, not sure what they could've possibly seen.  The second was on a shot by a WM player where Leslie made a tremendous block, but a foul was called on Howell just before the block.  The replay didn't give a good angle, but it appeared ticky tack at best.

Howell final four was BS.  It looked like the ref blew the whistle, then knew he made a mistake and couldn't the foul on CJ.  So he just found the nearest body and it was Howell.

crusherl wrote: I love the one in the 2nd half where the WMU defender cam around Howell and slapped his arm down at the elbow to dislodge the ball with no call and Howell barely touches the other guy trying to get the ball back and is called.

That was just a joke. For whatever reason the official just didn't want to call the obvious foul on the WMU player. WMU was a lot more physical than State. If fouls had been called the same way at both ends of the vourt, I think there would have been 2 or 3 WMU players fouling out. Their 2 bigs made fairly hard fouls virtually everytime down the court. We just need fouls called the same way.

9mariowilliams90 wrote:

EuroWolf wrote: Just watched glimpses of the game, but saw two of his fouls.  One was where he tapped a rebound near the end of the first half, no contact.  It was an awful call, not sure what they could've possibly seen.  The second was on a shot by a WM player where Leslie made a tremendous block, but a foul was called on Howell just before the block.  The replay didn't give a good angle, but it appeared ticky tack at best.

Howell final four was BS.  It looked like the ref blew the whistle, then knew he made a mistake and couldn't the foul on CJ.  So he just found the nearest body and it was Howell.

It was a total phantom. Welcome to the world of Richard Howell, profiling victem.

Last two fouls should have been on Wood and Leslie. Instead since Richard was in the vicinity, he must have been the guilty party.

12 games
Howell has fouled out of 4 games

Steven1974 wrote: Last two fouls should have been on Wood and Leslie. Instead since Richard was in the vicinity, he must have been the guilty party.

The last foul shouldn't have been called at all. Howell didn't touch him and Leslie got a clean block. By a mile.

after 13 games, all non-conference
4 games fouled out

Not sure how we ended up with Doug Shows and Doug Sirmons for the unc-g game.Two of the better refs out there,imo.

26 total fouls in 40 minutes   Thats my kind of bball.

^ Agree, we always point out incompetence.....yeserday was a well called game.

My only complaint was they let the big lefty #13 walk almost everytime he got the ball, but the game flowed great & was over in 1:45.

gravis wrote:
^ Always have & always will point out incompetence by officials in our games & others. Eades, Luckie, Kersay, Ayers Hess, and a couple others are just poor referees that think they are the show & need to be replaced.

Poor calls will not show up on any stat sheet. One example is Rich's 2nd foul (I think), sure he slapped at the ball & techically I guess you could call a foul, but St Bonnie gained no advantange (Rich didnt dislodge the ball).....the best call (and one most competent refs would make) is to let it go & let the game continue.

In today's game (not just Rich) there is callable contact on almost every play. Rich & others on other teams seem to get much more than their share of arbitrary calls. Therein lies the issue.

This is exactly how I see the games played.  This just does not only happen to State.  I see this happen more in ACC games than in other games across the country.  Biggest problem is very seldom do these type calls go against a team in blue.

The way the game is called is completely different from how it was called in the 60's, 70's and even early 80's.   I don't agree with the "no advantage gained no call".  That only gives the official more lee way to control the outcome of a game.  A foul should be a foul and the players should have to adjust. This will never happen because then the officials would have to be much more blatant to affect the outcome of the game.  The way it stands now an official has too much discretion as to what  "gains an advantage".

after 14 games
4 games fouled out

1 ACC game
0 games fouled out

wolfer79 wrote: after 14 games
4 games fouled out

1 ACC game
0 games fouled out

lol

There were two bad calls on that BC dunk (3 point play) at the end of the game. Richard Howell was in great position for the rebound but was pushed in the back (no call) leaving an uncontested dunk. Then Purvis gets too close to the BC player, didn't touch him, foul called on Purvis for 3 point play, cutting the lead to 1.

Les Jones just told them to play ball.

after 15 games
4 games fouled out

2 ACC games
0 games fouled out

and for those who keep up with such things
Georgia Tech game:
Officials: James Luckie, Ray Natili, Sean Hull

Steven1974 wrote:

Denverpacker wrote: Please.  He knows the drill and still made some stupid fouls.  His reputation precedes him and that will not change.  He needs to get smarter.

There shouldn't be a reputation they are calling from though. Call what's happening on the court, not what you might think is happening cause of "tendancies".

Exactly.  This officiating based on "tendancies" is bull ****.  It's hurting the reputation of the ACC and hurting ACC teams in the NCAA tournament when they have to adapt to refs who are calling the game based on what is actually going on in front of them right now.

after 16 games
4 games fouled out

3 ACC games
0 games fouled out

after 17 games
4 games fouled out

4 ACC games
0 games fouled out

but Howell did have 4 fouls last night when the entire team total was 9.
And one of those was a foul we opted to take at the end of the game.
i did not get to watch the game. not sure if 4 fouls limited Howell's time on court.
but on a night when the refs swallowed the whistles,
they managed to call 4 on Howell.

wolfer79 wrote: after 17 games
4 games fouled out

4 ACC games
0 games fouled out

He did get the charge call early in the game where in the past he would probably been called for 2 fouls on a play like that.

packfather wrote: but Howell did have 4 fouls last night when the entire team total was 9.
And one of those was a foul we opted to take at the end of the game.
i did not get to watch the game. not sure if 4 fouls limited Howell's time on court.
but on a night when the refs swallowed the whistles,
they managed to call 4 on Howell.

wolfer79 wrote: after 17 games
4 games fouled out

4 ACC games
0 games fouled out

played 36 minutes per box score
Brown played 38
Leslie 37

after 18 games
4 games fouled out

5 ACC games
0 games fouled out

after 19 games
5 games fouled out

6 ACC games
1 games fouled

after 20 games
5 games fouled out

7 ACC games
1 games fouled out

I guess the refs have found that Howell tends to foul less than he used to.

after 21 games
5 games fouled out

8 ACC games
1 games fouled out

I have noticed that Howell actually is not making all the stupid fouls 39 feet from the basket that he made in previous years. He is one of my all time favorite players. If I had to pick an all star team he would certainly be on it

His dumb 3 point foul this game was costly. Caused gott to take him out in the second half, where Vandenberg promptly gave up a few scores and fumbled some easy passes that would have been missed layups by Howell.

criticalproblems wrote: His dumb 3 point foul this game was costly. Caused gott to take him out in the second half, where Vandenberg promptly gave up a few scores and fumbled some easy passes that would have been missed layups by Howell.

There was no 3 point play. The UVA player missed them all.

The foul was not costly, as Howell played 38 minutes, and Vandenberg played 3 minutes.

dapack1974 wrote: I have noticed that Howell actually is not making all the stupid fouls 39 feet from the basket that he made in previous years. He is one of my all time favorite players. If I had to pick an all star team he would certainly be on it

he's done a great job on that this year. I can't recall that happening much this year except of course at the end of the 1st half of the UVA game tonight. Last year it was pretty much every game he'd have some reach in foul 30 feet from the basket.

after 22 games
5 games fouled out

9 ACC games
1 games fouled out

Steven1974 wrote:

Denverpacker wrote: Please.  He knows the drill and still made some stupid fouls.  His reputation precedes him and that will not change.  He needs to get smarter.

There shouldn't be a reputation they are calling from though. Call what's happening on the court, not what you might think is happening cause of "tendancies". Using other conference refs, they don't seem to see anything wrong with what he's doing and they have no reputation to go on. Clearly there is a problem here and I don't think it's Richard most of the time.

Right.  And thugs with racist tattoos should get treated the same as little old ladies with blue hair.  Ain't going to happen.  And NC State fans should be smart enough to know that the same refs that work our games also work SEC, and Southern Conference, and Big East, and more.  There are NO ACC refs.  Try to get that into your little brain.  Howell has gotten better, but he and a couple of others on the team just can't avoid picking up DUMB fouls every now and then. But people who make DUMB posts might not see that.

The way I saw it Johnson pushed Howell on his tip in or he would have been position to either rebound or tap the ball out.  Just a little push but that was all it took to establish position.  Am I the only one to think he pushed Howell?