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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:40 AM
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That's completely unfair to O'Brien and you should apologize. There was nothing mediocre about O'Brien. I'd love to see you say that to "the Marine's" face. NeverQuitPacker wrote:
DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? I hear he and Lee Folwer meet a couple of times every week to talk about the good 'ol days when mediocrity was king.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:47 AM
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DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? You mean you've not heard of all the plum jobs that TOB can jump to... Oops, that's right. No one wants him.
That's telling. LOL. He said on numerous occasions that this was his final job, no matter the outcome. But please, carry on. You are entertaining, in a circus midget sort of way. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:48 AM
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Over the last 20 years who has left here and lit a fire elsewhere? one baseball coach to SC, and ....no one... thats telling.
Holtz did decades ago and a few others we ran off.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:00 AM
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bornredandwhite wrote: That's completely unfair to O'Brien and you should apologize.
There was nothing mediocre about O'Brien.
I'd love to see you say that to "the Marine's" face.
NeverQuitPacker wrote:
DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? I hear he and Lee Folwer meet a couple of times every week to talk about the good 'ol days when mediocrity was king. By all acounts he is a first class person and I respect his service to our country as a Marine. But as a COACH, he has a career conference record of 59 wins and 60 losses. He was 22-26 here at State. Professionally, he was the epitome of mediocre. -------
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:03 AM
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PackMentality87 wrote:
NeverQuitPacker wrote:
DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? I hear he and Lee Folwer meet a couple of times every week to talk about the good 'ol days when mediocrity was king.
It was time for a change, but let it go guys. Mock Jed all you want, but I don't see any reason to mock TOB. Good man, got our academic standing with the team in order, ran an ethical program and poked UNC with a sharp stick. We now have what we wanted, a promising young high-ceiling coach. Thread should have ended right here. Show some class. ___________________________________________________________________
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:12 AM
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Reed has apparently been hired by Clemson The Wolfpacker @ TheWolfpackerClemson has hired one of the Wolfpack's former assistant coaches:http://clemson.rivals.com
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:35 AM
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Great news for coach Reed!!!
Hope the other coaches land on their feet soon.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:53 AM
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willembahh wrote: Does Wal Mart still have greeters? I am NOT training those guys. The greeters would probably stay at least 15 yards away from all the customers. You are 2 for 2 on this thread, hun. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:57 AM
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wolfpackpastor wrote: It is VERY telling to me that after all of this none of our staff have gotten picked up by other schools. That should speak VOLUMES to anyone who debated whether a change was needed. Maybe a few of the staff will eventually pick up jobs at FCS type schools. Good job. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:06 AM
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Posted: 12/26/2012 10:45 PM
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Anymore news on the current staff landing other positions?
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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:20 PM
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Troy Walters has been hired as wide receivers coach at Colorado. Source: footballscoop.com/the-scoop |
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:17 PM
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It's been mentioned on other threads, but just to keep the info all in once place, O'Brien and Tenuta are now associate head coaches at UVA.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:56 PM
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It's been mentioned on other threads, but just to keep the info all in once place, O'Brien and Tenuta are now associate head coaches at UVA.
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I thought this was funny, considering how we payed an egg against them this year. That was the worst played/coached football game from us that I'd ever seen. UVA won its first ACC game that night and we couldnt do anything on offense or defense. I left in the third quarter and was one of the few remaining fans. That game, more than any other (even the Carolina game) made me want TOB gone.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 9:20 AM
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Who from the old staff is still yet to find a job?
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Posted: 1/8/2013 9:37 AM
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Reminds me of CTC and Akron aawolf wrote:
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It's been mentioned on other threads, but just to keep the info all in once place, O'Brien and Tenuta are now associate head coaches at UVA.
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I thought this was funny, considering how we payed an egg against them this year. That was the worst played/coached football game from us that I'd ever seen. UVA won its first ACC game that night and we couldnt do anything on offense or defense. I left in the third quarter and was one of the few remaining fans. That game, more than any other (even the Carolina game) made me want TOB gone. |
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Posted: 1/8/2013 10:58 AM
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bornredandwhite wrote: That's completely unfair to O'Brien and you should apologize.
There was nothing mediocre about O'Brien.
I'd love to see you say that to "the Marine's" face.
NeverQuitPacker wrote:
DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? I hear he and Lee Folwer meet a couple of times every week to talk about the good 'ol days when mediocrity was king. nothing mediocre other than his teams bornredandwhite. |
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:37 AM
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bornredandwhite wrote: That's completely unfair to O'Brien and you should apologize.
There was nothing mediocre about O'Brien.
I'd love to see you say that to "the Marine's" face.
NeverQuitPacker wrote:
DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? I hear he and Lee Folwer meet a couple of times every week to talk about the good 'ol days when mediocrity was king. He wouldn't dare...... Because Major Tom eats Constantan wire and pisses napalm..and he can put a round through a flea's *** at a 100 meters.... |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:38 AM
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It is VERY telling to me that after all of this none of our staff have gotten picked up by other schools. That should speak VOLUMES to anyone who debated whether a change was needed. Maybe a few of the staff will eventually pick up jobs at FCS type schools.
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Let's see, so far of the 10 on the staff, six have found positions on other staffs.
O'Brien - UVa
Tenuta - UVa
Bridge - Illinois
Walters - Colorado
Reed - Clemson
Kitchings - NC State
Those still without positions:
Bible
Archer
Petercuskie
Willis
A KDKA individual reported last night that Archer interviewed with Chryst at Pitt for their DC position. A position he had interest in last season. So you may have another member of the old staff in the conference next year.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:41 AM
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Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. I always thought he was a solid d line coach.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:46 AM
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Planet Boulder wrote: I expect Petercuskie and Archer to land plum jobs somewhere - just not in coaching. you offering an over /under on that unless someone has a position for stupid yankee with no understanding of football
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Posted: 1/30/2013 12:59 PM
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So, Bible and Archer have not found new positions yet. I'm really not mocking their misfortune and I do hope they land on their feet. But I have to say, with much sarcasm, what a SHOCKER!
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:06 PM
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TruthBKnownReturns wrote: So, Bible and Archer have not found new positions yet. I'm really not mocking their misfortune and I do hope they land on their feet. But I have to say, with much sarcasm, what a SHOCKER! I think Bible has a contract with NC State that runs until June 2014. He is 59 years old and a cancer survivor. I can understand if he is not calling, emailing or tweeting about every opening right now.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:17 PM
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wrcwolf wrote:
Those still without positions:
Bible
Archer
Petercuskie
Willis
A KDKA individual reported last night that Archer interviewed with Chryst at Pitt for their DC position. A position he had interest in last season. So you may have another member of the old staff in the conference next year. Thanks for the updates! I hope for Archer that he gets that job. That'd be a win/win for all parties. Archer would get employed again and do so in Pittsburgh, a city where he's been before. Hopefully we no longer have to pay a buy out. It remains to be seen how Archer would perform against our offense long term. Having said that, one cannot ignore the fact that the coaches in the most important positions on the staff -- recruiting coordinator, OC, DC, special teams -- still haven't found positions. Now, Bible has health concerns so I'll give him a pass (and I also thought he was the best of the lot). The other two though are indicative of why TOB didn't meet on field expectations. |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:18 PM
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RT @ mikevukkdka: Sources tell me that Paul Chryst has interviewed Mike Archer for the vacant DC job. Archer was recently with NC State. |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:25 PM
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jds0881 wrote: Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. Ohhhhh, I can. Unless he's got a friend or a contact somewhere, he'll be sitting at home watching games on TV next year. As a coach, he still has a lot of work to do. |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:29 PM
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jds0881 wrote: Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. Ohhhhh, I can. Unless he's got a friend or a contact somewhere, he'll be sitting at home watching games on TV next year. As a coach, he still has a lot of work to do. Why?....I always thought his defensive lines were pretty good. Heck I think Tenuta got a lot of pub for how well his lbers play but without the d line covering the o lineman up they do nothing. |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:54 PM
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jds0881 wrote:
Yamahog wrote:
jds0881 wrote: Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. Ohhhhh, I can. Unless he's got a friend or a contact somewhere, he'll be sitting at home watching games on TV next year. As a coach, he still has a lot of work to do. Why?....I always thought his defensive lines were pretty good. Heck I think Tenuta got a lot of pub for how well his lbers play but without the d line covering the o lineman up they do nothing. The guy would sleep through meetings.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:45 PM
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abcfan2005 wrote: Great news for coach Reed!!!
Hope the other coaches land on their feet soon. How do you feel about him now that he's taken two of our recruits? |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:49 PM
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PackCaddy wrote:
jds0881 wrote:
Yamahog wrote:
jds0881 wrote: Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. Ohhhhh, I can. Unless he's got a friend or a contact somewhere, he'll be sitting at home watching games on TV next year. As a coach, he still has a lot of work to do. Why?....I always thought his defensive lines were pretty good. Heck I think Tenuta got a lot of pub for how well his lbers play but without the d line covering the o lineman up they do nothing. The guy would sleep through meetings. Then my next question is why was that allowed and why did TOB not tell him to go kick rocks. |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:45 PM
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PackCaddy wrote:
jds0881 wrote:
Yamahog wrote:
jds0881 wrote: Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. Ohhhhh, I can. Unless he's got a friend or a contact somewhere, he'll be sitting at home watching games on TV next year. As a coach, he still has a lot of work to do. Why?....I always thought his defensive lines were pretty good. Heck I think Tenuta got a lot of pub for how well his lbers play but without the d line covering the o lineman up they do nothing. The guy would sleep through meetings. If true, yet ANOTHER reason TOB is gone. Sad and pathetic.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:46 PM
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abcfan2005 wrote: Great news for coach Reed!!!
Hope the other coaches land on their feet soon. How do you feel about him now that he's taken two of our recruits? We have the opportunity to replace them with better recruits. Time will tell.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:44 PM
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Bridge OL coach at Illinois not TE. They must have liked what they saw...
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:05 PM
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PackCaddy wrote:
jds0881 wrote:
Yamahog wrote:
jds0881 wrote: Honestly I can't believe Willis has not been picked up by someone. Ohhhhh, I can. Unless he's got a friend or a contact somewhere, he'll be sitting at home watching games on TV next year. As a coach, he still has a lot of work to do. Why?....I always thought his defensive lines were pretty good. Heck I think Tenuta got a lot of pub for how well his lbers play but without the d line covering the o lineman up they do nothing. The guy would sleep through meetings. A power nap is good some days.  |
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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:17 PM
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JaegerWolf wrote:
bornredandwhite wrote: That's completely unfair to O'Brien and you should apologize.
There was nothing mediocre about O'Brien.
I'd love to see you say that to "the Marine's" face.
NeverQuitPacker wrote:
DurtyD wrote: Have there been any comments at all from TOB since his firing? I hear he and Lee Folwer meet a couple of times every week to talk about the good 'ol days when mediocrity was king.
By all acounts he is a first class person and I respect his service to our country as a Marine. But as a COACH, he has a career conference record of 59 wins and 60 losses. He was 22-26 here at State. Professionally, he was the epitome of mediocre. Actually 22-26 is BELOW mediocre.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 9:47 AM
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Damn, let it go. O'Brien is off to UVA and we have a new coach. Yet, the same ones who were adamant about the staff being fired still aren't happy. That was predictable though.
Here's a thought - join the Wolfpack Club and support the new coach. Already a member - then make a pledge to give a little more. Or, you can keep crying about how TOB ruined your lives and stole your innocence.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 10:20 AM
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I'm going to defend TOB's record, but only as far as I would defend ANY other coach. People use his overall record at State against him. But you have to remember, when TOB took over, the cupboard was BARE, and only got more bare for a year or two. It takes a while to pull recruiting out of a ditch (not that TOB ever did...) But his first year or two should not be held against him. That's why the 22-26 record alone (or whatever it was) is not necessarily an accurate measuring stick.
I'll give an example. TOB could have won just TWO more games this year, finished with a 24-24 record (still a lousy record, right?) But his last three seasons would have been 9-, 8- and 9-win seasons, respectively. Would anyone REALLY complain about the 24-24 record if that had happened?
This is not a woulda/coulda/shoulda argument supporting TOB. I'm just illustrating that if that had happened, we STILL would have a lousy conference record. Point being, it was more lousy in the first 2-3 years, but improved after that. That record alone is not enough to judge him. Where he started and where he finished is more important.
I'm glad he's gone. I like CDD. I think TOB was stagnating, and had the program heading in the wrong direction. But my opinion about TOB has little to do with his 22-26 record. I realize we suffered some extra losses in his first couple of years for which I do not hold him responsible.
CDD could have a 6-6 record this year (or worse). I sure hope people aren't ready to run HIM out of town if that happens. Football coaches need 3 years minimum before we can accurately judge their job performance.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 11:12 AM
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Then my next question is why was that allowed and why did TOB not tell him to go kick rocks.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 11:54 AM
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Can someone post the ACC records for State football for the past 20 years. It's shocking just how consistently mediocre we've been. Statistically our consistent mediocrity should be near impossible to attain.
As for TOB, great guy and I wish him all the best. I'm sure he wanted to win, but it didn't happen. No ill will from me.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 11:59 AM
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PhoenixWolf wrote: Can someone post the ACC records for State football for the past 20 years. It's shocking just how consistently mediocre we've been. Statistically our consistent mediocrity should be near impossible to attain.
As for TOB, great guy and I wish him all the best. I'm sure he wanted to win, but it didn't happen. No ill will from me. you are someone 
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