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Re: RELEASE: Pack Earns Highest Baseball Preseason Ranking Ever

Posted: 12/29/2012 8:46 PM

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dunlow66 wrote: Any good twitter accounts to follow for info on NC State baseball?

I have always been a casual fan, but last season has pulled me in and I am looking forward to following the Pack 9 all season long.
https://twitter.com/NCStateBaseball
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Posted: 12/29/2012 8:46 PM

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PackChem91 wrote:
KChill wrote: I'd much rather us be under the radar.

Why?   I'd rather the coaching staff to be able to go to HS coaches and players and say, "we are on right track, come join the move to Omaha".
You missed the sarcasm there.  Seems only in basketball is being highly rated in the preseason a bad thing.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 7:15 PM

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ncdoc wrote:
baseball9, I think you will see those power numbers go up this year with the switch away from Nike bats to Louisville Slugger. Almost every coach in the country with a Nike contract complained about the lack of pop in those bats and the numbers upported it.
good luck with louisville slugger...they suck also....we dropped them for Rawlings this year....we had been with LS for 13 or so years.....


fv
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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:57 AM

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Did State have a fall recruiting class?  Haven't seen a peep anywhere about it.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:27 AM

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I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:41 AM

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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.


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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:44 AM

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fvpackman1 wrote:
ncdoc wrote:
baseball9, I think you will see those power numbers go up this year with the switch away from Nike bats to Louisville Slugger. Almost every coach in the country with a Nike contract complained about the lack of pop in those bats and the numbers upported it.
good luck with louisville slugger...they suck also....we dropped them for Rawlings this year....we had been with LS for 13 or so years.....


fv
That may very well be the case but, the players were allowed to use whatever bat they wanted in the Fal and the concensus was that they preferred the Louisville Slugger bats.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:46 AM

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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like it's some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote: I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
It's an incredibly amazing feat. There are only a handful of teams (UT, ASU, FSU come to mind) who might consider Omaha short of an amazing feat -- and I very seriously doubt that.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:53 AM

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Fire Avent!

Wait, never mind. Congrats to the team - hopefully they can live up to and even exceed those lofty expectations.

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Me too. I was tempted to say, well, this will add spice to the Usual Folksily Phrased Excuses when the inevitable **** up happens, but I shall instead simply wish well and hope Avent fully fulfills expectations.

For a change.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:54 AM

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Unfortunately for this otherwise admirable theory, one of the teams that feels otherwise plays in Chapel Hole.
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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like it's some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote: I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
It's an incredibly amazing feat. There are only a handful of teams (UT, ASU, FSU come to mind) who might consider Omaha short of an amazing feat -- and I very seriously doubt that.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:55 AM

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89Gradv2 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.

You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.

"Every single day, in every walk of life, ordinary people do extraordinary things.!!"

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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:06 AM

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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
89Gradv2 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.

You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.
I agree with you about Super Regionals--but if you host a first round regional, you are a no. 1 seed.  If you don't have two pitchers capable of beating any other team in your regional (i.e. making it to day 3 with a 2-0 mark), you probably have no business making it to the Supers (and probably had no business being a No. 1 seed and host).  Again, a preseason top 12 team should have an EXPECTATION of making it to Super Regionals, so if that's all this team accomplishes (again), then I won't be as excited this year...Avent's done that (making it to Super Regionals) with teams a lot worse than this year's...


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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:09 AM

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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
89Gradv2 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.

You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.
I didn't want to put it that way, but, since you did it for me, +1. tongue

WTNY
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Posted: 1/4/2013 11:14 AM

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Pressure is on Avent!!
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I only know a majority of the former players in the pro's and several of the current players personally.  I've also had plenty of dealings with most of the staff including Avent but yeah you are correct I have no knowledge about our team or college baseball.  Maybe I should change my username to include baseball so I will be more legit.  If you guys are happy with zero championships in 16 years then so be it.  Afterall its this mentallity that got NCSU athletics into the shape it is in in the first place. 


NCSUz71 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
89Gradv2 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.

You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.
I didn't want to put it that way, but, since you did it for me, +1. tongue
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Posted: 1/4/2013 1:25 PM

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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I only know a majority of the former players in the pro's and several of the current players personally.  I've also had plenty of dealings with most of the staff including Avent but yeah you are correct I have no knowledge about our team or college baseball.  Maybe I should change my username to include baseball so I will be more legit.  If you guys are happy with zero championships in 16 years then so be it.  Afterall its this mentallity that got NCSU athletics into the shape it is in in the first place. 


The ACC baseball championships format recently has made it less important than any other championship the league offers. That said, UNC only has ONE ACC championship since NCSU's last in 1992.

You guys will have a very good chance to make it to Omaha this year but, I wouldn't consider the year a complete failure if you don't make it there. Should be a fun year of baseball in the ACC as there are several teams with the potential to make the CWS.
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I agree. The tournament format is pretty dumb in my opinion. Especially with teams most likely being very careful with pitchers with the regionals being right after it. We have had some good teams especially here recently. My only beef is we have had a lot of talent to come through here to not have at least lucked up and won the ACC or at least made the CWS once. I don't think those teams with Surkamp and Brackman anchoring the rotation even made the super regional. And heck one is an MLB starter and the other was a first round draft pick.
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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I agree. The tournament format is pretty dumb in my opinion. Especially with teams most likely being very careful with pitchers with the regionals being right after it. We have had some good teams especially here recently. My only beef is we have had a lot of talent to come through here to not have at least lucked up and won the ACC or at least made the CWS once. I don't think those teams with Surkamp and Brackman anchoring the rotation even made the super regional. And heck one is an MLB starter and the other was a first round draft pick.
You guys realize they have changed the tourney format, right?


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Posted: 1/4/2013 3:43 PM

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Yes, starting in 2014 but, that has no barring on recent history.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:01 PM

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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I only know a majority of the former players in the pro's and several of the current players personally.  I've also had plenty of dealings with most of the staff including Avent but yeah you are correct I have no knowledge about our team or college baseball.  Maybe I should change my username to include baseball so I will be more legit.  If you guys are happy with zero championships in 16 years then so be it.  Afterall its this mentallity that got NCSU athletics into the shape it is in in the first place. 


NCSUz71 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote: You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.
I didn't want to put it that way, but, since you did it for me, +1. tongue
That's great and all, but anyone who labels making Omaha "not some amazing feat" doesn't appear to know much about college baseball in my book. If you think you do, that's great.

WTNY

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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:11 PM

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It is hard to fathom how Avent is kept when he has added 0 additional CWS appearance trophies to our current trophy case full of them.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:15 PM

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WickedMojo wrote: Did State have a fall recruiting class?  Haven't seen a peep anywhere about it.
Ask and you shall receive. biggrin Early signing class for the Class of 2013 posted on GoPack today.

Pack Inks 11 Early Signees

Breakdown by state:
North Carolina 5
Florida 2
Virginia 1
Louisiana 1
New Jersey 1
Ohio 1

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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:16 PM

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Pack signs 11 in early signing period

Apologize if this has already been posted, but here is a link

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m.../010413aaa.html
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Posted: 1/4/2013 5:33 PM

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jlowder23 wrote:
NCSUz71 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
+1

With all the money and fan support we put into baseball, anything short of Omaha is a letdown. Avent is a descent coach, but if we don't make it this year, he has to go!!
So you're really patriots and you trolled us all year last year?  Bravo.

tongue hahaha
lol.  good one.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:24 PM

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Who will be the third starter? It seems last year we really didn't have one.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:51 PM

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89Gradv2 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
89Gradv2 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.

You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.
I agree with you about Super Regionals--but if you host a first round regional, you are a no. 1 seed.  If you don't have two pitchers capable of beating any other team in your regional (i.e. making it to day 3 with a 2-0 mark), you probably have no business making it to the Supers (and probably had no business being a No. 1 seed and host).  Again, a preseason top 12 team should have an EXPECTATION of making it to Super Regionals, so if that's all this team accomplishes (again), then I won't be as excited this year...Avent's done that (making it to Super Regionals) with teams a lot worse than this year's...
While being a #1 seed increases your chances of getting to Omaha, and being a national seed strengthens those chances, they aren't guarantees. They are just strong probabilities.

btw, we lost the 2nd game in regionals to Vandy last year. By your statement, we weren't worthy of hosting. Vandy had a very strong team, and by season's end, they were probably ever bit as good as Florida. So were we. We may very well get to Omaha, and if we do we have a great shot at winning it all.

But, if we fall in a deciding game in the SR to a very good team, I am not going to believe we don't have a great team, and a surging program that is on the verge of starting something pretty special. I choose to enjoy it, and not pontificate about failure or success in January.

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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:42 PM

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Looking forward to getting out to a couple games this spring. Pre-season hype for the 3 major sports has to be the highest this year as it has been in a long, long time!
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Posted: 1/5/2013 3:25 AM

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Lost at UGA in the SR with Surkamp on the mound in Game 3. 
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I don't think those teams with Surkamp and Brackman anchoring the rotation even made the super regional. And heck one is an MLB starter and the other was a first round draft pick.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 4:27 AM

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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
89Gradv2 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
89Gradv2 wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I didn't say a thing about last year.  We had a great year last year.  I'm just saying that with all of the talent we have coming back there is no excuse not to make the world series.  I mean hell 8 teams make the CWS so its not like its some amazing feat.  Look at our basketball team.  We made a sweet 16 last year (aka super regional) last year and a lot of people would consider it underacheiving if we don't make it to at least the elite 8 this year.  That is just like us making the CWS.

We have had some minor success the past 5-6 years but when you win ZERO ACC championships and have ZERO CWS appearances in 16 years you are going to face some heat.  We all know who our atheletic director is. 


wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
WolfpackSportsman wrote:
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: If we don't make Omaha this year Avent will probably face some heat.
You sure about that? This is a program that should crap its pants if we get a national seed.
I don't think either of those things are true. If we didn't make the tourney as a fairly high seed, or win a regional I'd think we had a subpar year, but there won't be heat.

We came close to earning a national seed last year with a 9-11 RPI depending on who ya asked.
I'd think this team expects to be one of the top 10 teams in nation this year. If they don't think that, then I've overestimated their competitive drive, because there was great disappointment we didn't beat Florida in the Super Reg.
I agree...this is the year the expectations ramp up.  A team with a preseason ranking in the top 16 should be EXPECTED to routinely host and win a regional.  The next step is making it to Omaha, and Avent teams have not done well in the Super Regionals.

I don't like the guy, because I don't think he's a good ambassador for NC State Athletics.  He was so offensive speaking to the Raleigh Sports Club several years back (I wasn't there, so I don't know what he said) that they put him on "probation" and didn't invite him to speak the next year.  He has a propensity to expound on his very conservative political views (sort of like some posters on here) in inappropriate contexts.

You both do realize that getting to the CWS is a tad more difficult than getting to the sweet sixteen in basketball, yes?

You need to win 2 games against two opponents to reach the sweet sixteen.
In baseball, you have to win a minimum of 3 games (took us 4 last year) just to reach the Super Regionals. Then, you have to beat a team that is qualified to be there, and it isn't a 40 minute game on one day, it's a best of 3 over a weekend.

It's the most difficult thing in college sports to achieve IMO. There are so many variables, like Rodon not being able to pitch because of weather last year. A hot pitcher on the other side, 1 error that cane cause multiple runs in. You miss a shot in basketball, or turn it over, the most it's gonna do is score 2 or 3 points. In baseball, that one mistake canlead to 3, 4, or more runs.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how deeply you follow our baseball team or college baseball if you think getting to Omaha is easy.
I agree with you about Super Regionals--but if you host a first round regional, you are a no. 1 seed.  If you don't have two pitchers capable of beating any other team in your regional (i.e. making it to day 3 with a 2-0 mark), you probably have no business making it to the Supers (and probably had no business being a No. 1 seed and host).  Again, a preseason top 12 team should have an EXPECTATION of making it to Super Regionals, so if that's all this team accomplishes (again), then I won't be as excited this year...Avent's done that (making it to Super Regionals) with teams a lot worse than this year's...
While being a #1 seed increases your chances of getting to Omaha, and being a national seed strengthens those chances, they aren't guarantees. They are just strong probabilities.

btw, we lost the 2nd game in regionals to Vandy last year. By your statement, we weren't worthy of hosting. Vandy had a very strong team, and by season's end, they were probably ever bit as good as Florida. So were we. We may very well get to Omaha, and if we do we have a great shot at winning it all.

But, if we fall in a deciding game in the SR to a very good team, I am not going to believe we don't have a great team, and a surging program that is on the verge of starting something pretty special. I choose to enjoy it, and not pontificate about failure or success in January.


If memory serves......... we got hosed on the draw - it was very tough road to Omaha last year.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 6:37 AM

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ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I only know a majority of the former players in the pro's and several of the current players personally.  I've also had plenty of dealings with most of the staff including Avent but yeah you are correct I have no knowledge about our team or college baseball.

90packgrad wrote: Lost at UGA in the SR with Surkamp on the mound in Game 3. 
ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: I don't think those teams with Surkamp and Brackman anchoring the rotation even made the super regional. And heck one is an MLB starter and the other was a first round draft pick.
should I believe 90packgrad who was at the Athens Super Regional and Gopack.com THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF NC STATE ATHLETICS, game recap or ncsuwolfpack13 ?

maybe the official website of San Francisco Giants, will have information
no starts in 2012 for Surkamp, missed entire season due to injury

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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