Will he break Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record?

The record is 2,105 and AP has 1,812 with two games left.

Needs to average 150 yards the last two games.

wolfpack05 wrote: Will he break Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record?

The record is 2,105 and AP has 1812 with two games left.

Hope he does it.

Dickerson doesn't want him to break it. Good for him. Still hope AP does.

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He's had an amazing season by any measure, but considering that he just came back from that terrible knee injury, it's even more impressive. One of the few football players I would pay to see.

I was really rooting for him to hit 2000 yards.. didn't think he had a shot at 2105.. but I will be pulling for him to do it. What a story. As a side note, would probably snatch the Comeback Player of the Year award from Payton.

I don't think it's a big deal. I mean, so what if he does? Will they just give him 40-50 carries the last game until he gets it? Just so he can say he has the record?

I always hate it when people do that....it's not a career record, it's just one season.

xCainx wrote: I don't think it's a big deal. I mean, so what if he does? Will they just give him 40-50 carries the last game until he gets it? Just so he can say he has the record?

I always hate it when people do that....it's not a career record, it's just one season.

it is not a big deal that he might break a record that has stood for 28 years in a day and age where teams are going running back by committee in addition to the fact that he is coming off an ACL injury the prior year?

I dont think he quite catches the record

Maybe not. Did they play 16 games a year 28 years ago? Defenses clearly have more restrictions on them. How many carries does he have compared to Dickerson?

I look at this like when Emmitt Smith used to carry it in the last game until he got the rushing title. When Barry Sanders had a chance to stay in the game to get it...,he declined.

Minnesota is 8-6....So what AP gets it if his team loses?

Whatever ....I don't care. Good for him. AP seems like a like a good guy.

xCainx wrote: Maybe not. Did they play 16 games a year 28 years ago? Defenses clearly have more restrictions on them. How many carries does he have compared to Dickerson?

I look at this like when Emmitt Smith used to carry it in the last game until he got the rushing title. When Barry Sanders had a chance to stay in the game to get it...,he declined.

Minnesota is 8-6....So what AP gets it if his team loses?

Whatever ....I don't care. Good for him. AP seems like a like a good guy.

At this point he has less carries and is averaging quite a bit more per carry than Eric DICKerson through 14 games.

First off, I dont think he breaks it.

Though I wonder if he does break it, will people be up in arms when they find out he and others have used HGH, steroids and other illegal substances to recover from injury and perform at the NFL level? In my opinion this will become an issue for the NFL at some point. Will we look at NFL record breakers the same way we look at Bonds and McGwire?

psupack wrote: First off, I dont think he breaks it.

Though I wonder if he does break it, will people be up in arms when they find out he and others have used HGH, steroids and other illegal substances to recover from injury and perform at the NFL level? In my opinion this will become an issue for the NFL at some point. Will we look at NFL record breakers the same way we look at Bonds and McGwire?

Did anyone care that DICKerson was probably one of the highest paid college athletes of his time and broke every amateur rule known to man before going to the NFL? Yeah I didn't think so.

hunwolf wrote:

psupack wrote: First off, I dont think he breaks it.

Though I wonder if he does break it, will people be up in arms when they find out he and others have used HGH, steroids and other illegal substances to recover from injury and perform at the NFL level? In my opinion this will become an issue for the NFL at some point. Will we look at NFL record breakers the same way we look at Bonds and McGwire?

Did anyone care that DICKerson was probably one of the highest paid college athletes of his time and broke every amateur rule known to man before going to the NFL? Yeah I didn't think so.

At the time? I don't recall. I was between 2 and 6 months old that season. Regardless, that is not a performance enhancing issue. That didn't have any influence on that season or his NFL career.

Who is AP?

hunwolf wrote:

psupack wrote: First off, I dont think he breaks it.

Though I wonder if he does break it, will people be up in arms when they find out he and others have used HGH, steroids and other illegal substances to recover from injury and perform at the NFL level? In my opinion this will become an issue for the NFL at some point. Will we look at NFL record breakers the same way we look at Bonds and McGwire?

Did anyone care that DICKerson was probably one of the highest paid college athletes of his time and broke every amateur rule known to man before going to the NFL? Yeah I didn't think so.

Not really.  I never really cared for him either way to be honest.

M-V-P.

And Dickerson was different than many other college players in what way?

The record of 2105 came in the Pro's where getting paid was legal.  It still stands even if people don't like him.

I think the AP comeback story is one of the most incredible in NFL history.  If he breaks it, I say he get's both comeback player and player of the year.

LetsGoState wrote: M-V-P.

Should be, but they'll give it to Peyton

Adrian Peterson RB for Minnesota.

PackMan97 wrote: Who is AP?

There is a slight difference between Dickerson and Peterson in terms of character. I'll just leave it at that.

xCainx wrote: Maybe not. Did they play 16 games a year 28 years ago? Defenses clearly have more restrictions on them. How many carries does he have compared to Dickerson?

I look at this like when Emmitt Smith used to carry it in the last game until he got the rushing title. When Barry Sanders had a chance to stay in the game to get it...,he declined.

Minnesota is 8-6....So what AP gets it if his team loses?

Whatever ....I don't care. Good for him. AP seems like a like a good guy.

Played just as many games, and offenses run the ball much less now than when ED was in his prime. If Peterson breaks the record, I think he will be a hall of famer when his career is over, LOCK for the HOF. Look at his stats compared to other HOF runners. AP is averaging almost 100 yards per game for his career. He had over 200 today and is closing in on 2000 for the season.

hunwolf wrote: There is a slight difference between Dickerson and Peterson in terms of character. I'll just leave it at that.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that at all.   I've heard the same.

AP's return from the knee is what makes this all the more incredible.  He's as good as he was before.  Never seen that...

...but Minnesota might not make the playoffs, .....so isn't it a very minor thing to get the record in the scheme of that?

xCainx wrote: ...but Minnesota might not make the playoffs, .....so isn't it a very minor thing to get the record in the scheme of that?

No, because it's an individual record.

In today's pass happy NFL 2,000 yards rushing is a tremendous accomplishment.

xCainx wrote: ...but Minnesota might not make the playoffs, .....so isn't it a very minor thing to get the record in the scheme of that?

I can see your point, but it's not like he's being run 40 times a game at this point.  He's breaking of 82 yard TD's back to back after major knee surgery.

Fans dont really care about that surprisingly, atleast not with the NFL.  It's really funny how fans/sports react to drug culture.  In the NFL, the NFLPA wants absolutely nothing to do with drug testing and basically is only opening up to bare min. testing.  Which as a *private* run organization, probaly makes a whole lot of sense.  You dont want to have your top guys getting popped for doping like you do in other sports that are on a more stringent drug testing procedures.  But it's funny to me to see how people react to dopers.  You look at a cyclists and when they get popped, they are the scum of the earth.  When in the NFL and the mlb gets busted, it's more a *yawner* wait a few weeks and he's back, and then it's almost appreciated he was doing it for the team. 

But in a private run organization like the NFL, it makes no sense for them to really have tough drug standards.  It really would only harm their brand if the tough testing came into the NFL. 

psupack wrote: First off, I dont think he breaks it.

Though I wonder if he does break it, will people be up in arms when they find out he and others have used HGH, steroids and other illegal substances to recover from injury and perform at the NFL level? In my opinion this will become an issue for the NFL at some point. Will we look at NFL record breakers the same way we look at Bonds and McGwire?

I like AP - he's amazing to watch. Would love to see him break the record.

if AP was on the stillers, cain would be wetting his diaper over this.

xCainx wrote: ...but Minnesota might not make the playoffs, .....so isn't it a very minor thing to get the record in the scheme of that?

It makes the record that much more impressive.  He is having a great season as a RB, despite not being on a good team.  Opposing defenses focus on AP, yet still can't stop him.  

You sound really bitter/jealous.

Did you see what the NFL did for Drew Brees when he was passing some TD in a game record?  They allowed someone was is BANNED from the NFL to show up.  And that was for a record that I consider well below any of the big individual awards.  So for a guy to set the single season career rushing record, it's a legit and big deal, and deservedly so. 

xCainx wrote: ...but Minnesota might not make the playoffs, .....so isn't it a very minor thing to get the record in the scheme of that?

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if AP was on the stillers, cain would be wetting his diaper over this.

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Oh us be thrilled ....instead of that wussy crybaby Mendenhall.

But I wouldn't really care if we were missing the playoffs (which we might do already) and he got the record.

It's fine though. Some think its a big deal and that's cool. He seems like a good guy, just seems like a name to stick next to a line in a record book, but that's it.

Also, ...I knew nothing about the Drew Brees thing. What record? Who showed up?

Also, ...I knew nothing about the Drew Brees thing. What record? Who showed up?

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I think it was the td passing in consecutive games that he broke it this year on SNF vs Bolts (funny enough a few weeks ago he broke the streak). NFL/Goddell allowed Payton (banned Saints coach) to show up (he sat in a luxury box), and I think either was on the field congratulating Brees when the record occurred, or before the game.

Consecutive td passes in a game, to me is kinda a *yawner* stat. But the NFL thought it was a big enough deal that it was made a big deal about getting Payton there to watch Brees break the record.

^ Well it was Johnny Unitas' record from the 60s. A hell of a lot of good QBs have come and gone and not broken that record. It was a big deal.

Obviously it was by how the NFL treated it.  But I have to think on the level of records that matter, is probaly a step below the biggest QB records (yards, td's in a season/career).  Would be on par with a baseball record of say hits in a year record.  Great but not the top records that *most* people would recognize/know. 

PaulLasagna wrote: ^ Well it was Johnny Unitas' record from the 60s. A hell of a lot of good QBs have come and gown and not broken that record. It was a big deal.

as a vikings fan, its been awesome to watch AP play this year. sure i want to see us in the playoffs...but whether we get there or not, AP has carried the team on his shoulders.

funny to see some trying to downplay it.

Needs 294 yards. AP's the only offense they have and still nobody can stop him. Averaging 22 carries/164 a game over his last 8 games, he should cruise to about 2,150 yards.

hell yeah, and id keep feeding him the ball. in fact, id just walk to the line and say "ap to the left" and dare them to stop him. dude is good, and i hope he gets it.

ncsuTRIcoach wrote: Obviously it was by how the NFL treated it.  But I have to think on the level of records that matter, is probaly a step below the biggest QB records (yards, td's in a season/career).  Would be on par with a baseball record of say hits in a year record.  Great but not the top records that *most* people would recognize/know. 

PaulLasagna wrote: ^ Well it was Johnny Unitas' record from the 60s. A hell of a lot of good QBs have come and gown and not broken that record. It was a big deal.

#1 I agree, ...this is a ghey stat. 

#2 This isn't really comparable to Unitas day.  QB are prtected like princesses today compared to then, and the DB's used to be able to hold and almost tackle you back then.

...but yeah, ...so what.  There is a stat for every occasion it seems.

I dunno.  If it's becoming the all time passing leader, or all time rushing leader - - ok...but other than that, ...who cares?  Maybe it's just me.