wrcwolf wrote: ^^^ They'll get a waiver. May force the Big East to add another CUSA to get the correct numbers of continuous play, if that passes the requirement. ECU is in a much better position. Especially if UConn, Cincy and Boise St remain.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel with the latest. According to them the A10's Butler and Xavier to get the call from the new conference. Going to 10 or 12. Tournament to rotate sites (possibly opening up MSG for the ACC some yrs?), and would begin play next season (Louisville and ND join the ACC next year?, ND wouldn't be able to honor the 5-game football commitment next year).

www.jsonline.com/sports/golden...151.html?ipad=y

Marquette's new basketball-centric athletic conference will include 10 or 12 teams, have a reasonable television contract and rotating sites for its league tournament, according to university sources.

The Golden Eagles will join six other former members of the Big East: Georgetown, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and Villanova. Butler and Xavier will leave the Atlantic 10 to join the new unnamed league.

Creighton, Virginia Commonwealth, Dayton or St. Louis could become the 10th team, or the conference could begin play with 12 teams if three schools vying for the 10th spot are all worthy candidates.

The decision to form the new league has already been made, according to MU sources. The only holdup is Georgetown President John J. DeGioia, who is struggling with the idea of his school leaving the Big East.

Once DeGioia signs on, an announcement on the formation of the new league, which would begin play next season, could come as early as Friday.

Come on Johnny...you gonna sign or what?  Don't make us get rough here!

abcfan2005 wrote: Imagine being a UCONN fan right now.

PiedmontPirate1 wrote:

crusherl wrote:

Zhuge1 wrote: If that Thamel tweet is correct, it's probably the best situation for all involved. The football conference will get to keep the conference name; the partial members will be able to join as full members; the departing members will be able to leave more quickly; the conference can add more western teams; and the basketball schools can go to a bball-only conference.

The C7 will do everything they can to take the Big East name since it gets them the conference tourney in MSG.

Not sure they're getting the name though now.  MSG would likley go to them if it can be parsed from the name.

dunlow66 wrote: And the new conference of Catholic schools will be called 


THE BIG PRIEST

ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: ECU rolls into the party just in time to see all the hot girls roll out the back door. I guess they can go back to being BCS "busters" again. Time to print the T-Shirts again just in time for a trip to Raleigh.

jus10ls wrote: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

ECU finally gets in, and the league dies.

howlie wrote: It's unclear to me as to who is left. Is this it [?]:

[West Coast]
San Diego State-2013
Boise State

[Plains]
Houston
SMU
Tulane-2013
Memphis

[East Coast]
UCF
Temple
East Carolina-2014
Navy-2015

How in the world do you manage these travel costs?

OldNorthStatesman wrote:

mstroud90 wrote:
Can anyone name the teams in the Big East anymore?

Big East Division
BC
VPI
Miami
Syracuse
Pitt
Notre Dame
Louisville

Southern Metro Division
Ga Tech
FSU
UVA
Wake
Duke
UNCCH
NCSU
Clemson

OldWolf wrote:

howlie wrote: It's unclear to me as to who is left. Is this it [?]:

[West Coast]
San Diego State-2013
Boise State

[Plains]
Houston
SMU
Tulane-2013
Memphis

[East Coast]
UCF
Temple
East Carolina-2014
Navy-2015

How in the world do you manage these travel costs?

shouldn't UConn and Cinn be in the list at this point?

dunlow66 wrote: And the new conference of Catholic schools will be called 


THE BIG PRIEST

ncsuwolfpack13 wrote: ECU rolls into the party just in time to see all the hot girls roll out the back door. I guess they can go back to being BCS "busters" again. Time to print the T-Shirts again just in time for a trip to Raleigh.

Nude photos in ECU student magazine raise eyebrows

GOPACKegc wrote: If I am Cincinnati and South Florida, I would be blowing up the Big 12 headquarters phone lines to try and be teams #11 and #12 in that league.  Cincy would have a close rivarly with WVU.  South Florida wanted in to the ACC but they could definitely upgrade if they got in the Big 12.  

So that leaves UConn waiting for the ACC to grab them as a 16th team and the rest of the football teams forming Conference USA 2.0.

Boise State and SDSU should probably bail unless there is some large MWC/CUSA merger.

dunlow66 wrote: 

The problem with trying to join the Big 12 is the TV contract. Adding Cincy and S. Florida would not get much of a boost in TV revenue, but would cause a 12 way split in money instead of the current 10 team split. The Big 12 teams could lose money by adding the wrong teams.

http://www.cbssports.com/colle...ding-yes-and-no

GOPACKegc wrote: If I am Cincinnati and South Florida, I would be blowing up the Big 12 headquarters phone lines to try and be teams #11 and #12 in that league.  Cincy would have a close rivarly with WVU.  South Florida wanted in to the ACC but they could definitely upgrade if they got in the Big 12.  

So that leaves UConn waiting for the ACC to grab them as a 16th team and the rest of the football teams forming Conference USA 2.0.

Boise State and SDSU should probably bail unless there is some large MWC/CUSA merger.

pack8103 wrote: I'm sure this question has been asked several hundred times and I apologize for not having the patience or time to dig for the answer myself but can someone tell me why the ACC can not create itself own tv network? If it brings in so much money and geographically we have one of the best tv markets, it would make sense to me to have a network like the big ten. So why has it not been done?

pack8103 wrote: I'm sure this question has been asked several hundred times and I apologize for not having the patience or time to dig for the answer myself but can someone tell me why the ACC can not create itself own tv network? If it brings in so much money and geographically we have one of the best tv markets, it would make sense to me to have a network like the big ten. So why has it not been done?

dunlow66 wrote:

pack8103 wrote: I'm sure this question has been asked several hundred times and I apologize for not having the patience or time to dig for the answer myself but can someone tell me why the ACC can not create itself own tv network? If it brings in so much money and geographically we have one of the best tv markets, it would make sense to me to have a network like the big ten. So why has it not been done?

Raycom (Swofford's son works there):

The ACC television rights that Raycom secured are credited with keeping the syndicator alive: “company executives acknowledged that keeping a piece of the ACC’s business was the only way the small, regional TV syndicator and production company could stay relevant.” Raycom pays $50 million annually in a sublicense agreement with ESPN; ACC schools see none of that money.



and ESPN contract:



ESPN has the rights to every valuable piece of ACC television property. Especially troubling for ACC schools is that they don’t retain rights to football and basketball games, the primary drivers behind television rights fees

RedLight wrote:

GOPACKegc wrote: If I am Cincinnati and South Florida, I would be blowing up the Big 12 headquarters phone lines to try and be teams #11 and #12 in that league.  Cincy would have a close rivarly with WVU.  South Florida wanted in to the ACC but they could definitely upgrade if they got in the Big 12.  

So that leaves UConn waiting for the ACC to grab them as a 16th team and the rest of the football teams forming Conference USA 2.0.

Boise State and SDSU should probably bail unless there is some large MWC/CUSA merger.

This is the only part that has any chance of happening.  Boise and SDSU could go back to the MWC if they don't like this new conference.  (It may still be called the 'Big East', but will bear no resemblance to the original.

If the ACC wanted UConn they would already be in the conference.  The ACC does not want UConn.

Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

That could become leverage to convince current members of the ACC -- especially some of its more vulnerable longtime schools, such as Duke and Wake Forest, to invite Cincinnati and UConn now and bring the current conference membership to 16.

MongoSlade wrote: Cincinnati, UConn talk of new all-sports league, could leverage ACC offer

Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

and, later on in the piece:

That could become leverage to convince current members of the ACC -- especially some of its more vulnerable longtime schools, such as Duke and Wake Forest, to invite Cincinnati and UConn now and bring the current conference membership to 16.

pskunk119 wrote: I heard them say on ESPN, that LaSalle's gym is on the 3rd floor of a building. WTF?

MongoSlade wrote: Cincinnati, UConn talk of new all-sports league, could leverage ACC offer

Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

and, later on in the piece:

That could become leverage to convince current members of the ACC -- especially some of its more vulnerable longtime schools, such as Duke and Wake Forest, to invite Cincinnati and UConn now and bring the current conference membership to 16.

RedLight wrote:

MongoSlade wrote: Cincinnati, UConn talk of new all-sports league, could leverage ACC offer

Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

and, later on in the piece:

That could become leverage to convince current members of the ACC -- especially some of its more vulnerable longtime schools, such as Duke and Wake Forest, to invite Cincinnati and UConn now and bring the current conference membership to 16.

This article is woeful.  Why the hell would Duke and Wake leave the ACC where they are set to make about $30 million a year in the near future?  This new league won't come any where near that kind of payout.

He also goes back to the debunked Big 12 and Big 10 are going to raid/destroy the ACC thus leaving poor Duke behind.  Not going to happen. Sounds like Mr. DeCourcy had a deadline with nothing to write about.  So he wrote about nothing.

RedLight wrote:

MongoSlade wrote: Cincinnati, UConn talk of new all-sports league, could leverage ACC offer

Sources close to the discussions told Sporting News on Friday that one possibility to give the Bearcats and Huskies a home, which is at the early stages of discussion, would be a cross-continent all-sports league involving disenfranchised members of the Big East as well as the most prominent members of the Mountain West.

and, later on in the piece:

That could become leverage to convince current members of the ACC -- especially some of its more vulnerable longtime schools, such as Duke and Wake Forest, to invite Cincinnati and UConn now and bring the current conference membership to 16.

This article is woeful.  Why the hell would Duke and Wake leave the ACC where they are set to make about $30 million a year in the near future?  This new league won't come any where near that kind of payout.

He also goes back to the debunked Big 12 and Big 10 are going to raid/destroy the ACC thus leaving poor Duke behind.  Not going to happen. Sounds like Mr. DeCourcy had a deadline with nothing to write about.  So he wrote about nothing.

dunlow66 wrote:
The problem with trying to join the Big 12 is the TV contract. Adding Cincy and S. Florida would not get much of a boost in TV revenue, but would cause a 12 way split in money instead of the current 10 team split. The Big 12 teams could lose money by adding the wrong teams.

http://www.cbssports.com/colle...ding-yes-and-no

BostonWolf wrote:

pskunk119 wrote: I heard them say on ESPN, that LaSalle's gym is on the 3rd floor of a building. WTF?

Both Madison Square Garden and TD Garden in Boston are built above train stations.

dunlow66 wrote: And the new conference of Catholic schools will be called 


THE BIG PRIEST