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Re: Atlanta Braves 2012-2013 Off-Season "Hot Stove"
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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:31 PM
Re: Atlanta Braves 2012-2013 Off-Season "Hot Stove"
Looks like the Nationals keep upgrading, now reported they have signed Rafael Soriano rafael soriano agrees to $28M/2 yr deal with nats. "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
Last edited 1/15/2013 2:32 PM by dunlow66
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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:09 PM
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Latest I've heard is that many insiders are expecting Bourn will be back with the Braves next season. Rut-roh... we already signed a CF'er. Would Bourn be good with LF?
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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:51 PM
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I'd love to have him back, but I can't imagine Boras letting him settle for anything less than major money. (As in, more than we can afford now.) stinger78 wrote: Latest I've heard is that many insiders are expecting Bourn will be back with the Braves next season. Rut-roh... we already signed a CF'er. Would Bourn be good with LF? |
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:22 PM
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I'd love for Boras's silly crap to blow up in his face. I'd take Justin Upton everyday over him everyday day of the week and would give him no more than $9 mil per year.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:07 AM
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stinger78 wrote: Latest I've heard is that many insiders are expecting Bourn will be back with the Braves next season. Rut-roh... we already signed a CF'er. Would Bourn be good with LF? Bourn in center and Upton to Left. Prado to 3rd. Would be an amazing line up! |
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:48 AM
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Justin did not have a great year last year, at least not considering all the hype he has gotten the last few years.
Personally, that is not a move I think the Braves need to make. It's not like y'all need more production at the plate. That lineup will be plenty dangerous.
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I'd love for Boras's silly crap to blow up in his face. I'd take Justin Upton everyday over him everyday day of the week and would give him no more than $9 mil per year.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 10:36 AM
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Justin Upton Rumors: Wednesday
ESPN's Olney believes the Braves “could and would” part with a strong package of prospects for Upton and could be the best match for the 25-year-old right fielde
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:50 PM
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Skywalker44 wrote:
stinger78 wrote: Latest I've heard is that many insiders are expecting Bourn will be back with the Braves next season. Rut-roh... we already signed a CF'er. Would Bourn be good with LF?
Bourn in center and Upton to Left. Prado to 3rd. Would be an amazing line up! Wren has already stated that on the outside chance Bourn returns to Atlanta, Upton will still be the CF. I doubt Bourn returns, he'll find a team to pay him like the Nationals are paying Soriano ($7MM per the next 2 years, vesting option for 3rd year, with 7 $2MM payments deferred to be paid between 2018-2025) before he'll take a below market value contract with the Braves for 1 year. |
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:45 AM
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Team USA announces World Baseball Classic Roster
Kris Medlen and Craig Kimbrel are included
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:47 AM
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Not excited to have Craig pitch in this... dunlow66 wrote: Team USA announces World Baseball Classic Roster
Kris Medlen and Craig Kimbrel are included |
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Posted: 1/18/2013 9:50 AM
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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:01 AM
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Very Good video. Have to give props....  It's times like these when I think of the immortal words of Socrates who said "I drank what?"
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Posted: 1/18/2013 5:33 PM
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ModokNCSU wrote: Bravo Style! hahaha love it |
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Posted: 1/23/2013 3:42 PM
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Arizona's talks with the Braves on Upton have resumed. Atlanta is said to be aggressive about acquiring Upton and they're likely the frontrunner for the outfielder if he is dealt. The D'Backs have been reviewing the Braves' offer and some folks involved believe that it's a strong proposal, according to Buster Olney.
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:39 PM
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Confirmed that # Braves have indeed made offer to Dbacks for Justin Upton. I think Teheran plus 2-3 other prospects, but not sure "Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:53 PM
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Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:48 PM
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Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays.
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I'd like to keep Teheran
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:16 PM
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Motorcat wrote: Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays. If J Upton comes, surely Bourn won't be signed. Upton/Upton/Heyward then Johnson/Constanza/Prado/? would be the outfileders IMO.
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Last edited 1/23/2013 8:18 PM by 232BectonHall
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:14 PM
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Yeah, i think this is right. No way we get Bourne if we trade for Upton. Personally, I tend to think acquiring Jason Upton would be a great get for us. Playing alongside his bro in a new (winning) atmosphere could really launch him into an MVP type season. Can you imagine, along with Heyward, Freddie and Mac having huge years? Dude - we'd be offensive juggernaut. Guys like Prado, Simmons and Uggla would just have to get on. The middle of the lineup would be incredible. 232BectonHall wrote:
Motorcat wrote: Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays. If J Upton comes, surely Bourn won't be signed. Upton/Upton/Heyward then Johnson/Constanza/Prado/? would be the outfileders IMO. |
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:19 PM
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packnplay wrote: Yeah, i think this is right. No way we get Bourne if we trade for Upton. Personally, I tend to think acquiring Jason Upton would be a great get for us. Playing alongside his bro in a new (winning) atmosphere could really launch him into an MVP type season.
Can you imagine, along with Heyward, Freddie and Mac having huge years? Dude - we'd be offensive juggernaut. Guys like Prado, Simmons and Uggla would just have to get on. The middle of the lineup would be incredible.
232BectonHall wrote:
Motorcat wrote: Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays. If J Upton comes, surely Bourn won't be signed. Upton/Upton/Heyward then Johnson/Constanza/Prado/? would be the outfileders IMO. I think the Braves realize those two may need each other for support. Each has gone off track/struggled recently and especially BJ can be something of a head case. Their dad probably will be around a lot with both of them on the same team, so I think it may work out great for all parties involved. |
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:20 PM
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Justin Upton is still the premier mid 20's level prospect in the NL. What he's done to this point in his career offensively and defensively is pretty remarkable. I think having both of them on the same team will be beneficial, more so to BJ. Justin has just had injuries derail good seasons of late but BJ has under performed and I think some competition with little bro should encourage him to be more selective at the plate. That and we'd EASILY have the best OF in the NL for years to come. Arguable the two best prospects in the NL (JH and JU) aside from Harper. Teheran has been up and down the last few seasons in the minors, he could be good but IMO what Delgado has shown at the major league level trumps Teheran's prospects. packnplay wrote: Yeah, i think this is right. No way we get Bourne if we trade for Upton. Personally, I tend to think acquiring Jason Upton would be a great get for us. Playing alongside his bro in a new (winning) atmosphere could really launch him into an MVP type season.
Can you imagine, along with Heyward, Freddie and Mac having huge years? Dude - we'd be offensive juggernaut. Guys like Prado, Simmons and Uggla would just have to get on. The middle of the lineup would be incredible.
232BectonHall wrote:
Motorcat wrote: Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays. If J Upton comes, surely Bourn won't be signed. Upton/Upton/Heyward then Johnson/Constanza/Prado/? would be the outfileders IMO. |
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:25 PM
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I agree MattRivNCSU wrote: Justin Upton is still the premier mid 20's level prospect in the NL. What he's done to this point in his career offensively and defensively is pretty remarkable. I think having both of them on the same team will be beneficial, more so to BJ. Justin has just had injuries derail good seasons of late but BJ has under performed and I think some competition with little bro should encourage him to be more selective at the plate.
That and we'd EASILY have the best OF in the NL for years to come. Arguable the two best prospects in the NL (JH and JU) aside from Harper.
Teheran has been up and down the last few seasons in the minors, he could be good but IMO what Delgado has shown at the major league level trumps Teheran's prospects.
packnplay wrote: Yeah, i think this is right. No way we get Bourne if we trade for Upton. Personally, I tend to think acquiring Jason Upton would be a great get for us. Playing alongside his bro in a new (winning) atmosphere could really launch him into an MVP type season.
Can you imagine, along with Heyward, Freddie and Mac having huge years? Dude - we'd be offensive juggernaut. Guys like Prado, Simmons and Uggla would just have to get on. The middle of the lineup would be incredible.
232BectonHall wrote:
Motorcat wrote: Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays. If J Upton comes, surely Bourn won't be signed. Upton/Upton/Heyward then Johnson/Constanza/Prado/? would be the outfileders IMO. |
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:25 PM
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If we get justin upton, prado goes to 3rd and we have a top 5 lineup
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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:26 AM
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Justin Upton is also locked in for the next 3 seasons, if I am not mistaken, at a contract level the Braves can afford if he remains healthy.
10 mil
14 mil
15 mil
rounded off numbers for the next three seasons of Upton's existing deal
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Posted: 1/24/2013 8:57 AM
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Motorcat wrote: Teheran, Really ?
Not so sure I like that for a crowded OF that gets really crowed if Bourne stays. ZERO chance they sign Bourn if they trade for J. Upton...why would you even think that? |
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:40 AM
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Looks like the Braves offer centers around pitcher Teheran, shortstop Nick Ahmed and outfielder Evan Gattis. Atlanta wants to keep pitching prospect J.R. Graham, but he may have to be included to get the deal done.
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:44 AM
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dunlow66 wrote: Looks like the Braves offer centers around pitcher Teheran, shortstop Nick Ahmed and outfielder Evan Gattis. Atlanta wants to keep pitching prospect J.R. Graham, but he may have to be included to get the deal done. The Gattis kid is an interesting story...would like to see how that pans out so I'd kind like to see him stay around. But business is business. I do NOT want to get rid of Graham though, that one would hurt. ________________________________________________________
"This team has way too much fight left. Do not count us out. Do count on us coming back stronger. Keep your heads up boys." - Brett Williams 6-19-13
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:51 AM
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Graham looks to have some potential after a solid season split between Lynchburg and Mississippi. He is a little smaller that most top pitching prospects, but so is Kris Medlin.
W 12 L 2, 2.80 ERA, 148 IP, 110 K's, 34 BB's
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:53 AM
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UPDATE: The Braves are close to acquiring Justin Upton from the Diamondbacks, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports. The teams are still working through the final details of the deal, which will send Randall Delgado to Arizona.
List of prospects may have changed to include Delgado, Sean Gilmartin and Zeke Spruill
seems to be a very fluid process, but getting close
*******Players for the trade are set pending physicals, Braves will get Upton***********
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
Last edited 1/24/2013 9:58 AM by dunlow66
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:17 AM
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BillShanks @BillShanks 2m Prado, Delgado, Ahmed and Spruill for Upton and Johnson is what I have heard.
Chris Johnson(28 years old) is a 3b from Arizona who hit .281 with 15 homers and 76 RBI's in 488 at bats last year. He also struck out 132 times. He came up with Houston and was traded to Arizona last season.
Hate to see Prado go if this is true, but at least we keep Teheran.
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
Last edited 1/24/2013 10:20 AM by dunlow66
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:21 AM
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dunlow66 wrote: BillShanks @BillShanks 2m Prado, Delgado, Ahmed and Spruill for Upton and Johnson is what I have heard.
Chris Johnson(28 years old) is a 3b from Arizona who hit .281 with 15 homers and 76 RBI's in 488 at bats last year. He also struck out 132 times. He came up with Houston and was traded to Arizona last season.
Hate to see Prado go if this is true, but at least we keep Teheran. Prado? Are you serious? ________________________________________________________
"This team has way too much fight left. Do not count us out. Do count on us coming back stronger. Keep your heads up boys." - Brett Williams 6-19-13
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:27 AM
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Must be money, Johnson and Fransisco make about 1 million combined although Johnson will be eligible for arbitration this year.
Prado makes 4.7 million, which is a deal for all the production and versatility he brings.
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
Last edited 1/24/2013 10:28 AM by dunlow66
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:28 AM
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This is a HUGE deal for ATL. Our outfield is absolutely incredible.
BJ
Simmons
Heyward
Justin
Freeman
Uggla
McCann
Johnson
Pretty ridiculous.
I hate losing Prado, but some of the beat writers on twitter are commenting that after his contract was up this year he'd command a bigger salary than the Braves would've taken. So, I guess it was a smart move from our perspective if true.
Last edited 1/24/2013 10:33 AM by MattRivNCSU
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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:58 AM
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That's a pretty scary lineup. Justin has a lot of potential, which he hasn't lived up to yet. But he is in a much better situation in ATL. He hit .280 last year, but had 121 strikeouts. Sure those numbers will improve in ATL. (Not that .280 is bad)
Well, I hope good pitching is better than good hitting. :)
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:13 AM
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Rotation:
Hudson
Medlen
Minor
Maholm
Beachy
That is very legit. Plus, a major factor here is that we kept the bullpen intact. I think Justin will play much better for ATL as he was obviously in need of new scenery and pairing with his brother should help them both.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:16 AM
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So y'all are okay with swapping Prado/Bourn for Upton/Upton?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:17 AM
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I wasn't talking about your pitching staff. I was talking about mine.
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Rotation:
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That is very legit. Plus, a major factor here is that we kept the bullpen intact. I think Justin will play much better for ATL as he was obviously in need of new scenery and pairing with his brother should help them both.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:25 AM
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I am, Bourne is overrated IMO. He's elite defensively, but our OF now might be the best offensive and defensive in the game today. We definitely lack a true leadoff hitter, but I think BJ will be serviceable in that spot. Also, I never expected to retain him and this is a nice slap in the face to Boras. I hate losing Prado, but this was his last year under contract and the Braves might have issues ponying up for the cash. If Johnson/Francisco can fill the whole at 3B this is an elite lineup. I am a huge Upton guy and not very often do you get a chance to land a potential MVP candidate at only 25 years old. He hit 26 homers as a 22 year old and 31 at 24. i think it's totally worth what we shipped off. Who knows, maybe Prado comes back in FA next year? abcfan2005 wrote: So y'all are okay with swapping Prado/Bourn for Upton/Upton?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:39 AM
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You're basically trading Bourn (.274) and Prado (.301) for BJ (.246) and Justin (.280). How is that an upgrade offensively?
Prado played so many positions. How is it an upgrade defensively?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 11:44 AM
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Ok, so you think Justin could have an MVP like year in ATL, that's why you like him so much. You're looking at this more based on potential.
Hey, can't argue that. Scouts love Justin. He could very well have a monster year in ATL. Hope not though. :)
I do think you'll have to find a leadofff hitter though. BJ isn't what you're looking for there. He's not gong to hit for average.
NL East is going to be crazy this year.
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