Reading through all of the Joe Bob posts and some of the recent threads about the next HC, I got to thinking, I really don't know who the next head coach should be, whether they are on staff, whether we bring them in from the outside, or whatever. What I do know is this, Kansas State University, the Prez, Currie, whoever, better damn sure have a plan in place to replace Coach Snyder. What I mean is, we better be willing to open the bank and act like we are a big boy in the college football thing. If they think we can go on the cheap and just keep things rolling, I think they are wrong. We have the money. We better be willing to drop some serious money on the coaching staff that replaces Snyder. Our football program is WAY to important. In my opinion, the total salary pool for the next HC and his staff should double if it has to. It is doubtful we will find a coach that can get as much done with less resources than Coach Snyder. We need to spend the money.

"Kansas State University, the Prez, Currie, whoever, better damn sure have a plan in place to replace Coach Snyder."

"We have the money. We better be willing to drop some serious money on the coaching staff that replaces Snyder. Our football program is WAY to important. In my opinion, the total salary pool for the next HC and his staff should double if it has to."

Totally agree with these thoughts!

Given the realities of Coach Snyder's age and the importance of his position, I'm sure that two plans are in place.

1)  An exigent plan for filling of the position with little or no notice. 

2)  A "normal" hiring plan for filling the position when advance notice is given. One of the key elements in this plan would be the involvement of Coach Snyder. Would he be the kingmaker or just an adviser or would he have to step aside if Sean were a candidate to avoid problems with state laws and/or university policies concerning nepotism?

The problem for fans is that they probably won't know who the next coach will be until right before the formal press conference announcing the new hire.

Is the short bald dude Michael Smith? Seems like he has good authority with your players, why not pass the torch to him? Most names out there will move on after their first successful year in Manhattan.

Do you guys take John Currie for a total idiot? Concerns like this are just another reason a school employs an athletic director.

IowaWildcat wrote: Do you guys take John Currie for a total idiot? Concerns like this are just another reason a school employs an athletic director.

TY...I have been biting my tongue for the past hour reading some of these inane and unfounded comments.

I think a lot of the people around here DO take him for a total idiot, and I haven't been able to figure out why.  The guy hasn't done anything wrong that I've ever seen and has done a lot of things very right.  I just don't get the hate directed his way.  I've seen nothing to indicate that he's not the best AD we've had as least since I was a student bordering on two decades ago.

This isn't meant as a slam on the OP, I too hope there is a definite plan in place for when Snyder hangs it up for good.  I just assume that there's no way that ADJC doesn't also realize that replacing Snyder is one of the biggest tasks he has in this job and he strikes me as the highly prepared sort.  Now a debate about what sort or resources we really have to throw at a coach and staff would be pretty interesting.  What can KSU actually afford if push came to shove?

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Do you guys take John Currie for a total idiot? Concerns like this are just another reason a school employs an athletic director.

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Not an idiot, but a snake in the grass.

IowaWildcat wrote: Do you guys take John Currie for a total idiot? Concerns like this are just another reason a school employs an athletic director.

I do NOT take Currie for an idiot and think he has done a great job. My point in the original post was that it is frustrating to lose a quality assistant who is home grown and a former player simply because he can get paid twice as much at a rival school, and although it isn't a big deal now because we still have Coach Snyder, I hope we are ready to act like a big boy when it is time to hire the next guy. I believe that at KSU, we don't have a lot of built-in advantages, so in my opinion, we need to create advantages for ourselves. We have done that by employing a guy named Bill Snyder for the better part of 23 years. However, when he is done, I don't think we can stay at the same budget levels and just hope and pray that the next guy can make magic like Coach Snyder. I for one never had a problem with paying Dalonte Hill the money we paid him. We need top notch assistant coaches. Why not pay them at a high level?

GorHoops wrote: Reading through all of the Joe Bob posts and some of the recent threads about the next HC, I got to thinking, I really don't know who the next head coach should be, whether they are on staff, whether we bring them in from the outside, or whatever. What I do know is this, Kansas State University, the Prez, Currie, whoever, better damn sure have a plan in place to replace Coach Snyder. What I mean is, we better be willing to open the bank and act like we are a big boy in the college football thing. If they think we can go on the cheap and just keep things rolling, I think they are wrong. We have the money. We better be willing to drop some serious money on the coaching staff that replaces Snyder. Our football program is WAY to important. In my opinion, the total salary pool for the next HC and his staff should double if it has to. It is doubtful we will find a coach that can get as much done with less resources than Coach Snyder. We need to spend the money.

We could pick up a Coach like Turner Gill because "We Have The Money".

Please provide the data for your blanket "We Have The Money".

Money is only one, an important one, criteria in selection of the next KSU Mens Varsity Football Coach. 

If Coach Snyder is making $2.5 million, do we need to pay the next guy $3, $4, $5 million?  How much is too much for you?

Good question Engineer, and I guess my main thought is, I might be more inclined to say we need to bump the assistants salaries moreso than the Head guy. I wouldn't necessarily pay the Head guy more than maybe 3 million, but I would up the salaries of the assistants. Does this guarantee success, of course not, but my point is, I hope we aren't just going to continue to pay close to the bottom of the league and expect to keep things rolling.

WildcatEngineer wrote:

GorHoops wrote: Reading through all of the Joe Bob posts and some of the recent threads about the next HC, I got to thinking, I really don't know who the next head coach should be, whether they are on staff, whether we bring them in from the outside, or whatever. What I do know is this, Kansas State University, the Prez, Currie, whoever, better damn sure have a plan in place to replace Coach Snyder. What I mean is, we better be willing to open the bank and act like we are a big boy in the college football thing. If they think we can go on the cheap and just keep things rolling, I think they are wrong. We have the money. We better be willing to drop some serious money on the coaching staff that replaces Snyder. Our football program is WAY to important. In my opinion, the total salary pool for the next HC and his staff should double if it has to. It is doubtful we will find a coach that can get as much done with less resources than Coach Snyder. We need to spend the money.

We could pick up a Coach like Turner Gill because "We Have The Money".

Please provide the data for your blanket "We Have The Money".

Money is only one, an important one, criteria in selection of the next KSU Mens Varsity Football Coach. 

If Coach Snyder is making $2.5 million, do we need to pay the next guy $3, $4, $5 million?  How much is too much for you?

this thread seems panicky to me

WildWillieCat wrote: this thread seems panicky to me

...starting with all caps in the title.

I'm 99.9% sure Currie has a plan.  I'm about 85% sure I will hate the results based on the Frank fiasco.

wazukat wrote: I'm 99.9% sure Currie has a plan.  I'm about 85% sure I will hate the results based on the Frank fiasco.

I took the bus out of gear and put it in park relative to our Mens Varsity Basketball Coaching situation.  We are #16 in the nation.  I figure it was time for me to shutup and cheer on those student athletes that are representing us so well.

I wish a few more would follow suit - let's wait to call 911 until we know there has been an accident.

I was skeptical about Weber when he was hired but I'm willing to give the guy his chance. So far, so good but we really won't know for 2-3 years.

WildcatEngineer wrote:

wazukat wrote: I'm 99.9% sure Currie has a plan.  I'm about 85% sure I will hate the results based on the Frank fiasco.

I took the bus out of gear and put it in park relative to our Mens Varsity Basketball Coaching situation.  We are #16 in the nation.  I figure it was time for me to shutup and cheer on those student athletes that are representing us so well.

wazukat wrote: I'm 99.9% sure Currie has a plan.  I'm about 85% sure I will hate the results based on the Frank fiasco.

This!

WildcatEngineer wrote:

wazukat wrote: I'm 99.9% sure Currie has a plan.  I'm about 85% sure I will hate the results based on the Frank fiasco.

I took the bus out of gear and put it in park relative to our Mens Varsity Basketball Coaching situation.  We are #16 in the nation.  I figure it was time for me to shutup and cheer on those student athletes that are representing us so well.

Bruce did really well with Self's recruits also.  It was his own that was a problem.

I think we need a HCIW for the HCIW.  Enjoy the ride.

wazukat wrote: I'm 99.9% sure Currie has a plan.  I'm about 85% sure I will hate the results based on the Frank fiasco.

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I guess I'd just like to see written out exactly what everyone who dislikes Curry thinks he has done that merits dislike.  This is meant as an honest question, not just a snarky reply.  Maybe others out there know more than I do and can fill me in.  Is there something solid or is it just that people don't like the way he looks, talks, or the cut of his suit?  I haven't talked to him personally, so I can't tell you what sort of opinion I would have from meeting him.  I just have the following to go on:

1) The athletics department has rebounded in a HUGE way after the fiasco surrounding the firing of Prince.  Many were saying they'd never give to KSU again, but now we're got record giving over a period of time where the nation has been down financially.  You could argue that this is more the work of Snyder's godlike powers or reaction to the new president, but it seems like at least SOME of the credit has to do Curry's way.  He was hired with a strong reputation as a fund raiser.

2) The funds coming into athletics appear to be put to wise use in building up our facilities to make sure we're keeping up with the BCS bell curve to prevent being left behind in conference Armageddon.

3) Frank Martin left KSU in what seemed to many to be a big hurry.  There has been a lot of speculation, but I've still never seen anything that seemed to point legit blame a Curry.  From the time the Miami job opened up, it seemed that Frank wanted out.  Is this because of a bad relationship with the AD or just because he wanted out of Manhattan?  I've seen nothing solid that makes it look like the AD's fault.  If someone does know something please let me know because I'd love to hear it.  The most damning evidence is that he suspended a player who was suspected of violating NCAA rules.  To me it appears that this is what it is his job to do.  How was this exactly a bad thing?

4) He hired Bruce Weber after Frank left.  The hiring was done extremely quickly and decisively.  Whether the hire was good or bad remains to be seen.  There is little evidence that it was a horrible decision, at least of the magnitude that would inspire hatred for the AD.  The fact that it happened quickly leads me to believe that Curry is well prepared and willing to take quick decisive action.  We'll see if the decision is a good one or a bad one as time goes on, but I've yet to hear any names given that would have been an obviously better alternative that he passed up, or even someone viable.  FYI, Gottleib (sp?) is not a viable alternative.  Any AD that made a decision to hire him with no coaching experience would be begging to get fired.  Is the rancor due to the fact that the search was so short and people didn't get to ruminate on it long enough?

So, to sum up, Curry has done documented good for the department in fund raising and building of facilities.  He's made one coaching decision that has yet to be proved out either good or bad, but has shown no sign yet of being a major face plant.  I see why some might reserve judgment on his performance, but just don't see anything hateable.  What am I missing?