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Nick Zeisloft

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Posted: 6/30/2014 12:05 PM

Nick Zeisloft 


It looks like CTC just couldn't take an open scholarship. Is this an academic signing, or will NZ contribute this year?

www.goredbirds.com/sports/m-ba...oft_758015.html
Look, I gotta go, my Avatar is calling.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 12:20 PM

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My initial understanding is this will take up two years?  Don't understand that at all.  But, hopefully, I'm not understanding this right and its one year.  I just don't understand this guy and his signings, never did, never will.  ????? from here.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 12:23 PM

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Just couldn't resist...

Zeisloft, 10, 20, or 50mg.  Take two 50mg Zeisloft and go to bed, no food.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 7:47 PM

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You got to shake your head unless it's for GPA. No offense to the kid but he's a scrimmage guy at best. If he proves me wrong, more power to him.....
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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:01 AM

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It seems to be a leadership thing. He was Capt of his team and is a Veteran and can help provide the leadership and accountablity that this team lacked last year.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 7:30 PM

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Agree 100%.  This team needs leadership badly.  Sometimes you to look beyond PPG and look at intangibles.  Nobody has 13 scholarship players that all average double figures. 

If you can't recognize the value in this, then you aren't looking very hard.  People forget (or ignore) the fact that Dane Fife averaged less than 5 points for his IU career and Chris Reynolds averaged less than 4.  I've never heard anyone speak negatively about teh value they brought to the team. 
SouthernHooser0126 wrote: It seems to be a leadership thing. He was Capt of his team and is a Veteran and can help provide the leadership and accountablity that this team lacked last year.

Last edited 7/2/2014 7:30 PM by 5fouls

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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:26 PM

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I think this is a pretty good move.  If he were 7 foot tall, I would think it is a great move.  :)   With the exception of inside players I think the team Coach Crean has put together is going to be pretty good.

Last edited 7/2/2014 11:26 PM by jmsgws

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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:55 PM

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I know I have not forgotten anything about Dane Fife.  Nor have I forgotten anything about Chris Reynolds. I
have not spoken ill of either of them.  Nor am I about to.  This is not about the kid.  It's about the coach, as it always is.  The leadership you speak of, and I would be remiss if I did not mention the greatest of all, Quinn Buckner, flows from the coach. 

Your are correct that I do not look very hard anymore at IU.  Been there, done that.  I believe the result will not change.  I respect other viewpoints that differ from mine.  If you honestly believe IU teams are well coached now, then we will agree to disagree.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 6:17 PM

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marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 8:44 PM

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Its highly unlikely that the walk-on new guy, who will get limited, if any minutes, would provide any leadership.
5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 9:35 PM

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Walk on???  I thought we were offering him a scholly?  Anyone know if he is officially coming?  Haven't seen anything other than he was interested.

Go Hoosiers!!!
cohete15 wrote: Its highly unlikely that the walk-on new guy, who will get limited, if any minutes, would provide any leadership.
5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.

Last edited 7/3/2014 10:08 PM by iuden

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Posted: 7/3/2014 10:52 PM

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So what you are saying is that you have to play a lot to give leadership. I would disagree with that, leadership comes in many forms and maybe considering he was Capt. of his last team, he can help balance these guys on and off the court.  A coach can only do so much in the end it's on the players.
cohete15 wrote: Its highly unlikely that the walk-on new guy, who will get limited, if any minutes, would provide any leadership.
5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.

Last edited 7/3/2014 10:52 PM by SouthernHooser0126

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Posted: 7/3/2014 11:37 PM

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5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.
I agree this team needs leadership.  Expecting the kid to provide it really is beyond me.  Unreal.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 8:23 AM

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Why is it unreal?  Do you personally know anything about this kid?  Leadership does not automatically come from a player that averages 20 ppg. 
marslanding wrote:
5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.
I agree this team needs leadership.  Expecting the kid to provide it really is beyond me.  Unreal.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 8:26 AM

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The general assumption is that he would use a scholarship.  If he was simply a walk-on no one would be questioning whether he deserves a spot on the team.  And, the reports are simply that there is interest.  There is no guarantee that any of this will even come about. 
cohete15 wrote: Its highly unlikely that the walk-on new guy, who will get limited, if any minutes, would provide any leadership.
5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.

Last edited 7/4/2014 8:27 AM by 5fouls

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Posted: 7/4/2014 10:26 AM

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Basically what I am saying is that unless you play, you can't lead... unless you've been there for 3 or 4 years.
5fouls wrote: The general assumption is that he would use a scholarship.  If he was simply a walk-on no one would be questioning whether he deserves a spot on the team.  And, the reports are simply that there is interest.  There is no guarantee that any of this will even come about. 
cohete15 wrote: Its highly unlikely that the walk-on new guy, who will get limited, if any minutes, would provide any leadership.
5fouls wrote:
marslanding wrote:   This is not about the kid. 
Your earlier post implied the kid wasn't worth two years.  While your dissatisfaction may be with the coach, that comment includes the kid. 

This team needs leadership.  Zeisloft may be able to provide that.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 1:41 PM

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If Indiana is counting on walk ons for leadership, we're in DEEP trouble.   I don't think it's a leadership thing...no scholarship athlete is going to follow the leadership of a walk on.
SouthernHooser0126 wrote: It seems to be a leadership thing. He was Capt of his team and is a Veteran and can help provide the leadership and accountablity that this team lacked last year.
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."  -  Homer J. Simpson
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Posted: 7/4/2014 2:18 PM

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gocolts88 wrote: If Indiana is counting on walk ons for leadership, we're in DEEP trouble.   I don't think it's a leadership thing...no scholarship athlete is going to follow the leadership of a walk on.

I would agree with the comment about relying on Walk-ons for leadership, but in this case, I thought the young man was given a scholarship?

still I think it says volumes if you are giving a scholarship not because the BB skills are there, but only to provide guidance and leadership.  

Knowing that Coach Crean hates open scholarships.  I think this was a pretty good move.  Not sure who else out there would be any better.


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Posted: 7/7/2014 2:48 PM

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This young man was given a scholarship and can play right away for IU. He has two years remaining that he can play. I know that last year and even this year Coach Crean kept saying over and over again. This team failed to hold each other accountable and was to busy trying to be everyone's friend.

So he finds this young man who was Capt of his Illinois State team that wants to go to Business School and was a decent three point shooter. We have the players that can play, and anyone who says that you can not lead from the bench has never been a leader. The actual game is only 1% of the students time. The leadership he can bring to the classroom, the weight room, the practice facility and late at night when out with friends can not be measured by playing time.

It is almost like a 42 year old catcher is hired to catch for a 18 year old prospect,(Can anyone say Bull Durham) who does not know how to handle himself yet in the minor's. His role is to teach and show him how to lead and play. Lead by example.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 10:54 PM

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To your point in the last sentence...

What does it say about the kids on the team (Ferrell in particular) if we have to bring in a kid to "lead by example?"   That's a pretty serious indictment of the kids who've been in the program a couple of years if you ask me.
SouthernHooser0126 wrote: This young man was given a scholarship and can play right away for IU. He has two years remaining that he can play. I know that last year and even this year Coach Crean kept saying over and over again. This team failed to hold each other accountable and was to busy trying to be everyone's friend.

So he finds this young man who was Capt of his Illinois State team that wants to go to Business School and was a decent three point shooter. We have the players that can play, and anyone who says that you can not lead from the bench has never been a leader. The actual game is only 1% of the students time. The leadership he can bring to the classroom, the weight room, the practice facility and late at night when out with friends can not be measured by playing time.

It is almost like a 42 year old catcher is hired to catch for a 18 year old prospect,(Can anyone say Bull Durham) who does not know how to handle himself yet in the minor's. His role is to teach and show him how to lead and play. Lead by example.
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."  -  Homer J. Simpson
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