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Indiana - Minnesota, Trappings of a Trap

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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:10 PM

Indiana - Minnesota, Trappings of a Trap 


tOSU just handed us a huge gift, like opening a pressure-relief valve on our B1G championship run.  A two-game lead with four to play is looking very sweet right now.

Minnesota is reeling from two road losses at Iowa and tOSU by 21 and 26 points respectively, and find themselves 6-8 in the B1G.  The Hoosiers are playing our best ball of the season, and coming off our biggest win.  Victor will have had a week to heal his gimpy ankle, and everyone else for IU is chomping at the bit for minutes, while Rodney Williams is nursing a sore shoulder.  Tubby is getting flak for another February swoon, after losing 8 of the last 11.  Everything looks great on paper.

This game should have us concerned, however.  Minny be back at home for the first time since Valentine's day, and likely need to win three of their last four to lock up an NCAA bid.  Their barn has been a house of horrors for us over the years.  Coach Crean has been hitting the recruiting trail hard this week, and the team will have had a week since their last game--like when we faced Butler.  

We will be going there with confidence and swagger, expecting to win.  We are dealing with a wounded animal, though, in its own lair.  Kind of like Illinois.  I hope we're expecting to do work, too.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:06 AM

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Being that our Team and Coach are blessed with superior intelligence they wont let this oppurtunity die by the wayside, I think that we will sweep the last three games by a wide margin. I really think that the rest of the season is for second place in the Big by Wisc, MichSt and Ohio State. I hope Whisky. wins out. I have tons of respect for Old Bo and how that he gets his players to play up to their potential. I think that they will win the big tourney with a little luck.

Hoosier Forever,
GO IU
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Posted: 2/26/2013 5:37 AM

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I agree with everything here except the swagger part. It is a tough game and we need confidence. If we really have confidence no need for swagger. That's for punks who have no confidence. We should play well but after the layoff there is good reason to worry. We get a good start we will be fine but if not we could run into trouble in this game.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:14 PM

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Slow start for the Hoosiers, and three quick buckets by Mbakwe and a deuce from Rodney Williams had Coach burning an early timeout. I suppose the best time to fall behind by 6 points is with 37 minutes left to play.

The Minnesota crowd is into it early, and we've done very little to quiet them. Hulls connected for 3, but it's 10-5 at the under 16:00. Plenty of time to get some rhythm. We'll have the ball out of the break, let's get a good look. Williams is on Watford, and though he's very quick, C-Wat should be able to post him up.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:24 PM

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Unbelievable start by Mbakwe, who apparently is allowed to punch Cody in the face and have it called a good block by Mike "Homer" Kitts. Nonetheless, Mbakwe has been a man possessed, with 10 points and 6 rebounds (5 offensive) in the first 6 minutes.

Fortunately, we brought Jordy Hulls, who is in the zone. Nothing for Watford and Zeller yet, but 11 for Jordy and IU is up 20-16 at the under 12:00.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:34 PM

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Rough and tumble B1G action. Letting them play, at least when we have the ball. Minny has been the more aggressive on the boards, with an 11-7 edge. At least three boards have been wrestled away from us by the active Gophers. We're getting nothing inside from our bigs, except blocked shots.

Our defense has been fine, two big steals in a row have us up 25-24 at the under 8:00, with Cody shooting a pair when play resumes.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:45 PM

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We're substituting freely, 10 guys have seen the floor in the first half. Elston got in early and missed a couple of 3's and lost a board, but has contributed nicely in his second stint, particularly on the boards.

The second foul on Mbakwe is big, but we haven't been able to exploit it. Yogi has missed on three drives to the rim and a baby jumper, now 0-5 from the field. Hulls hasn't had a look lately, maybe we need to set a pick for him.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:59 PM

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The good news is, Minnesota has played about as well as they could have hoped to play, came out with great energy and intensity, got about every imaginable call from the zebras, and still trail by 4 at the half.

We have gotten nothing from Watford, 2 points and 1 rebound from Zeller (and two fouls), only two free throws from Yogi, and we're up 4 at the break. We have another gear on both ends of the floor. If we can find it in the second half, we'll be fine. We could be fine anyway, but this is the dogfight we had to expect. We can also expect Tubby to make some adjustment on Hulls, but that could open things up more inside.

Coach has to get the lads fired up, and have them come out smokin'.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:18 PM

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Nothing too flashy, Hoosiers simply doing work after Minny got 2 quick buckets to tie the score early in the half. Very timely break for Tubby's Gophers at the under 16:00, with IU up 44-36. Still very little from Cody and C-Wat, but Hulls, Oladipo, and Yogi are rising to the challenge. Sheehey is also figuring in some big plays on both ends.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:28 PM

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Had 'em on the ropes at the last timeout, and let them back into it. Had two shots to get the lead to double-figures, but came up empty. Minny then had four chances on one possession and came away with a three. The calls continue to go against us.

Mbakwe sitting with three fouls, but we still can't get anything easy inside. Need a nice little run to take the starch out of these guys, but they found their rhythm after we built the lead and now it's a two point game at the under 12:00.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:39 PM

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Getting out-hustled now, out-scrapped, out-worked during that last segment. Now trailing by 3 at the under 8:00. These last 7:22 will be a war. How many rebounds can go off of our hands? How many second chances will we give them? How many whistles will go their way?

Illinois revisited, at this point.

Magic Johnson said it last Tuesday: "Superstars win games on the road". Come on, superstars, step up!
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:53 PM

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Gut-check time for the Hoosiers, now down 5 at the under 4:00. We are getting absolutely killed on the boards--the have more offensive rebounds than we have total rebounds. A few really silly turnovers haven't helped. Mbakwe's fourth foul is the only good news.

We really, really need a score out of this timeout. Need some leadership. Need Yogi to hit these throws.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 9:35 PM

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There will be plenty said and written about the refs tonight. There will be plenty said and written about Coach, about the zone, taking a recruiting trip in the middle of the week. There will be talk about playing on the road in the B1G, shooting problems in their barn, and having a week off to break your rhythm.

But you don't need to look any further than the rebounding stats to find where Minnesota could have found four more points than we scored. The Gophers got 13 more rebounds, and 11 more shots. Some of it is about bounces, but much is about desire. Minny wanted this one more, and deserved to get it.

We have breathed new life into another flagging program. Another court-storming. We are a better-than-good team, but not yet a great team. We have three more B1G games, the B1G tournament, and the big dance. Still time to learn, still time to grow.

Time to do work.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:16 PM

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I just dont belive that we lost this game. Why? Why? Why?
For once I cant bash our coach, He coached a great game and our players played up to their potential. Just a fluke game I reckon, Everything will be fine, I look for us to sweep the last three, win the Big T and go on to serve up a new banner. We will be alright.

Hoosier Forever,

GO IU
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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:19 PM

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johnfreed wrote: I just dont belive that we lost this game. Why? Why? Why?
For once I cant bash our coach, He coached a great game and our players played up to their potential. Just a fluke game I reckon, Everything will be fine, I look for us to sweep the last three, win the Big T and go on to serve up a new banner. We will be alright.

Hoosier Forever,

GO IU
Hey John, hope you're doing well.  We did have some spurts of good play, but for the most part, we got pushed around in the paint and didn't respond. 

I have to wonder if Watford was 100% physically tonight, he only got 18 minutes and we could have used him for twice that.  Cody had a tough night--starting with his first shot of the game that Mbakwe blocked and then finished with a big right hand to Cody's face.  A foul call there might easily have changed the rest of the night, at least for Cody Zeller.

You're right, we'll move on, we'll get a couple of home games and take care of business of Michigan.  We're still in first in the B1G, and we control our own fate.
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Posted: 2/27/2013 2:42 AM

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IUebermensch wrote: Had 'em on the ropes at the last timeout, and let them back into it. Had two shots to get the lead to double-figures, but came up empty. Minny then had four chances on one possession and came away with a three. The calls continue to go against us.

Mbakwe sitting with three fouls, but we still can't get anything easy inside. Need a nice little run to take the starch out of these guys, but they found their rhythm after we built the lead and now it's a two point game at the under 12:00.
That was right where the game was lost. We gave them four chances to score on one possession, and they end up hitting a three. If we had just rebounded the ball in there once, and came down and made it a ten point game, IMO the game would have been ours. You can't give teams that many opportunities to score on one trip down the floor. We did, and it cost us big time.
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Posted: 2/27/2013 9:24 AM

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The Hoosiers got outhustled by Minnesota, giving up 13 more rebounds, including 9 of them on the offensive end. The Gophers had 17 offensive rebounds and scored 18 points off them, most from putbacks. That was the game right there. IU and Minnesota were nearly even from the field, but the Hoosiers had fewer possessions and shots because of the discrepancy in offensive rebounds.

Yogi had a pretty good line in the box score except for shooting. Four rebounds, five assists, and two turnovers. He also penetrated and got to the basket, but he was off balance and threw up awkward shots instead of kicking the ball out or dishing it off. Yogi was 2-10 from the field. He took one more shot than both Zeller and Hulls and five more than Watford. IU's not going to win games that way. Crean can't afford to bench him, though. Yogi's got to be on the court to stop the dribble-drive penetration from other team's point guards. However, he's not and never will be the "go to" guy at Indiana.

Hulls scored 11 of IU's first 20 points on 4-5 shooting. He got just 4 shots, going 2-4, the rest of the game and scored only 6 of the Hoosier's next 53 points. Not near enough shots.

The Sheeladipo Effect was there for IU last night. Oladipo went 5-10 from the field, scored 16 points, grabbed 5 rebounds, and committed just 1 turnover while doling out 2 assists. He also held his man in check. The only downside to his game was no steals or blocked shots. Sheehey played well off the bench (3-5, 8 pts, 3 rbs, 2 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal, 1 turnover).

Zeller was completely outplayed by Mbakwe. Anyone who thinks he's ready for the NBA isn't paying attention. Too many of his shots around the basket start at his face and stay there while he's in the air. He got away with that in high school because he was so much bigger than everyone, but tonight, like some of the other nights, he ate a lot of leather. Everyone Tubby put on him blocked his shot.

Zeller will get drafted, maybe #1, but that's not the same as saying he's ready for the NBA. He'd be a work in progress who'd get out muscled around the rim. Once he fills out to 275 pounds, he'll be a star, though. That's why teams are willing to make him a lottery pick. So, should he come out? Well, of course! Why risk a career ending injury? Grab the money and finish college later. Or not.

Oh, by the way, did anyone see Watford Last night? He took five shots, had two rebounds, and didn't get to the line at all. You can make a case for any Hoosier starter being the key to this team hanging up the sixth banner, but there's not many teams who have someone who's strong inside, can score off the dribble, and hit the three.

Here's Watford's line in IU's four losses:

Butler - 1-5 shooting, 9 points, 3 rebounds
Wisconsin - 3-8, 11 points, 5 rebounds
Illinois - 4-11, 12 points, 8 rebounds
Minnesota - 3-5, 8 points, 2 rebounds

See a trend?
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Posted: 2/28/2013 5:07 PM

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Maybe I was missing something, Didnt watch or tune in to the game, didnt even know that we lost until I saw it on yahoo sports, I figured it was a W for us, A no brainer the way the gophers had been playing. We will bear down a lot harder in the last three.

Hoosier Forever,

GO IU
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Posted: 2/28/2013 5:25 PM

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What was with Shehey (sp) acting like he got his block knocked off at the end? I swear I think Crean told them to drop if an elbow came close. At least that's what it looked like in the huddle during the TO.

As a Duke fan I can't say they don't flop too, but that was pretty brilliantly blatant. That rule needs to be changed by the way. Officially if he had just got nicked it would have been a T.
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Posted: 2/28/2013 7:24 PM

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DevilPride86 wrote: What was with Shehey (sp) acting like he got his block knocked off at the end? I swear I think Crean told them to drop if an elbow came close. At least that's what it looked like in the huddle during the TO.

As a Duke fan I can't say they don't flop too, but that was pretty brilliantly blatant. That rule needs to be changed by the way. Officially if he had just got nicked it would have been a T.
I don't have the clairvoyance required to know what is discussed in the huddle during timeouts, but after replaying the incident several times, I think Sheehey's face was both grazed by Hollins' arm and then hit by Hollowell's hand as Jeremy reached around Hollins for the ball.  There is not a conclusive view, but the angle from the baseline stands seems to show it best.   

When it comes to flopping, however, you can bet the vast majority of the college basketball world would agree that Duke is in a class all it's own.  That much is clear.
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