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IU vs. Mich. ST.

Posted: 1/24/2013 8:57 AM

IU vs. Mich. ST. 


Well guys and Gals, What say you about our upcoming game?
Being it is on National TV, I say the Hoosiers break out of their funk and bring it against the Spartys, I know that I am going out on a limb on this one,. but that is the feeling that I am getting, It is now or never time and this game will have a major impact on the rest of our season, I just hope that it is a competive game in the first half and we dont get a big early lead and have a letdown in the second like we usually do. If we can play some decent D. and hold serve it will happen. Your thought's?

Hoosier Forever,
GO IU and kick some Sparty Butt.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:41 PM

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One good thing, this game is at Assembly Hall, and it will be rocking. We sent them home last year with a 15 point loss, and our crowd played a role (as did theirs, when we played in their barn).

You have to be concerned about Michigan State's size in the frontcourt, if Izzo starts both Payne and Nix. They are bruisers, and they can bring Gauna off the bench. Cody and Watford will have to man up in that case, and unless Elston is ready to play, we'll need a significant contribution from Perea and/or Hollowell.

The other match-ups can also be problematic. Appling has led MSU in scoring most of their games this year, but we'll need Oladipo's size on Dawson, so Yogi will probably draw that assignment--which leaves Jordy on Harris, which is something Izzo could be looking to exploit. Watch for Sheehey off the bench early if Harris or Appling light up our small guards.

We will likely be looking to run and get to the rim before they can set up their defense, particularly in the lane. We would have an advantage there, as our bigs are just a bit more mobile. We should consider that Izzo could be concerned about that, too--in which case he could go smaller and start Valentine. We'll see a number of different combinations, from both sides. If I were Izzo, I'd go big to start and see if MSU can get Cody in foul trouble.

Looking forward to a tough game. We have tended to play to the level of our competition, at least for a half, so this should be a good one. Who's ready to play?

Last edited 1/24/2013 9:43 PM by IUebermensch

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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:54 AM

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To IUebermenschm I can tell you that Gauna isn't going to play much. MSU will hope to play Nix and Payne together for as many minutes as stamina and fouls will permit, if we can get away with it. Costello is finally beginning to get some minutes as our next big man, although Gauna is a more proven scorer. And yes, Gauna may get five minutes or so of playing time while either Payne or Nix rest.

Dawson will punish whoever is guarding him on MSU's offensive end. I mean physically, on MSU's offensive glass. He also creates turnovers with good anticipation on lazy passes. On the other hand, Oladipo abused Dawson last year at the other end of the court.

Whoever Hulls is guarding is going to score. There's no getting around that. The idea of Hulls keeping Appling out of the lane is pretty outlandish. And Yogi hasn't overly impressed me with his defense, although I haven't seen all of Indiana's games so perhaps I haven't judged that fairly. I doubt that Sheehey is the defensive answer, either. I guess I'm saying that expect for Appling and Harris to score a lot, certainly more than Payne and Nix.

I'll be interested to see how many minutes Zeller and Oladipo each get, since they are far and away the two who concern me much. And will Watford be up, or will he be down on Sunday? He's probably the game's wild card.

Looking forward to the game. And yes, the DVR is set. Go Green.


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Posted: 1/25/2013 12:16 PM

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If we play up to our potential and stay away from all the Crazy Mistakes we will win going away. JMO

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Posted: 1/25/2013 4:26 PM

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I wouldn't worry about mistakes John as both squads will have their share on Sunday. There are a lot of young players on both teams. The coaches know each other very well & it will be interesting to see how the chess game plays out. We like Tom Crean & he knows what he's doing.

You guys have an awful lot of talent this year.......... it will be a real battle in all of the match-ups & I have to agree with Jake that Dawson and company are a very physical team this year and our scoring comes from many areas. Good luck (but not that muchbiggrin) on game day Sunday!
SPARTANS WILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 1/25/2013 5:44 PM

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Welcome to Hoosier Nation Sparty, Gonna be a competive game for sure, Just don't think that you can beat us at our house, Maybe at your place, We will see. Like I always say, talent don't always win the game, Good coaching and luck almost always wins.

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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:22 PM

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JakeGrafton wrote: To IUebermenschm I can tell you that Gauna isn't going to play much. MSU will hope to play Nix and Payne together for as many minutes as stamina and fouls will permit, if we can get away with it. Costello is finally beginning to get some minutes as our next big man, although Gauna is a more proven scorer. And yes, Gauna may get five minutes or so of playing time while either Payne or Nix rest.

Dawson will punish whoever is guarding him on MSU's offensive end. I mean physically, on MSU's offensive glass. He also creates turnovers with good anticipation on lazy passes. On the other hand, Oladipo abused Dawson last year at the other end of the court.

Whoever Hulls is guarding is going to score. There's no getting around that. The idea of Hulls keeping Appling out of the lane is pretty outlandish. And Yogi hasn't overly impressed me with his defense, although I haven't seen all of Indiana's games so perhaps I haven't judged that fairly. I doubt that Sheehey is the defensive answer, either. I guess I'm saying that expect for Appling and Harris to score a lot, certainly more than Payne and Nix.

I'll be interested to see how many minutes Zeller and Oladipo each get, since they are far and away the two who concern me much. And will Watford be up, or will he be down on Sunday? He's probably the game's wild card.

Looking forward to the game. And yes, the DVR is set. Go Green.
Gauna and Costello are about the same size, so there's another big body Izzo could throw at us if he decides to start two bigs.

I wouldn't put Hulls on Appling, but Hulls is a very heady player who can compensate somewhat for his lack of quickness with positioning and anticipation--which is why I would put him on Harris, and hope the senior's experience can help neutralize the freshman's athleticism.  Yogi is learning better defense each game, and has a chance to keep Appling in front of him with his quickness. 

Agree about Watford.  He is the X-factor for IU, and he'll have to bring it on both ends if we are going to win.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 4:43 PM

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John, i'm confused........didn't a non-athletic Wisconson beat you at "your House"?

Better play well, or you will lose, don't care if they play on the moon.

Btw, win going away? You think we run a bunch of two star try hard guys out there?

Good luck.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 7:03 PM

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We just got outcoached and outplayed in the game against Wisc. I have a lot of respect for their coach, a real blue collar coach, No rah, rah, No bs, they can beat anyone in the nation on any given night just because Bo understands the game as good as anyone. If he had the talent that we do they would be unbeaten and contend for the National Championship. ( No Doubt in my Mind).

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Posted: 1/27/2013 11:25 AM

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Back to todays game, We will be hitting on all cylinders, easy win for the Hoosier's, No problems.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:01 PM

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I wish I shared this confidence, but will certainly take the outcome.  Looks like the Hall is rocking, and that can't hurt us.  A big game from Watford could spell the difference, and we need to keep a close eye on Harris if we try to zone them.

Let's go, Hoosiers!
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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:07 PM

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Victor on Dawson. Wow. Any questions?
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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:16 PM

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Tied at 13 at the under 16:00. Couple of heavyweights throwing haymakers early, and landing quite a few. Payne with two 3-pointers? Both teams playing pretty well. This has all the makings of a classic.

Hulls should have finished that break, down in the paint against one defender. Not a smart play to kick it out to Yogi--but if it had gone it would have been huge.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:29 PM

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MSU will win.....



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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:33 PM

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Victor with 4 steals, 4-4 from the field. Watford 3-3 from the field. Good start for those guys.

Hoosiers shooting 67% from the field, 50% from deep at the under 8:00.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:44 PM

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Three turnovers on bad passes, two of the just plain lazy variety, and one where Hulls left his feet without a plan. MSU made us pay. Need to tighten that up, shouldn't be all that difficult, just giving away easy points.''

IU up 2 at the under 4:00. Great game.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:50 PM

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IU wants to play so fast they commit dumb turnovers. Also our defense continues to show holes. Hope this tightens up as the game progresses.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 2:03 PM

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Very entertaining first half, IU up 44-38 at the half. Payne is having a monster game for the Spartans with 13, IU with a bit more balanced scoring. Both Payne and Zeller look to be concerned with foul trouble, which would be a major factor if either team were to lose their big horse--but it makes for a more fluid and rhythmic game when you don't have hacking and whistles on every possession. Cody is the only one to hit his free throws for us in the first half, which helps in that aspect.

We're winning the battle of the boards, but have turned it over way too many times, Watford the latest victim of a lazy inbounds pass. You have to think Coach Crean is making an issue of that right now. Izzo is working the refs hard, but the game is pretty balanced to my eye. Playing a featured game on a major network has the zebras on their toes.

The threes by Sheehey and Yogi at the end of the half were monstrous--but I'm sure it will only make MSU more focused to start the second half. Keep your seatbelts fastened.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 2:06 PM

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Hey People, Very pleased w/our team so far except being a little careless with the inbounding. I just find it hard to belive how much progress the team has made since I last saw them. Nothing critical to say about the coach, seems as though that he had the team ready to play. want to see a better second half if the big O don't run out of gas, I really didn't realize how much energy that he burn's.
Keep it going team.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 2:09 PM

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Oh another thing was pleased to watch Cry Baby Izzo pleading with the ref's. I don't really like him very much. Ha
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