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Syracuse Goes Down, Who's Next?

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Posted: 12/22/2012 2:21 PM

Syracuse Goes Down, Who's Next? 


Gutsy performance by Temple today at a neutral site (sound familiar?), hitting their free throws down the stretch, knocking off #3 Syracuse 83-79, and postponing win #901 for Boeheim.  We should move up a notch in the rankings with this one.

Michigan State/Texas just getting under way in East Lansing.  Kentucky plays Marshall later, but that would be a shocker, since they wouldn't schedule anyone at home that they couldn't beat.  We can always hope. 

Kansas/tOSU at 4:00 pm EST, somebody's gonna have to lose in that one.

Missouri/Illinois at St. Louis should be a war, and Florida goes to K-State.  Great day for hoops junkies.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 2:42 PM

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Sounds like a fun basketball day, Said goodbye to cable and made my own antenna, Havce only watched 5 games this season, Got to watch my Hoosiers play but was mildly disapointed in their loss to Butler, But was thinking after the game that it was a blessing in disguise, a good dose of humility sometimes does more good than harm.

Hoosier Forever,
GO IU
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Posted: 12/22/2012 3:46 PM

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johnfreed wrote: Sounds like a fun basketball day, Said goodbye to cable and made my own antenna, Havce only watched 5 games this season, Got to watch my Hoosiers play but was mildly disapointed in their loss to Butler, But was thinking after the game that it was a blessing in disguise, a good dose of humility sometimes does more good than harm.

Hoosier Forever,
GO IU
I agree, John.  There has been a lot of conversation about whether any loss can be a "good" loss, and frankly, it depends on what is meant by "good".  If it means enjoyable and fun to watch, no way.  If you're talking football, no way--a loss is always bad, IMO.   

In basketball, if it means "productive" in the sense that it causes the team to intensify their focus, adjust to weaknesses that they previously did not recognize, be more careful with the ball and value it more, cut out the showboating, work on their free throws, practice rebounding skills, step up the energy and communication on defense, use your obvious height advantage and feed the post, then, well, that could be very good for the team.

Like many Hoosier fans, I had whimsically entertained the idea of an undefeated season.  Watching some of the B1G teams play lately, the idea of running the B1G gauntlet and coming out unscathed was likely a pipe dream.  We'll see how "productive" the Butler loss was when we go to Iowa on New Year's Eve.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 6:19 PM

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uhhh, we were next.  ouch

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Posted: 12/22/2012 6:30 PM

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MSU survived a scare but held serve against Texas at the Breslin Center. Seemed bothered by Texas' zone defense.

Ohio State stank it up pretty much at home against Kansas, losing 74-66 and shooting under 31% for the game, and worse from downtown. Lenzelle Smith, who couldn't miss against us last year, was 3-13 from the field and 0-7 from beyond the arc. Kansas showed in the closing minutes that the bulk of their talent is from the neck down, or it could have been worse.

I saw some speculation that tOSU might vault over IU in the rankings with a victory over KU, but that is now moot.

Missouri/Illinois now underway, 14-14 at the under 12:00.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 6:38 PM

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lobojonz wrote: uhhh, we were next.  ouch
Ouch is right.  South Dakota State over the # 16 Lobos, 70-65.  At home?  Whoa.  Another undefeated team goes down.  Condolences, lobojonz.

Better news for Alford's former team as Iowa pounded Coppin State.  Have to be concerned about the Hawkeyes.

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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:35 PM

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Down go the Illini, 82-73. Very entertaining game, chippy at times, giving TV Ted plenty of chances to get in the picture. Mike Kitts, a.k.a. "Homer" Simpson, also did the game--but since it was played at a neutral site, he didn't know which team to favor, so it turned out to be pretty well officiated.

Illinois shot poorly overall, 34% from the field, and 8-32 from downtown. Take away Tyler Griffey's 4-7, and that would be 4-25 for the rest of the team. As they say, live by the 3....

And you could get killed on the boards, which is pretty much what happened. Missouri had a 48-30 edge in rebounding, including +7 on the offensive end. That alone should have provided the margin of victory, considering Missou shot a higher percentage in every category.

For those who waxed nostalgic for BAM, you can catch him now on ESPN2 in the K-State/Florida contest.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 9:35 PM

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IUebermensch wrote:
lobojonz wrote: uhhh, we were next.  ouch
Ouch is right.  South Dakota State over the # 16 Lobos, 70-65.  At home?  Whoa.  Another undefeated team goes down.  Condolences, lobojonz.

Better news for Alford's former team as Iowa pounded Coppin State.  Have to be concerned about the Hawkeyes.
Thanks-it happens.....disbelief
Its as simple as basketball gets - you either make shots or you dont.
SDST shot nearly 50%, lobos 35%.  12:30 tip and SDST was ready and we werent.
Thankfully we arent plastered all over ESPN with Syracuse and Illinois losing.  Chance to make it up at Cincinnati and at St Louis next week in a year end road trip grinder.  Time to sink or swim.
Good luck Hoosiers - so glad to have you relevant again!

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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:24 AM

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I agree that sometimes losses are not so bad. Losing to Butler did not shock me too much and I certainly didn't have any illusion that this team would be undefeated after the Georgetown game. What was really bad about the Butler game was the miserable performance in overtime after three of their guys fouled out. I really want to see IU play a good team away from home and beat them before I feel they deserve their top ten ranking. Yet at the same time it would not surprise me to see them beat just about any team badly if they are playing well. I think that's the kind of team Crean coaches--they need to hit their 3s to be really good.
IUebermensch wrote:
johnfreed wrote: Sounds like a fun basketball day, Said goodbye to cable and made my own antenna, Havce only watched 5 games this season, Got to watch my Hoosiers play but was mildly disapointed in their loss to Butler, But was thinking after the game that it was a blessing in disguise, a good dose of humility sometimes does more good than harm.

Hoosier Forever,
GO IU
I agree, John.  There has been a lot of conversation about whether any loss can be a "good" loss, and frankly, it depends on what is meant by "good".  If it means enjoyable and fun to watch, no way.  If you're talking football, no way--a loss is always bad, IMO.   

In basketball, if it means "productive" in the sense that it causes the team to intensify their focus, adjust to weaknesses that they previously did not recognize, be more careful with the ball and value it more, cut out the showboating, work on their free throws, practice rebounding skills, step up the energy and communication on defense, use your obvious height advantage and feed the post, then, well, that could be very good for the team.

Like many Hoosier fans, I had whimsically entertained the idea of an undefeated season.  Watching some of the B1G teams play lately, the idea of running the B1G gauntlet and coming out unscathed was likely a pipe dream.  We'll see how "productive" the Butler loss was when we go to Iowa on New Year's Eve.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 11:02 AM

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IUebermensch wrote: Down go the Illini, 82-73. Very entertaining game, chippy at times, giving TV Ted plenty of chances to get in the picture. Mike Kitts, a.k.a. "Homer" Simpson, also did the game--but since it was played at a neutral site, he didn't know which team to favor, so it turned out to be pretty well officiated.

Illinois shot poorly overall, 34% from the field, and 8-32 from downtown. Take away Tyler Griffey's 4-7, and that would be 4-25 for the rest of the team. As they say, live by the 3....

And you could get killed on the boards, which is pretty much what happened. Missouri had a 48-30 edge in rebounding, including +7 on the offensive end. That alone should have provided the margin of victory, considering Missou shot a higher percentage in every category.

For those who waxed nostalgic for BAM, you can catch him now on ESPN2 in the K-State/Florida contest.

Mizzou is the third best rebounding team in the country - by margin and I'm pretty sure that improved last night. That's what they do very well.

The Illini put up a fight, but we just couldn't hit shots last night and finish the game.

I thought our effort was excellent.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 8:35 PM

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Agreed, the Illini certainly put out the effort, no argument there.  The game illustrated what many observers have said about the Illini and their dependence on outside shooting and lack of a presence in the paint, however.  That will be the challenge UI faces, if Griffey wants to play outside and Egwu is the only consistent rebounder.   

On any given night, Illinois could beat any team in the country if they're hitting from downtown.  And they'll beat many average teams with their transition game.  We'll see how they fare in the B1G, but I for one am glad we don't have to deal with M. Leonard this year.
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Posted: 12/24/2012 1:19 PM

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IUebermensch wrote: Agreed, the Illini certainly put out the effort, no argument there.  The game illustrated what many observers have said about the Illini and their dependence on outside shooting and lack of a presence in the paint, however.  That will be the challenge UI faces, if Griffey wants to play outside and Egwu is the only consistent rebounder.   

On any given night, Illinois could beat any team in the country if they're hitting from downtown.  And they'll beat many average teams with their transition game.  We'll see how they fare in the B1G, but I for one am glad we don't have to deal with M. Leonard this year.
I was talking to a friend about that the other night. Many teams around the country could say if only we had this person back for another year, but I'll agree that if ML would've came back this year the Illini become final four caliber.
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Posted: 12/28/2012 1:00 PM

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Previously undefeated and #8 ranked Cincinnati losses to unranked New Mexico on the Bearcats home floor on Thursday night.

Apparently one upset loss to South Dakota State negates wins the Lobos had over UConn, Davidson, George Mason, USC, etc.  in route to a 13-1 (6-0 Away 7-1 Home) record in the eyes of the top 25 voters.  We dropped from being ranked 16th to out of the polls completely after are one loss last Saturday even with a top 10 RPI.
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