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Andy Katz Article on Anthony Davis

Posted: 11/1/2012 10:50 PM

Andy Katz Article on Anthony Davis 


Not one single mention of the word "education" in this article.  I guess Katz has bought into the argument that college ball is just a prep stop for the NBA. How sad!
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Posted: 11/2/2012 12:16 AM

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Upunder wrote: Not one single mention of the word "education" in this article.  I guess Katz has bought into the argument that college ball is just a prep stop for the NBA. How sad!

Anthony Davis used his year in college to fully prepare himself for his dream career, one in which he will earn tens of millions of dollars.

What exactly is the point of college again?
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Posted: 11/2/2012 12:37 PM

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Papa1212 wrote:
Upunder wrote: Not one single mention of the word "education" in this article.  I guess Katz has bought into the argument that college ball is just a prep stop for the NBA. How sad!

Anthony Davis used his year in college to fully prepare himself for his dream career, one in which he will earn tens of millions of dollars.

What exactly is the point of college again?
To educate yourself. Only about less then 1% of all people in college will ever play professional sports. Davis only went to UK for a year cause he couldn't go right out of high school. And he's still as dumb as other UK basketball players. If he could have went out of high school, he would have, so would have half of UKs teams under Calipari, and he'd be in the NBA too. If you don't know what the point of college is, then you ARE a UK fan. TO UK its Basketball>academics, which shows because UK fans, students and players know more about basketball, then everything else combined, and thats not saying much considering you don't really know basketball at all. At least IU fans and students and players know what 2+2 is and can name all 50 states and cant put a coherent sentence together.
The toothbrush was invented in Kentucky. If it were invented anywhere else, it would be a teethbrush.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 9:40 PM

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iuhoosiers2006 wrote:
Papa1212 wrote:
Upunder wrote: Not one single mention of the word "education" in this article.  I guess Katz has bought into the argument that college ball is just a prep stop for the NBA. How sad!

Anthony Davis used his year in college to fully prepare himself for his dream career, one in which he will earn tens of millions of dollars.

What exactly is the point of college again?
To educate yourself. Only about less then 1% of all people in college will ever play professional sports. Davis only went to UK for a year cause he couldn't go right out of high school. And he's still as dumb as other UK basketball players. If he could have went out of high school, he would have, so would have half of UKs teams under Calipari, and he'd be in the NBA too. If you don't know what the point of college is, then you ARE a UK fan. TO UK its Basketball>academics, which shows because UK fans, students and players know more about basketball, then everything else combined, and thats not saying much considering you don't really know basketball at all. At least IU fans and students and players know what 2+2 is and can name all 50 states and cant put a coherent sentence together.

Incorrect, the point of college is to prepare yourself to obtain/maintain the best possible job in whichever profession that you choose.  Whether that field is banking, architecture, health services, or basketball.

And by that incoherent blob that you may call a paragraph, it appears as though you need to check out a few colleges yourself.
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Posted: 11/3/2012 5:11 PM

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Papa1212 wrote:
iuhoosiers2006 wrote:
Papa1212 wrote:
Upunder wrote: Not one single mention of the word "education" in this article.  I guess Katz has bought into the argument that college ball is just a prep stop for the NBA. How sad!

Anthony Davis used his year in college to fully prepare himself for his dream career, one in which he will earn tens of millions of dollars.

What exactly is the point of college again?
To educate yourself. Only about less then 1% of all people in college will ever play professional sports. Davis only went to UK for a year cause he couldn't go right out of high school. And he's still as dumb as other UK basketball players. If he could have went out of high school, he would have, so would have half of UKs teams under Calipari, and he'd be in the NBA too. If you don't know what the point of college is, then you ARE a UK fan. TO UK its Basketball>academics, which shows because UK fans, students and players know more about basketball, then everything else combined, and thats not saying much considering you don't really know basketball at all. At least IU fans and students and players know what 2+2 is and can name all 50 states and cant put a coherent sentence together.

Incorrect, the point of college is to prepare yourself to obtain/maintain the best possible job in whichever profession that you choose.  Whether that field is banking, architecture, health services, or basketball.

And by that incoherent blob that you may call a paragraph, it appears as though you need to check out a few colleges yourself.
     I thought that since you were going to try to embarrass someone over how they typed something that you should know there should have been a period between "Incorrect" and "the".  You just used a comma splice, which is incorrect in itself.  I am not trying to be the grammar police, but it looks  like you need to check out a few colleges yourself before you criticize another person's writing.  I am not always correct, either, but you were the first one to try to start calling out someone on their writing abilities.  
     The point about players using college as nothing more than a launch pad for the NBA and nothing more is something people can debate all day long.   Yes, some of these kids will see more money in a year in the NBA than most people will in their entire lifetimes.  The statistic many people never talk about, though, is that 60% of the players that leave the NBA are broke within 5 years of being out of the league.  You could write a book on the reasons why.  What it does boil down to, however, is that for those that did not get their degree, they blew their chance to have something to fall back on.  Many of these kids with the one-and-done mentality are looking for the quick fix and are not generally managing their money very well and it is starting to show through the statistics.   You don't always have to graduate college to manage your money  well, but it doesn't hurt.   So many of these kids that play college basketball and football do not take advantage of the opportunities they have while they are in school.  There is a 60% chance, like I said earlier, that any kid going to the NBA will be broke within 5 years of leaving the league.  Maybe some of those one-and-done players will go back and get their degrees, but since many of them never take school seriously during their  five month long  audition for the NBA they are now spending in college, it would be almost like starting from square one if they do eventually return to get their education.  
     Finally, I don't blame these kids as much as I blame the NCAA for allowing this sort of thing to become common place in college basketball.  NCAA athletics is supposed to be about STUDENT athletes, NOT athlete students.  If they really ,really want to clean it up, their best bet would be  to go back to the way they had it years ago and make all freshmen athletes ineligible.  The NCAA cannot control what the NBA chooses to do, but they can change their own rules to prevent the NCAA from becoming nothing more than an NBA farm system.  Freshman ineligibility worked  great for many, many years.  It allowed the student athletes to become accustomed to college life and helped them to focus their first year on getting their academics in order.  The NBA wouldn't like it, but who cares.  The NCAA has no say in what the NBA does, just like the NBA has no say in what the NCAA does.  They would need to raise the scholarship limits back up to 15 per team like it was when freshmen were ineligible to play.  I do not foresee the NCAA instituting this rule again because, quite frankly, Nike doesn't want  something like this to happen, thus, neither does the NCAA.  I am convinced it would work if they would do it, though.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:20 AM

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You have it right.  But Emmert is concerned that Stern and Billy Hunter would eat his lunch...as usual.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 10:15 PM

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Actually, I don't think Davis or anyone else following the rules that force them into college and then allow them to leave should be criticized. What is appalling is the system itself. Either let kids go right to the NBA and take their chances, or penalize schools with losses of scholarships for disrespecting the purpose of college. What is more surprising and distressing are the attitudes that the ONLY thing college is for is to make money. It misses the whole point and is the reason Americans are least well informed people among all highly developed industrial countries in the world. No wonder our kids are struggling to compete when the adults like papa think the main value of college is not to get educated but simply to get a job. It's sad but maybe that's all the University of Kentucky is able to do. I really don't think that, but apparently UK fans do.
Papa1212 wrote:
iuhoosiers2006 wrote:
Papa1212 wrote:
Upunder wrote: Not one single mention of the word "education" in this article.  I guess Katz has bought into the argument that college ball is just a prep stop for the NBA. How sad!

Anthony Davis used his year in college to fully prepare himself for his dream career, one in which he will earn tens of millions of dollars.

What exactly is the point of college again?
To educate yourself. Only about less then 1% of all people in college will ever play professional sports. Davis only went to UK for a year cause he couldn't go right out of high school. And he's still as dumb as other UK basketball players. If he could have went out of high school, he would have, so would have half of UKs teams under Calipari, and he'd be in the NBA too. If you don't know what the point of college is, then you ARE a UK fan. TO UK its Basketball>academics, which shows because UK fans, students and players know more about basketball, then everything else combined, and thats not saying much considering you don't really know basketball at all. At least IU fans and students and players know what 2+2 is and can name all 50 states and cant put a coherent sentence together.

Incorrect, the point of college is to prepare yourself to obtain/maintain the best possible job in whichever profession that you choose.  Whether that field is banking, architecture, health services, or basketball.

And by that incoherent blob that you may call a paragraph, it appears as though you need to check out a few colleges yourself.
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Posted: 11/6/2012 3:35 PM

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Nothing Davis did was wrong. What Cal did to get him there, that's a different story.
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Posted: 11/7/2012 12:58 PM

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The purpose of attending college is to prepare yourself for your chosen career path. If anybody on this board could attend college for 1 year and start making millions of dollars they would. Not a single one of you would turn the money down or return for 3 more years and risk injury thereby not getting the contract. That's what college is for. To prepare you for your choice of professions. It happens that professional sports doesn't require a 4 year degree. It only requires an athlete to be a certain age yet many people are critical of athletes that are talented enough to turn pro early. If Zeller had went pro after last year, everyone would be saying what a smart choice it was. Tom Crean would have been his biggest supporter. Why risk injury? But because athletes from a rival team are going pro early, it must be a horrible thing. "Someone should do something!!" I've read the same arguments on boards from other teams and I've noticed a pattern. If the team doesn't have any pro caliber players, the fans are against the one and done method. If a team does have pro caliber players, the fans are much more receptive. It seems that how most fans feel about the one and done athlete depends on the makeup of their team.

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Posted: 11/7/2012 2:26 PM

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Then these kids that have no interest in an education can go to Europe or the NBDL or something.  My point is that  it is NOT the NCAA's job to be a farm system for the NBA.  No one is trying to keep these kids from going to the NBA, but college is also about becoming well rounded. That is why when you are a college student, they make you take courses that you might otherwise have no interest in.  I, for one, am glad I had to do that.  It broadened my interests in a lot of things I may not have even known about if I didn't     It is about helping to  become a more well-rounded person.  Tech schools exist  to prepare you for a job.   
ballfan1961 wrote: The purpose of attending college is to prepare yourself for your chosen career path. If anybody on this board could attend college for 1 year and start making millions of dollars they would. Not a single one of you would turn the money down or return for 3 more years and risk injury thereby not getting the contract. That's what college is for. To prepare you for your choice of professions. It happens that professional sports doesn't require a 4 year degree. It only requires an athlete to be a certain age yet many people are critical of athletes that are talented enough to turn pro early. If Zeller had went pro after last year, everyone would be saying what a smart choice it was. Tom Crean would have been his biggest supporter. Why risk injury? But because athletes from a rival team are going pro early, it must be a horrible thing. "Someone should do something!!" I've read the same arguments on boards from other teams and I've noticed a pattern. If the team doesn't have any pro caliber players, the fans are against the one and done method. If a team does have pro caliber players, the fans are much more receptive. It seems that how most fans feel about the one and done athlete depends on the makeup of their team.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:59 PM

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Will Zeller have his degree next season, when he's playing in the NBA?  Eric Gordon, did he finish up?
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