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Purdue getting hammered in the National Media

Posted: 11/29/2012 9:35 PM

Purdue getting hammered in the National Media 


Mark May of ESPN and several BIG Network folks have hammered Purdue for their firing of Danny Hope. May said "Purdue's not an elite program and it's considered a good season when they reach a bowl". This is the stuff that fans HATE to hear but it's true, Purdue could've done a lot worse than Danny Hope these last four years.

It's a huge gamble by Purdue and their people because they could easily slide back into the Jim Colleto years. I gotta throw this in here...just read an article over on Rivals home page ranking the current job openings and no surprise, Auburn is ranked number one. It went on to rank the ten openings and Purdue was at number six on the list. At the very end of the article, it stated "just for the record, if Kentucky was still open they would've been ahead of Purdue on this list". I about pissed my pants but I'd have to agree, the Kentucky job has more potential than the Purdue job. Kentucky fans have filled Commonwealth Stadium during 3-8 campaigns, Purdue fans generally stay away in droves at the first sign of a losing campaign.

Last edited 11/29/2012 9:52 PM by waylonjennings

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Posted: 11/29/2012 9:49 PM

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Agreed, they played Notre Dame and tOSU very tough, won 3 conference games to finish the season strong, and finished bowl eligible.  Admittedly, their B1G wins were against second division teams, but a W is a W.  We'd take any we could get, and actually did beat the same teams--Illinois, Iowa, and ourselves. 

Bowl eligibility would have been a major milestone for us this year.  Next year, it will still be.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 10:00 PM

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IUebermensch wrote: Agreed, they played Notre Dame and tOSU very tough, won 3 conference games to finish the season strong, and finished bowl eligible.  Admittedly, their B1G wins were against second division teams, but a W is a W.  We'd take any we could get, and actually did beat the same teams--Illinois, Iowa, and ourselves. 

Bowl eligibility would have been a major milestone for us this year.  Next year, it will still be.
I was talking with another longtime IU football fan today and we both agreed, this IU team should be BOWLING THIS YEAR. It's squarely on Coach Wilson that IU isn't bowling this year, ugly losses to Ball State, MSU and Navy are on him.

IU's team excuted well enough to open up a huge lead on MSU only to see the lead wilt in the second half because of bad play calling from Litrell. The Ball State game's inexcusable on every level possible because IU has a more talented team IMO, of course Ball State's better coached. The Navy game saw IU leading by 10 points or more with less than five minutes in the game. Those three games were coaching nightmares for this staff but the average fan doesn't even understand that IMO. They just think IU doesn't have enough horses to win those three games...Horsepuckey, coaching is CRITICAL in college football because the game's complex, involves lots of people/players and requires excellent decision making/leadership. Coach Wilson needs to man up and start winning, this coming year will probably tell the tale on his Bloomington stay.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 10:53 PM

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Mark May of ESPN and several BIG Network folks have hammered Purdue for their firing of Danny Hope. May said "Purdue's not an elite program and it's considered a good season when they reach a bowl". This is the stuff that fans HATE to hear but it's true, Purdue could've done a lot worse than Danny Hope these last four years.

It's a huge gamble by Purdue and their people because they could easily slide back into the Jim Colleto years. I gotta throw this in here...just read an article over on Rivals home page ranking the current job openings and no surprise, Auburn is ranked number one. It went on to rank the ten openings and Purdue was at number six on the list. At the very end of the article, it stated "just for the record, if Kentucky was still open they would've been ahead of Purdue on this list". I about pissed my pants but I'd have to agree, the Kentucky job has more potential than the Purdue job. Kentucky fans have filled Commonwealth Stadium during 3-8 campaigns, Purdue fans generally stay away in droves at the first sign of a losing campaign.

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Kentucky is not a better job than Purdue. Purdue has better history, NFL talent, and reputation. You're right that its a gamble to let Hope go but it shows that were not okay with mediocrity.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:16 PM

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boiler1987 wrote:

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--- waylonjennings wrote:

Mark May of ESPN and several BIG Network folks have hammered Purdue for their firing of Danny Hope. May said "Purdue's not an elite program and it's considered a good season when they reach a bowl". This is the stuff that fans HATE to hear but it's true, Purdue could've done a lot worse than Danny Hope these last four years.

It's a huge gamble by Purdue and their people because they could easily slide back into the Jim Colleto years. I gotta throw this in here...just read an article over on Rivals home page ranking the current job openings and no surprise, Auburn is ranked number one. It went on to rank the ten openings and Purdue was at number six on the list. At the very end of the article, it stated "just for the record, if Kentucky was still open they would've been ahead of Purdue on this list". I about pissed my pants but I'd have to agree, the Kentucky job has more potential than the Purdue job. Kentucky fans have filled Commonwealth Stadium during 3-8 campaigns, Purdue fans generally stay away in droves at the first sign of a losing campaign.

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Kentucky is not a better job than Purdue. Purdue has better history, NFL talent, and reputation. You're right that its a gamble to let Hope go but it shows that were not okay with mediocrity.
You're not OK with mediocrity? What in the hell do you actually think Purdue's been in football the last fifty years????? Purdue is a shining example of a mediocre, bottom end Big Ten program and has been for many a moon. This statement excludes the Tiller years of course but by and large, Purdue football, like IU football, has been irrelevant.

Regarding PU>UK in football, that's HIGHLY debatable and you know it. I won't go into the debate here but it's very interesting that respected sport's writers are openly ranking the UK program above Purdue's.

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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:25 PM

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boiler1987 wrote:

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--- waylonjennings wrote:

Mark May of ESPN and several BIG Network folks have hammered Purdue for their firing of Danny Hope. May said "Purdue's not an elite program and it's considered a good season when they reach a bowl". This is the stuff that fans HATE to hear but it's true, Purdue could've done a lot worse than Danny Hope these last four years.

It's a huge gamble by Purdue and their people because they could easily slide back into the Jim Colleto years. I gotta throw this in here...just read an article over on Rivals home page ranking the current job openings and no surprise, Auburn is ranked number one. It went on to rank the ten openings and Purdue was at number six on the list. At the very end of the article, it stated "just for the record, if Kentucky was still open they would've been ahead of Purdue on this list". I about pissed my pants but I'd have to agree, the Kentucky job has more potential than the Purdue job. Kentucky fans have filled Commonwealth Stadium during 3-8 campaigns, Purdue fans generally stay away in droves at the first sign of a losing campaign.

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Kentucky is not a better job than Purdue. Purdue has better history, NFL talent, and reputation. You're right that its a gamble to let Hope go but it shows that were not okay with mediocrity.
You're not OK with mediocrity? What in the hell do you actually think Purdue's been in football the last fifty years????? Purdue is a shining example of a mediocre, bottom end Big Ten program and has been for many a moon. This statement excludes the Tiller years of course but by and large, Purdue football, like IU football, has been irrelevant.

Regarding PU>UK in football, that's HIGHLY debatable and you know it. I won't go into the debate here but it's very interesting that respected sport's writers are openly ranking the UK program above Purdue's.

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I think Purdue can and should aim it's sights on what Tiller did. Purdue has been mediocre over the last 50 years but iu has been abysmal. With the right coach and a willing administration, Purdue can get back to the Joe Tiller era.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:32 PM

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I can't really argue with that, IU has been unusually bad and that's on the past administrations lack of commitment.

I would love to see IU and PU playing the Bucket game to see who goes to the BIG Championship game...the Bucket should mean more than just playing for pride and some lousy Detroit bowl. It would bolster high school football in the state if IU and PU had really solid programs too.
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Posted: 11/30/2012 6:02 PM

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The two coaches in tonights game Kent and No Illinois could very well get that job.
I follow OSU and Darrell Hazel is a great coach with connection in Ohio and he also coached at Rutgers.
Doernen was oc at Wisconsin and has done nice things at NoILL. Purdue has chased kids from Texas and Florida and they have recruited ok. The most football talent in this conference is eastern Ohio and western PA. They need to get players from there and get someone who is connected in those regions.
Indianapolis has become much better football recruiting area recently and this year is best in recent memory for the amount of players.

Purdue wants a good coach they had better pay up. The  recent expansion has shown that the money is there, but I have always felt PU tried to get by on the cheap.

Also Mark May can wrap his mouth around a tail pipe for an hour and tv would be better. He needs to look at the crap salad being served at his alma mater PITT. They are terrible and have become a revolving door. He is a jerk



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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:45 PM

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In my opinion Morgan Burke is the guy that should get fired!

Where is his accountability for decision making?

I know he is a favorite son (as a former swim team member and alum) but in my opinion has done little to improve their athletic program, if at all, since taking the job 15 - 20 years ago!

He needs to go back to NW Indiana and get a job in the steel mills where he came from.

On second thought - keep him around so he can further degrade their athletic's and make poor decisions. It is good for IU!

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Posted: 12/1/2012 4:38 PM

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In my opinion Morgan Burke is the guy that should get fired!

Where is his accountability for decision making?

I know he is a favorite son (as a former swim team member and alum) but in my opinion has done little to improve their athletic program, if at all, since taking the job 15 - 20 years ago!

He needs to go back to NW Indiana and get a job in the steel mills where he came from.

On second thought - keep him around so he can further degrade their athletic's and make poor decisions. It is good for IU!

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He improved all sports programs (built one of the best aquatic centers, built new soccer complex, building new baseball stadium, hired Tiller and Painter) under a strict budget. You're crazy if you think he's done a bad job.
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