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Thank you World Cup for reminding me why soccer lags behind...

Posted: 6/22/2014 8:11 PM

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Many other sports in the American consciousness. I was really getting into it. Game ends on a garbage goal and a draw. Everyone on the field looks like they lost regardless of team. This sets up a USA vs Germany match where each team would advance from the group should that match end in a draw. Hmmmm. I guess everyone would be celebrating their magnificent non-decision at that point. Just a stupid, stupid mechanic that detracts from the sport in a major way IMO.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 8:16 PM

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No ties in the next round.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 8:21 PM

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Yes, but this round still sucks with ties and the goofy extra time rules.  Why not stop the clock so you don't have to add time. 
bloodbought wrote: No ties in the next round.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 8:29 PM

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Ties in any sport are such BS!
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Posted: 6/22/2014 8:55 PM

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Many other sports in the American consciousness. I was really getting into it. Game ends on a garbage goal and a draw. Everyone on the field looks like they lost regardless of team. This sets up a USA vs Germany match where each team would advance from the group should that match end in a draw. Hmmmm. I guess everyone would be celebrating their magnificent non-decision at that point. Just a stupid, stupid mechanic that detracts from the sport in a major way IMO.

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Thanks for reminding me that you're a ******* redneck. Idiot.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 9:13 PM

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I guess they added 4 minutes of extra time, but when USA substituted, our guy tried to do the super slow walk off and milk the clock, so they added another minute. And we lost in the last minute.  Knucklehead.  I should have said lost the lead.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 10:25 PM

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Bradley not clearling the ball with a kick in the last 30 seconds, from mid-field, was inexplicable.  He got the ball taken from him and then Ronaldo was off to the races. 

That, coupled with our defenders not getting back.  Cameron had a bad day, having a big hand in both of the goals scored against us.  He simply was not hustling back in the end, had a brain lapse.  Not sure why we hadn't stacked the box on defense.  Just a shocking finish... but none would have mattered if Bradley just kicked the damn ball out of bounds. Disappointing after a great effort.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 10:39 PM

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Soccer lags behind other sports in America because ties are possible? They are also possible in hockey and American football. I guess those sports are pretty crappy too.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 10:43 PM

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Many other sports in the American consciousness. I was really getting into it. Game ends on a garbage goal and a draw. Everyone on the field looks like they lost regardless of team. This sets up a USA vs Germany match where each team would advance from the group should that match end in a draw. Hmmmm. I guess everyone would be celebrating their magnificent non-decision at that point. Just a stupid, stupid mechanic that detracts from the sport in a major way IMO.

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Thanks for reminding me that you're a ******* redneck. Idiot.
Count me in on the redneck semiliterate camp. The rules in soccer are what they are to the purest. To many Americans we don't get some of the rules like the offside. It's like hobbling horses in the Derby. WTF. You don't like to watch athletes turned loose?
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Posted: 6/22/2014 11:20 PM

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AAU basketball tournaments also use a round-robin format to determine which teams move on to the elimination bracket.  Obviously, there are no "1 point awarded for tie" situations but it is the same premise.

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KyCardinal wrote: Many other sports in the American consciousness. I was really getting into it. Game ends on a garbage goal and a draw. Everyone on the field looks like they lost regardless of team. This sets up a USA vs Germany match where each team would advance from the group should that match end in a draw. Hmmmm. I guess everyone would be celebrating their magnificent non-decision at that point. Just a stupid, stupid mechanic that detracts from the sport in a major way IMO.
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Posted: 6/22/2014 11:26 PM

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Dude you cannot play soccer or hockey without an offsides call. The game just doesn't work like that.

And to the OP, why don't you check the ratings? It's higher than the NBA Finals and it's just Group Play.

Lastly, the format for the World Cup is perfect. You don't spend 4 years waiting and 2 freakin years trying to qualify, only to make it and lose in the 1st round on penalty kicks. Pay attention to the sport for more than 5 minutes once ever four years and then *****.
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Posted: 6/23/2014 6:44 AM

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I think they need more from Bradley or need to move to the side. He is getting dominated in the middle-I like a bigger guy, or a more aggressive guy-why in the heck was Donovan left off the team?

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Posted: 6/23/2014 7:28 AM

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I understand the appeal of soccer. I hope the semi-pro soccer franchise does well in Louisville and that we get a MLS team down the road sometime. I hope US does well in the World Cup. I'd still rather watch most other sports than soccer personally, however. Just isn't my cup of tea. More power to you guys that dig it though, I don't judge.

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Posted: 6/23/2014 7:38 AM

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I'm with you on the timekeeping aspect of the game. I truly don't understand why the ref can keep stoppage time on his own stop watch but can't signal a timekeeper to start and stop the clock. Fix that and the fake injuries and the game would be much better.

As for the US team, they won one they should have lost (Ghana played better than them) and had a draw when they should have won (they outplayed Portugal), so I guess it evens out some. They just need to make sure they don't get curb stomped against Germany and, if they do, then pull for Portugal to draw or barely win.
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Posted: 6/23/2014 7:59 AM

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and, for those that live in a bubble.....the NBA, that everyone here seems to make fun of, has rating that blow college bball out of the water.  and I'm not a huge soccer fan at all and never played....although i wish we would have got an MLS team.....that would be a pretty cool party every game
Feesh wrote: Dude you cannot play soccer or hockey without an offsides call. The game just doesn't work like that.

And to the OP, why don't you check the ratings? It's higher than the NBA Finals and it's just Group Play.

Lastly, the format for the World Cup is perfect. You don't spend 4 years waiting and 2 freakin years trying to qualify, only to make it and lose in the 1st round on penalty kicks. Pay attention to the sport for more than 5 minutes once ever four years and then *****.
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Posted: 6/23/2014 8:56 AM

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You have to give Futbol a chance.. a REAL chance. Futbol is an amazing game that takes a whole lot of skill, and if you take the time to understand it you appreciate it a whole lot more. I don't get the "boring" argument of soccer when baseball is just as boring if not more, for even a longer period of a time. The difference is, is that Americans took the time to learn and understand baseball, and turn it into a past time more so than just the sport. Soccer doesn't need anything more than that.

You have to understand the point system, the strategy that comes behind draws and losses, the formations on the pitch, counter-attacks, subs and transfers. It is a whole lot more than just kicking a ball across a field. You sit and watch the skill unfold in between goals. And it may take 90 minutes for the only one, but it makes it even that much more worth it.

It isn't even remotely silly to us that we are the ONLY country that does not glorify Soccer? Hell if anything we love to party and have days off work, every other country shuts itself down for these games and the support of their national team.
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Posted: 6/23/2014 9:09 AM

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NewYorkCard wrote: I guess they added 4 minutes of extra time, but when USA substituted, our guy tried to do the super slow walk off and milk the clock, so they added another minute. And we lost in the last minute.  Knucklehead.  I should have said lost the lead.
That is a non-factor.  They add stoppage time for however long it takes for him to walk off.  They usually add 30 seconds for a substitution anyway.  So they would have scored with 30 seconds left instead of a minute left.  La ti da.


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Posted: 6/23/2014 9:46 AM

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Getting dominated?  I have a different opinion.  Bradley is the engine of our team.  His playmaking ability is by far the best on the team.  Lastly, if you like a bigger, more aggressive player, then why do you invoke Donovan.  Donovan is not very big at all.  I think leaving Donovan off was the correct choice.  I never thought I would see the day where people are upset over a draw with Portugal.  Jurrgen Klinsmann has the touch of gold IMO.  By far, this is the best we have ever looked in international play.  The only real problem right now is the back line.  Mainly, Geoff Cameron.  He gift wrapped them their first goal and had horrible marking on Varela for the last goal.  Bradley's give away was bad.  But, the back line was deplorable. 
Chiponmyshoulder wrote: I think they need more from Bradley or need to move to the side. He is getting dominated in the middle-I like a bigger guy, or a more aggressive guy-why in the heck was Donovan left off the team?
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Posted: 6/23/2014 10:40 AM

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grimmcard23 wrote: Getting dominated?  I have a different opinion.  Bradley is the engine of our team.  His playmaking ability is by far the best on the team.  Lastly, if you like a bigger, more aggressive player, then why do you invoke Donovan.  Donovan is not very big at all.  I think leaving Donovan off was the correct choice.  I never thought I would see the day where people are upset over a draw with Portugal.  Jurrgen Klinsmann has the touch of gold IMO.  By far, this is the best we have ever looked in international play.  The only real problem right now is the back line.  Mainly, Geoff Cameron.  He gift wrapped them their first goal and had horrible marking on Varela for the last goal.  Bradley's give away was bad.  But, the back line was deplorable. 
Chiponmyshoulder wrote: I think they need more from Bradley or need to move to the side. He is getting dominated in the middle-I like a bigger guy, or a more aggressive guy-why in the heck was Donovan left off the team?

Agreed, I was shocked at first leaving Donovan off the team, but Klinsmann is coaching for the future. He has said himself he is changing the brand of US soccer. We still have our weaknesses, but this is the best I have seen the national team look in YEARS, and it is against great competition. Ghana has had our number the last two cups and we nearly and should have beaten the #4 team in the world in Portugal. I have picked Germany as my favorite to win the WC, but I think the US will come out this game and not settle for a draw. We make a statement with a win Thursday.
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Posted: 6/23/2014 11:02 AM

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Soccer lags behind other sports in America because ties are possible? They are also possible in hockey and American football. I guess those sports are pretty crappy too.

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I'm sorry, please show me where ties are a regular occurrence in football? They have been removed from the game for all intents and purposes for the same reasons major soccer should remove them. Couple them with the absurd group format in World Cup play and you have this convoluted mess. Who says hockey is a major sport?

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