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ESPN thinks we are going to be 7-5 this season. Seriously?

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Posted: 7/15/2014 11:42 AM

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I hope we are at least 8 wins, preferably 9 or 10. 

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Posted: 7/15/2014 11:51 AM

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7 would be a disspointment, but it's not happening

8, I would feel, meh

9, I'd be happy, but feel we let a couple get away

10 - i think we should win 10 regular season games.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 11:56 AM

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9 is where I'm at. I think we get one from FSU, Clemson and ND while dropping one somewhere that's a bit less expected.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 11:58 AM

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The nation's 37th ranked offense, as projected?

Is the 7-5 some sort of expected win-loss, based on formula, or does ESPN name names?

If you chalk up FSU, Clemson, and ND all as losses, where are the other 2?  Syracuse?  BC? VA?

I refuse to believe we'll lose to Miami.

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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:03 PM

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The article's ranking @ 37 of a Petrino led UofL offense full of returning skill players and most of the O-line was all I needed to see to know the writer had no credibillity.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:06 PM

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ESPN is the poster group for lazy reporting/analyzing. So, them having us at 7-5 makes sense to me. They probably base it on moving to the ACC and losing Teddy alone, without actually putting any effort into looking at our team's pieces.

They have us and UK as essentially the same, which is funny in itself. My guess it's nothing more than a dart on a wall by this 'analyst' and he did little to no research.

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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:08 PM

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if you read the methodology you automatically get dinged for changing coaches. Whereas our offense will be better by having Petrino....our running game will be far better and OL will be much better

Not sure why everyone writes off the ND game as a loss. We win that by two tds.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:10 PM

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The Yahtzee Master versus the Chess Master . . . even with equal teams (Ha!) . . . you've got one guy constantly rolling dice, another man abusing pawns and taking queens.
WheatWasBestCard wrote: ESPN is the poster group for lazy reporting/analyzing. So, them having us at 7-5 makes sense to me. They probably base it on moving to the ACC and losing Teddy alone, without actually putting any effort into looking into our team's pieces.

They have us and UK as essentially the same, which is funny in itself.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:17 PM

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Lots of unknowns heading into next season.  I know Gardner has impressed in the Spring Game, but how well does that translate onto the field?  Will our defense be better?  Will we be able to protect the QB?  Does Dyer finally break out like we expected him to?  Offensively, I think we'll be fine, but I don't really know much about our defense this year.  How do we replace Pryor, Preston Brown, Marcus Smith, and the like?  OL we lost some depth in the offseason which will hurt us if we lose a starter or 2 during the regular season.

I personally think that expecting 10 wins in the first season of the ACC is setting yourself up for disappointment.  10 wins would be absolutely awesome, but with a brand new coach and scheme (to the players), going into a much tougher conference than the AAC, and with a new QB and the loss of major contributors on defense, saying 7-5 is about what I would expect.  I despise ESPN, but I feel like this is a pretty realistic expectation.  Just get to a bowl game this year, maybe catch an upset of a well-known team like Notre Dame or FSU, and get recruits to notice - and then we improve in the following 2-3 years to where we can realistically compete for the ACC crown and a playoff shot.  If we are already there, I will be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not going to be dissatisfied with this season if we make a bowl game.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:25 PM

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GoCardz wrote: 9 is where I'm at. I think we get one from FSU, Clemson and ND while dropping one somewhere that's a bit less expected.


Im with you when trying to be completely unbiased.
Here are, in my opinion, the three most likely scenarios:


Most Likely: 
-  Beat one of FSU/ND/Clemson
-  Drop one we shouldn't Drop
=  9-3 record.

Most likely (tied with the above)
-  Beat two of FSU/ND/Clemson
-  Drop two we shouldn't Drop
=  9-3 record

Third most likely:
-  Beat one of FSU/ND/Clemson
-  Drop two we shouldn't Drop
=  8-4 record.



Beyond that I can see scenarios where we are as bad as 7-5 or as good at 10-2, but if I'm a betting man Im not betting my hard earned money on either of those two.
However, if having to choose between 10-2 and 7-5 on a straight up bet, I would probably take the 10-2, because I don't see any scenario where we lose 5 games.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:27 PM

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OriginalScott wrote: Lots of unknowns heading into next season.  I know Gardner has impressed in the Spring Game, but how well does that translate onto the field?  Will our defense be better?  Will we be able to protect the QB?  Does Dyer finally break out like we expected him to?  Offensively, I think we'll be fine, but I don't really know much about our defense this year.  How do we replace Pryor, Preston Brown, Marcus Smith, and the like?  OL we lost some depth in the offseason which will hurt us if we lose a starter or 2 during the regular season.

I personally think that expecting 10 wins in the first season of the ACC is setting yourself up for disappointment.  10 wins would be absolutely awesome, but with a brand new coach and scheme (to the players), going into a much tougher conference than the AAC, and with a new QB and the loss of major contributors on defense, saying 7-5 is about what I would expect.  I despise ESPN, but I feel like this is a pretty realistic expectation.  Just get to a bowl game this year, maybe catch an upset of a well-known team like Notre Dame or FSU, and get recruits to notice - and then we improve in the following 2-3 years to where we can realistically compete for the ACC crown and a playoff shot.  If we are already there, I will be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not going to be dissatisfied with this season if we make a bowl game.



The only main point where I disagree with you and many others is the thought that beating clemson or ND would be some big upset.

The only big upset on the schedule would be FSU, as they are the national champs.  Otherwise, I would expect any of the recent UofL teams to go toe to toe with the recent Clemson or ND teams.  Yes, we had a coaching change, but the affects of that remain to be seen.  Its entirely possible the offense improves to the same extent, or more, that the defense declines.

Just my opinion.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:28 PM

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I personally think that anyone expecting 10 or more wins is just setting themselves up for disappointment. At the end of the day, we are still undergoing a coaching change - a major one at that. The way that Charlie ran a program, and the way that he coached and taught, is completely different when compared to Bobby. Both great coaches, but it can be a huge adjustment for the players going from doing things one way, then changing to a completely different way. From all accounts, it has been a very smooth transition...but you never know until you put the pads on and play a game.

Also, don't underestimate the fact that we're entering the season with 0 eligible QBs on the roster that have ever played a meaningful snap. The QB position has a lot of talent, and I personally think Gardner is the next big thing coming from our program, but he is very much unproven. How will he fair against some of the teams that we have on our schedule? This isn't Teddy playing with Temple any longer.

Lastly, how will our team respond to the grind of playing multiple Top 25 caliber teams throughout the season. For years, especially since all of the current players have been here, we have played a MAXIMUM of 1 or 2 ranked teams per year. There is something to be said for the physical and mental fatigue of playing 4-5 Top 25 teams over the course of the season. Injuries can mount up when you're playing Miami, Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame and NC State in the same season.

Overall, I'm an optimist. But I'm cautious when being optimistic. I think that we'll go 8-4 or 9-3. Anything better than that and I will be thrilled. I don't think we go 7-5 but it wouldn't necessarily shock me. There are a lot of new things working against us this season. New system to break in, new QB, mostly new defense and all new schemes on that side of the ball, new (and tougher) opponents - and something that goes along with that, scouting 9 new teams that we've never really played.

I think 8 or 9 wins should be considered a very good year and a great start to the second Petrino era. The ACC will be a great conference home for us, but expecting to walk in and dominate (winning 10+ games) may be a bit much to expect. Can we do it? Damn right we can. But the Cards will have some hurdles to jump to get there.


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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:29 PM

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I'll add one more question here. I see alot of people responding to "people expecting 10 wins"

While I have heard plenty of people say 10 wins is possible, I dont' think I have heard anyone EXPECTING 10 wins.

Where are these people?
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:30 PM

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BIGtCardFan wrote:  NC State
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:31 PM

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me
BPSUL wrote: I'll add one more question here. I see alot of people responding to "people expecting 10 wins"

While I have heard plenty of people say 10 wins is possible, I dont' think I have heard anyone EXPECTING 10 wins.

Where are these people?
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:35 PM

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I see. So everyone is responding to CardTopper.

Man, you have created quite a stir :)
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:35 PM

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ESPiN projecting a 7-5 record is their equivalent of a shoulder shrug.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:37 PM

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no, just saying i think we get 10 during the regular season
BPSUL wrote: I see. So everyone is responding to CardTopper.

Man, you have created quite a stir :)
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:40 PM

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People keep citing personnel losses and the loss of Teddy as if it's something major.  IT'S NOT.  Every team goes through the exact same thing every year.  College football rosters have over 100 players for a reason.  How many QB's has Saban gone through at Alabama.  

I'm not expecting a big drop off for two reasons:

1) Petrino
2) Charlie's roster

I was wondering who was going to replace Pryor and Smith at safety, and we have 8 guys back there who were rated 3* or higher, six of whom are from Florida, chomping at the bit to be the next Calvin Pryor.  The clincher is that all of them check in at a taller height and greater weight than both Pryor and Smith.  

I'm not going to go so far as to say we're loaded, at least not to where we can simply replace experience with equivalent talent and not feel any drop off, but last year was never pegged to be "the year".  This year was.  And that is what our roster reflects when you look down through it at the number of reshirted freshmen, redshirted sophomores, and reshirted juniors.


CatFansince73: Louisville could sign three quarterbacks like Teddy Bridgewater and still lose to UK by two or three touchdowns next year. 
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Posted: 7/15/2014 12:43 PM

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Bwahahaha smh. Realistic expectation my @ss.

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Lots of unknowns heading into next season.  I know Gardner has impressed in the Spring Game, but how well does that translate onto the field?  Will our defense be better?  Will we be able to protect the QB?  Does Dyer finally break out like we expected him to?  Offensively, I think we'll be fine, but I don't really know much about our defense this year.  How do we replace Pryor, Preston Brown, Marcus Smith, and the like?  OL we lost some depth in the offseason which will hurt us if we lose a starter or 2 during the regular season.

I personally think that expecting 10 wins in the first season of the ACC is setting yourself up for disappointment.  10 wins would be absolutely awesome, but with a brand new coach and scheme (to the players), going into a much tougher conference than the AAC, and with a new QB and the loss of major contributors on defense, saying 7-5 is about what I would expect.  I despise ESPN, but I feel like this is a pretty realistic expectation.  Just get to a bowl game this year, maybe catch an upset of a well-known team like Notre Dame or FSU, and get recruits to notice - and then we improve in the following 2-3 years to where we can realistically compete for the ACC crown and a playoff shot.  If we are already there, I will be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not going to be dissatisfied with this season if we make a bowl game.

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