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Ed Orgeron

Posted: 11/11/2013 1:50 PM

Ed Orgeron 


Is doing a great job as interim coach at USC. 

If USC doesn't hire him as head coach after the season, and it's probable that they won't, he would be an exciting candidate for Illinois.

He'd bring a solid staff and he's a better recruiter than Zook.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 2:01 PM

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Agreed!

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Posted: 11/11/2013 2:06 PM

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guy is the Cajun Ron Zook.  pass.

i want a guy with a proven HC track record.  i don't really care if it's FBS or FCS.  Orgeron had his chance at Ole Miss and failed.

None of the last 4 we've hired had what i would call a "proven" record where they won or competed for multiple championships over multiple years.  that's what I am looking for.  Oddly enough, Jerry Kill fits that bill.  what a great hire by Minnesota.
CalumetCityIllini wrote:

Agreed!

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Posted: 11/11/2013 3:45 PM

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illiniranger wrote:

None of the last 4 we've hired had what i would call a "proven" record where they won or competed for multiple championships over multiple years.  that's what I am looking for.  Oddly enough, Jerry Kill fits that bill.  what a great hire by Minnesota.
I'd love to see a compilation of your candidates that fit this criteria and would consider coming to Illinois.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 3:58 PM

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Speaking of Orgeron, just a random out loud thought.  What if we hired David Cutcliffe (before people laugh, we would die for the year Duke is having), AND hire a guy like John Holocek as head coach in waiting (HCIW)?  

Holocek is only 41, and could learn a lot from a guy like Cutcliffe for 5+ years or so.  He knows the Midwest landscape pretty well, and has a tangible connection to the school from our last decent era.  Cutcliffe also has credibility, pedigree, and connections to southern recruiting.  He's 59 so age shouldn't be an issue to recruits since we have the HCIW to step in right away.  

If we truly want to build the program over the long haul, something similar to this could be a great way to do it as opposed to retreads from big names, job hoppers such as Petrino (although I'm all for Petrino if he's an option), and other baggage guys like Butch Davis.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 4:13 PM

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Its a little easier to win at Illiniois than in the SEC west, also he is a relentless recruiter, and I doubjt Cutcliffe would come here, he turned down Tennessee
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Posted: 11/11/2013 4:16 PM

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I thought Ron Zook was the Cajun Ron Zook.eekcool
illiniranger wrote: guy is the Cajun Ron Zook.  pass.

i want a guy with a proven HC track record.  i don't really care if it's FBS or FCS.  Orgeron had his chance at Ole Miss and failed.

None of the last 4 we've hired had what i would call a "proven" record where they won or competed for multiple championships over multiple years.  that's what I am looking for.  Oddly enough, Jerry Kill fits that bill.  what a great hire by Minnesota.
CalumetCityIllini wrote:

Agreed!

 

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Posted: 11/11/2013 4:22 PM

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illiniranger wrote: guy is the Cajun Ron Zook.  pass.

i want a guy with a proven HC track record.  i don't really care if it's FBS or FCS.  Orgeron had his chance at Ole Miss and failed.
A coach that fails at one school can succeed at another. 

Cutcliffe, who was the coach at Ole Miss before Orgeron failed, is now succeeding at Duke

Who is to say that Orgeron cannot be successful the second time around? Especially now that he is succeeding at USC. It's silly to dismiss a guy like him just because he failed at a bottom tier SEC program

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Posted: 11/11/2013 4:26 PM

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I would hope Illinois is more attractive than Duke.
illinoisfan wrote: Its a little easier to win at Illiniois than in the SEC west, also he is a relentless recruiter, and I doubjt Cutcliffe would come here, he turned down Tennessee
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Posted: 11/11/2013 4:31 PM

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akldmo wrote: I would hope Illinois is more attractive than Duke.
illinoisfan wrote: Its a little easier to win at Illiniois than in the SEC west, also he is a relentless recruiter, and I doubjt Cutcliffe would come here, he turned down Tennessee
It's not more attractive than Tennessee

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Posted: 11/11/2013 4:36 PM

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Obviously; my point was he turned down TN, but then took the Duke job?  Like I said, I'd hope Illinois is more attractive than Duke from a FB standpoint.  I think pairing somebody like him (doesn't have to be exactly him) with a John Holecek could be a great thing for the program.  
JimmyTheLayup wrote:
akldmo wrote: I would hope Illinois is more attractive than Duke.
illinoisfan wrote: Its a little easier to win at Illiniois than in the SEC west, also he is a relentless recruiter, and I doubjt Cutcliffe would come here, he turned down Tennessee
It's not more attractive than Tennessee
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Posted: 11/11/2013 5:04 PM

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Orgeron, Cutliffe, Brock Spack, Dino Babers, OC Cam Cameron from LSU as HC candidates and hiring Holacek as LB coach to start would be a great start.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 5:04 PM

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akldmo wrote: Obviously; my point was he turned down TN, but then took the Duke job?  Like I said, I'd hope Illinois is more attractive than Duke from a FB standpoint.  I think pairing somebody like him (doesn't have to be exactly him) with a John Holecek could be a great thing for the program.  
Duke hired Cutcliffe on December 14th, 2007. 

Fulmer coached his last game at Tennessee on November 29th, 2008.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 5:16 PM

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Gotcha; can't hurt to make a run at him.  Obviously, if my idea were to come to fruition, there'd be many moving parts that would have to be aligned.  If it were to happen, could be the foundation of building AND sustaining long-term success here.  Like a previous poster said, there are quite a few candidates that would suffice for that role, but would a guy like Holocek want to give up a good HS gig in Chi town to come to our dumpster fire?
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akldmo wrote: Obviously; my point was he turned down TN, but then took the Duke job?  Like I said, I'd hope Illinois is more attractive than Duke from a FB standpoint.  I think pairing somebody like him (doesn't have to be exactly him) with a John Holecek could be a great thing for the program.  
Duke hired Cutcliffe on December 14th, 2007. 

Fulmer coached his last game at Tennessee on November 29th, 2008.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 5:18 PM

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You and I agree about this.
SWEDISHCHEEF wrote:
illiniranger wrote:

None of the last 4 we've hired had what i would call a "proven" record where they won or competed for multiple championships over multiple years.  that's what I am looking for.  Oddly enough, Jerry Kill fits that bill.  what a great hire by Minnesota.
I'd love to see a compilation of your candidates that fit this criteria and would consider coming to Illinois.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 5:51 PM

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Id take Orgeron in a heartbeat if he agrees to retain Cubit. He upgrades recruiting, brings a defensive background, and a good staff on that side of the ball.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 6:21 PM

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Cam Cameron is one of those guys who shouldn't lead a program or be a head coach.

Orgeron has virtually no HC pedigree and when he's been an HC he's failed. He's winning with high level recruits who should be winning to begin with. I hope USC hires him cause they'll fall even more.

Cutcliffe I could buy but he's getting long in the tooth.
Topiary wrote: Orgeron, Cutliffe, Brock Spack, Dino Babers, OC Cam Cameron from LSU as HC candidates and hiring Holacek as LB coach to start would be a great start.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:12 PM

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So Kirby Wilson is out and John Holocek is in as the totally unqualified alumni hypothetical savior du jour? You guys gotta keep me up to date on this stuff.
#TEAMBECKMAN

Last edited 11/11/2013 8:13 PM by DerrickRose

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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:31 PM

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Brilliant!
77Grange wrote: I thought Ron Zook was the Cajun Ron Zook.eekcool
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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:52 PM

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DerrickRose wrote: So Kirby Wilson is out and John Holocek is in as the totally unqualified alumni hypothetical savior du jour? You guys gotta keep me up to date on this stuff.
I'm a big fan of Kirby Wilson.
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