I'd have to chew on this a while before taking a dip at it.

harleydave wrote: I'd have to chew on this a while before taking a dip at it.

Take your time so you don't trip up and penalize yourself

Boomer64gaw wrote:

Isn't there something you can do?

What a stupid thread

BashCourtIllini wrote:

    
Gomer, Goober....does it really matter?
   

illiniminer wrote:

rats60 wrote:

Dbackfed wrote: Unfortunately, this hire will be the equivilent of Notre Dame's George O'Leary hire. I doubt Beckman even had to lie on his resume due to Thomas' desperation during the hiring process. Beckman will be seen as one of the worst coaches ever to be in charge of a BCS school in modern history.

 Beckman wasn't even the worst hire last year, Ellis Johnson at Southern Miss was and it isn't even close.

S. Miss. evidently agrees because they fired him after one year.

Some folks just learn how to do things a little quicker.

were you drunk? Or, did you fatfinger it?

I'll have plenty to say on this after signing day.

Hopeeternal wrote:

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/06/ill inois-coach-tim-beckman-might-have-been-caught-on- camera-using-chewing-tobacco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbrfslJhTI0

I give up posting links here. I use to copy and past them and it worked fine. Now I get a space I edit the post take the space out and it returns when I hit the post button.

Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December

Why wait until after signing day?

TheBeastisback wrote: were you drunk? Or, did you fatfinger it?

I'll have plenty to say on this after signing day.

Hopeeternal wrote:

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/06/ill inois-coach-tim-beckman-might-have-been-caught-on- camera-using-chewing-tobacco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbrfslJhTI0

I give up posting links here. I use to copy and past them and it worked fine. Now I get a space I edit the post take the space out and it returns when I hit the post button.

You mean sorta like Guenther and Zook did?

HairClubforSelf wrote: Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December

More like Bush & Cheney.

ahsftbll32 wrote: You mean sorta like Guenther and Zook did?

HairClubforSelf wrote: Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December

thestilt wrote: More like Bush & Cheney.

ahsftbll32 wrote: You mean sorta like Guenther and Zook did?

HairClubforSelf wrote: Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December

more like Abbott and Costello

And now you guys are letting it get even more stupid.

There you go, blame it on Bush. Celebrity status doesn't do a president much good when it comes to decision making. Look no further than the celebrity in chief.

I certainly agree that Beckman has no legacy as of yet, and I doubt he ever builds one, any where. But he has certainly built a hell of a resume for stepping on his own throat. Forget the record - his problems lie mostly with general decision making and his "other than normal coaching" actions and antics have made us all look bad.

He seems to be a very poor decision maker - a real amatuer in most cases. The sooner he is gone the better for Illinois football. He is useless.

strange though - he has a chance of putting up a better effort next season with a decent if not really good recruiting class that will probably see a lot of Fr on the field next season. But - I'm confident we see more of the same clown act as last season.

Big Bob in Brandon

buglebob wrote: I certainly agree that Beckman has no legacy as of yet, and I doubt he ever builds one, any where. But he has certainly built a hell of a resume for stepping on his own throat. Forget the record - his problems lie mostly with general decision making and his "other than normal coaching" actions and antics have made us all look bad.

He seems to be a very poor decision maker - a real amatuer in most cases. The sooner he is gone the better for Illinois football. He is useless.

strange though - he has a chance of putting up a better effort next season with a decent if not really good recruiting class that will probably see a lot of Fr on the field next season. But - I'm confident we see more of the same clown act as last season.

Big Bob in Brandon

I think we are looking at a 2-10 season again and maybe worse with no conference wins.  Beckman may go down as the only IL coach to be fired and never win a conference game. If he lost 20 pounds last season, imagine how much he will lose this coming season.  I guess his lasagna has not helped him keep on the weight.

Unfortunately, comparatively speaking, the Zooker's lookin' like a Hall-of-Famer at this point.

ahsftbll32 wrote: You mean sorta like Guenther and Zook did?

HairClubforSelf wrote: Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December

So, comparitively speaking, each coach had 2 wins and 0 conference wins in their first season.  What sense does it make to compare a guys 7 year career to 1 season?  I really can't believe people are talking about a "legacy" after 1 year.  Let it play out. 

CapitalIllini wrote:
Unfortunately, comparatively speaking, the Zooker's lookin' like a Hall-of-Famer at this point.

ahsftbll32 wrote: You mean sorta like Guenther and Zook did?

HairClubforSelf wrote: Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December

TB's back so it's playing out.  I, for one, hope the staff turns it around.  Otherwise, it'll be another coupla, few years before we're on the upswing.  But even though there likely won't be many wins next season,  TB's team must start showing significant progress and promise, in terms of player development, player production, player strength and conditioning, fundamentals, schemes, game management, enthusiasm, etc.  There's no way around it.  The UI administration and fans alike need something to hang their hat on while waiting for the W-L record to improve.

STLINI wrote: So, comparitively speaking, each coach had 2 wins and 0 conference wins in their first season.  What sense does it make to compare a guys 7 year career to 1 season?  I really can't believe people are talking about a "legacy" after 1 year.  Let it play out. 

CapitalIllini wrote:
Unfortunately, comparatively speaking, the Zooker's lookin' like a Hall-of-Famer at this point.

ahsftbll32 wrote: You mean sorta like Guenther and Zook did?

HairClubforSelf wrote: Beckman and Thomas' legacy will be very similiar to this

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nc...ooley-dave-hart

Both will leave it for the next two guys to clean up which hopefully happens next from next October to December