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Playing harder isn't a plan.

Posted: 01/19/2013 6:18 PM

Playing harder isn't a plan. 


Last week, when Bill Walton was doing the play-by-play for the Cal game, he observed Cal as it was falling behind. Not quite sure who suggested that perhaps they might play harder to turn things around. The Redhead Plato dismissed the idea with the comment that they needed a plan, and "Playing harder isn't a plan."

Cal has a short bench. It has a couple of decent back court players, but weak under the basket. Monty really hasn't seemed to articulate a strategy that recognizes the teams deficits. Whatever it is may not work, but there really seems to be no strategic approach to the game.

Watching Cal in today's fourth quarter, I saw effort, but I really didn't see a plan. After watching Monty's post game presser, he provided his usual cogent analysis. My question about his coaching is whether he is able to translate an analysis of the problems into meaningful strategies. I really didn't see players executing a strategy. Rather, it seemed that players were randomly running in circles without a clear idea as to how they were going to turn things around.

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Posted: 01/21/2013 6:38 AM

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I think anyone who has watched Cal basketball since the late Bruan years would have seen a dramatic improvement in the offense during the early Monty years and a lack of cohesion this season.  Every time I see Solomon going out to shoot a three I screaming "NO" but it happens so regularly that I think it is an integral part of the "offense."  Sadly it seems to be one of the few regularly open shots available to the Bears.  And if I'm on defense, I'm doing nothing to stop it.

I've noticed a lot of individual effort to score.  Someone taking it on their own to make something happen.  Lost are those passes with purpose, movement to create mis-matches, and the fast break offense.  A short bench may explain the absence of the fast break game, but it does not explain the absence of team offense.  Not even some two man games... no high-low, inside out... about the only thing I see is the long double screen curls which defenses have anticipated.

There's a lot wrong with the offense, and I know I will take sh!t for saying it, but Cal misses Brandon Smith.  He's average on a good day, but he allows Justin to play the two (no, Yogi, Wallace does not allow Justin to play the two).  Justin is pressing too hard to penetrate.  He's not open for the three.  I think this is where the Cal offense has hit the skids.
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Posted: 01/21/2013 11:06 AM

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BluesandGold2 wrote:Every time I see Solomon going out to shoot a three I screaming "NO" but it happens so regularly that I think it is an integral part of the "offense."  Sadly it seems to be one of the few regularly open shots available to the Bears.  And if I'm on defense, I'm doing nothing to stop it.
Solomon has attempted 6 threes this season.
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Posted: 01/21/2013 2:06 PM

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I think I've seen every one of them... he made one if I recall correctly.  I would have rather have seen almost any other shot by him or someone else.  Sean Marks could hit the three with some regularity; Solomon should be disabused of the notion that he should take the open three.
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Posted: 01/22/2013 10:57 AM

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BluesandGold2 wrote: Cal misses Brandon Smith
I can't wait for the day when people stop making excuses for this guy's lack of talent.
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Posted: 01/22/2013 3:05 PM

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YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote: Cal misses Brandon Smith
I can't wait for the day when people stop making excuses for this guy's lack of talent.
Hmmm... lets see what else I wrote... "He's average on a good day."  Yep, I was touting his talents (or,rather, making an excuse for his lack of talent), much like you were displaying your reading skills.  My point remains: Brandon Smith allows Justin Cobbs to play the shooting guard; Tyrone Wallace does not.
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Posted: 01/22/2013 6:57 PM

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BluesandGold2 wrote:
YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote: Cal misses Brandon Smith
I can't wait for the day when people stop making excuses for this guy's lack of talent.
Hmmm... lets see what else I wrote... "He's average on a good day."  Yep, I was touting his talents (or,rather, making an excuse for his lack of talent), much like you were displaying your reading skills.  My point remains: Brandon Smith allows Justin Cobbs to play the shooting guard; Tyrone Wallace does not.
Your point is still laughably wrong, but keep going with that
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Posted: 01/23/2013 5:52 AM

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YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote:
YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote: Cal misses Brandon Smith
I can't wait for the day when people stop making excuses for this guy's lack of talent.
Hmmm... lets see what else I wrote... "He's average on a good day."  Yep, I was touting his talents (or,rather, making an excuse for his lack of talent), much like you were displaying your reading skills.  My point remains: Brandon Smith allows Justin Cobbs to play the shooting guard; Tyrone Wallace does not.
Your point is still laughably wrong, but keep going with that
At least it is grounded in reality, unlike your assertion that Tyrone Wallace allows Cobbs to play the off-guard.  I'd tell you to keep going with that, but I would rather encourage you to rejoin us on planet Earth.
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Posted: 01/23/2013 6:04 AM

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Wallace has been getting more minutes at the point with Cobbs at the 2 these last few games.
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Posted: 01/24/2013 10:30 PM

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BluesandGold2 wrote:
YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote:
YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote: Cal misses Brandon Smith
I can't wait for the day when people stop making excuses for this guy's lack of talent.
Hmmm... lets see what else I wrote... "He's average on a good day."  Yep, I was touting his talents (or,rather, making an excuse for his lack of talent), much like you were displaying your reading skills.  My point remains: Brandon Smith allows Justin Cobbs to play the shooting guard; Tyrone Wallace does not.
Your point is still laughably wrong, but keep going with that
At least it is grounded in reality, unlike your assertion that Tyrone Wallace allows Cobbs to play the off-guard.  I'd tell you to keep going with that, but I would rather encourage you to rejoin us on planet Earth.
Thank goodness we had Brandon Smith back tonight.  His 19 minutes and 3 assists really freed up Justin Cobbs to play the point.  Too bad we had to play Wallace and Cobbs all those minutes together, as Wallace was so ineffective at setting guys up that he only got 8 assists.
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Posted: 01/26/2013 8:36 PM

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YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote:
YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote:
YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote: Cal misses Brandon Smith
I can't wait for the day when people stop making excuses for this guy's lack of talent.
Hmmm... lets see what else I wrote... "He's average on a good day."  Yep, I was touting his talents (or,rather, making an excuse for his lack of talent), much like you were displaying your reading skills.  My point remains: Brandon Smith allows Justin Cobbs to play the shooting guard; Tyrone Wallace does not.
Your point is still laughably wrong, but keep going with that
At least it is grounded in reality, unlike your assertion that Tyrone Wallace allows Cobbs to play the off-guard.  I'd tell you to keep going with that, but I would rather encourage you to rejoin us on planet Earth.
Thank goodness we had Brandon Smith back tonight.  His 19 minutes and 3 assists really freed up Justin Cobbs to play the point.  Too bad we had to play Wallace and Cobbs all those minutes together, as Wallace was so ineffective at setting guys up that he only got 8 assists.
1. Welcome Back, Mr. Smith
His contributions to the box score weren’t much – three points and three assists in 19 minutes – but the return of senior guard Brandon Smith to the lineup after missing six games with a concussion clearly made a big difference for California. The veteran’s steady hand and energy off the bench lifted the Golden Bears after a sluggish start, helping direct a 13-0 run. Cal closed the first half outscoring Utah26-11.

Freshman Tyrone Wallace also benefited from Smith’s return, offering greater production from reduced minutes. Head coach Mike Montgomeryhad lamented that he couldn’t sit Wallace for Smith when the newcomer overreached and tried to do too much. But the opportunity to do just that clearly made a difference in Salt Lake City, as Wallace finished with 12 points, four rebounds, and eight assists in 34 minutes.

Smith alone won’t be enough to lift Cal back into the contentious Pac-12 title race, but



http://california.scout.com/2/1260768.html
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Posted: 01/28/2013 5:45 PM

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BluesandGold2 wrote:
1. Welcome Back, Mr. Smith
His contributions to the box score weren’t much – three points and three assists in 19 minutes – but the return of senior guard Brandon Smith to the lineup after missing six games with a concussion clearly made a big difference for California. The veteran’s steady hand and energy off the bench lifted the Golden Bears after a sluggish start, helping direct a 13-0 run. Cal closed the first half outscoring Utah26-11.

Freshman Tyrone Wallace also benefited from Smith’s return, offering greater production from reduced minutes. Head coach Mike Montgomeryhad lamented that he couldn’t sit Wallace for Smith when the newcomer overreached and tried to do too much. But the opportunity to do just that clearly made a difference in Salt Lake City, as Wallace finished with 12 points, four rebounds, and eight assists in 34 minutes.

Smith alone won’t be enough to lift Cal back into the contentious Pac-12 title race, but



http://california.scout.com/2/1260768.html
He made an even bigger difference in the Colorado game.  2 points, 1 assist and a team leading 5 turnovers in only 14 minutes.  Next closest on the team had 1.

Yes indeed, we sure missed Brandon Smith and his return will most definitely put us on a path to success.
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Posted: 01/29/2013 12:03 PM

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YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote:
1. Welcome Back, Mr. Smith
His contributions to the box score weren’t much – three points and three assists in 19 minutes – but the return of senior guard Brandon Smith to the lineup after missing six games with a concussion clearly made a big difference for California. The veteran’s steady hand and energy off the bench lifted the Golden Bears after a sluggish start, helping direct a 13-0 run. Cal closed the first half outscoring Utah26-11.

Freshman Tyrone Wallace also benefited from Smith’s return, offering greater production from reduced minutes. Head coach Mike Montgomeryhad lamented that he couldn’t sit Wallace for Smith when the newcomer overreached and tried to do too much. But the opportunity to do just that clearly made a difference in Salt Lake City, as Wallace finished with 12 points, four rebounds, and eight assists in 34 minutes.

Smith alone won’t be enough to lift Cal back into the contentious Pac-12 title race, but



http://california.scout.com/2/1260768.html
He made an even bigger difference in the Colorado game.  2 points, 1 assist and a team leading 5 turnovers in only 14 minutes.  Next closest on the team had 1.

Yes indeed, we sure missed Brandon Smith and his return will most definitely put us on a path to success.

You are far too generous unless you didn't watch the game.  Mr. Smith was a turnover machine.  If he had been drunk he would have had an excuse (was he drunk?  anyone know?).  The first half for the Bears was a disaster, and no one was more of a disaster than Brandon.

However, you don't get to win this discussion based on this game.  Brandon may never play any better than he did against Colorado.  However, and I'm not alone in this (see the link provided in prior post), Brandon Smith has made positive contributions that directly and indirectly contributed to Bears' victories and, it should be noted, Cal's season really went south when he got injured.
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Posted: 01/31/2013 12:12 PM

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BluesandGold2 wrote:
However, you don't get to win this discussion based on this game. 
Son, like most discussions I participate in, I won this before it even started.  You're just a little slow to realize it.
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Posted: 01/31/2013 3:11 PM

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For the sake of argument (and God knows why I'm jumping in to it, to begin with), but Smith's injury and Kreklow's re-injury occurred at roughly the same time. Correlation does not equal causation. Did Cal play worse without Smith? Yes. But, they were also largely without Kreklow, as well, so you have to take that into account.
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Posted: 01/31/2013 10:32 PM

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I don't think they beat OSU without him.
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Posted: 02/01/2013 12:59 PM

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YogiBear wrote:
BluesandGold2 wrote:
However, you don't get to win this discussion based on this game. 
Son, like most discussions I participate in, I won this before it even started.  You're just a little slow to realize it.
I'm guessing you do most things by yourself.
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Posted: 02/01/2013 1:14 PM

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RyanGorcey wrote: For the sake of argument (and God knows why I'm jumping in to it, to begin with), but Smith's injury and Kreklow's re-injury occurred at roughly the same time. Correlation does not equal causation. Did Cal play worse without Smith? Yes. But, they were also largely without Kreklow, as well, so you have to take that into account.

Kreklow did not participate much prior to his reinjury, so while his and Brandon's injuries coincided, it's hard to argue that Kreklow had much influence over the early part of the season before Brandon got injured.
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Posted: 02/07/2013 8:35 PM

Brandon Smith comes through again 


It was inspiring watching him defend Jahii Carson
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Posted: 02/08/2013 8:22 AM

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He did do a heck of a job on him in the second half.  Took him completely out of his game.

Coming into the game Carson was averaging 18-ppg, 5-apg & 3-to's pg.

Smith, Cobbs, and Crabbe held him to 12 pts & 3 assists and forced 5 to's

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