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Posted: 08/22/2014 2:31 PM

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What happens if Sacramento State defeats Cal?

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Posted: 08/22/2014 5:59 PM

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Section EE in Cal's Memorial Stadium - circa September 6, 2014

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Posted: 08/22/2014 8:21 PM

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Blue, I love your creative answer. When I posted this question I was thinking more in the line of; Does Sonny Dykes make it through the season?

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Posted: 08/22/2014 9:54 PM

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It will not happen. It would be unprecedented for Cal to lose to a Division 1AA (FCS) team. I would not be unprecedented for Stanford to lose to a Division 1AA team. But it would be unprecedented for us to lose to a Division 1AA team.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 9:57 PM

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My recommendation is to wait for the conclusion of the Northwestern game, prior to making bold predictatory what if statements.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:06 PM

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Can't see it happening and it would be monumental if it did.  Sac State is going through more upheaval than the Bears have the last couple of years.  You have a very popular HC who has produced a couple of memorable upsets against Pac-12 teams abruptly dismissed in the Spring, and a brand new and well-traveled DC suddenly foisted into an interim HC position.  Not to mention several key players graduating from last year's team.  Doesn't bode well for Sac State pulling off another Pac-12 upset.
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Posted: 08/23/2014 2:44 AM

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I agree that it would be "monumental" for Cal to lose to Sac State.

But, to provide a what-do-I-think response to such an unlikely event, I

would think that Dykes' continued coaching for the remainder of the

season would depend upon whether Cal hires a new AD. I don't think

Cal will hire a new AD while the forthcoming season is in-progress,

but if Cal did, I think the new AD would fire Dykes if he or she thought

one of the assistant coaches could handle the headcoaching duties

for the remainder of the season. I shutter to think that the new AD would

ever think either Franklin or Kaufman were that capable especially given

that neither of them has ever been a headcoach. So, notwithstanding

these two big "ifs", Sonny will coach out this season for better or worse but

would probably get the axe as soon as the BYU game ended regardless

of who the AD was at that time. 

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Posted: 08/23/2014 4:25 AM

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Absolutely nothing would happen to Dykes if Cal lost to Sac State provided the Bears make it to a bowl game.

Can we get back to reality?
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Posted: 08/23/2014 5:04 PM

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Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.

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Posted: 08/23/2014 5:48 PM

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Belchazer wrote: Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.
Nov 23, 2013  Sacramento, Calif.    UC Davis 34, Sacramento State 7   
Nov 16, 2013  Portland, Ore.        Sacramento State 43, Portland State 42   
Nov 09, 2013  San Luis Obispo, CA   Cal Poly 42, Sacramento State 7  



"Dude, I'd like to help all you

Cal fans but I'm rather busy at

the moment with this Union thing!"


I understand what you're saying. With the scary close 37-30 outcome of Cal's last year's game with Portland State in mind, I put up the last season's results of Sac State's last three games. It shows just how lucky Cal was last season, i.e., Cal was lucky that they didn't play UC Davis or Cal Poly. Not only do these results show Sac State really would have had a more than average spitin' shot at beating Cal last year, but if Cal had played these latter two teams in lieu of Portland State, Cal might had suffered a similar recent nortorious humiliation as experienced by Michigan against Ball St. and the 'furds against UC Davis....whew!   

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Bluebloodthescorned wrote:
Belchazer wrote: Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.
Nov 23, 2013   Sacramento, Calif.     UC Davis 34, Sacramento State 7    
Nov 16, 2013   Portland, Ore.         Sacramento State 43, Portland State 42    
Nov 09, 2013   San Luis Obispo, CA    Cal Poly 42, Sacramento State 7  



"Dude, I'd like to help all you

Cal fans but I'm rather busy at

the moment with this Union thing!"


I understand what you're saying. With the scary close 37-30 outcome of Cal's last year's game with Portland State in mind, I put up the last season's results of Sac State's last three games. It shows just how lucky Cal was last season, i.e., Cal was lucky that they didn't play UC Davis or Cal Poly. Not only do these results show Sac State really would have had a more than average spitin' shot at beating Cal last year, but if Cal had played these latter two teams in lieu of Portland State, Cal might had suffered a similar recent nortorious humiliation as experienced by Michigan against Ball St. and the 'furds against UC Davis....whew!   

You guys are whistling  past  the graveyard!  Last year's  late season  fall off was largely due to a rash  of injuries especially to the OL.   The Hornets return a lot of talent, including a senior QB that is rewriting our record books.    The Hornets have a history of taking the check and knocking off Pac 12 bottom feeders.    See you on the 6th!

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Posted: 08/25/2014 10:08 AM

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GreenLaser1 wrote:
Bluebloodthescorned wrote:
Belchazer wrote: Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.
Nov 23, 2013  Sacramento, Calif.    UC Davis 34, Sacramento State 7   
Nov 16, 2013  Portland, Ore.        Sacramento State 43, Portland State 42   
Nov 09, 2013  San Luis Obispo, CA   Cal Poly 42, Sacramento State 7  



"Dude, I'd like to help all you

Cal fans but I'm rather busy at

the moment with this Union thing!"


I understand what you're saying. With the scary close 37-30 outcome of Cal's last year's game with Portland State in mind, I put up the last season's results of Sac State's last three games. It shows just how lucky Cal was last season, i.e., Cal was lucky that they didn't play UC Davis or Cal Poly. Not only do these results show Sac State really would have had a more than average spitin' shot at beating Cal last year, but if Cal had played these latter two teams in lieu of Portland State, Cal might had suffered a similar recent nortorious humiliation as experienced by Michigan against Ball St. and the 'furds against UC Davis....whew!   

You guys are whistling  past  the graveyard!  Last year's  late season  fall off was largely due to a rash  of injuries especially to the OL.   The Hornets return a lot of talent, including a senior QB that is rewriting our record books.    The Hornets have a history of taking the check and knocking off Pac 12 bottom feeders.    See you on the 6th!
Very interesting that you talk about Sac State's injuries to excuse the team's drop off but do not take into account the injuries Cal suffered which were earlier and of greater quantities.  I will not say that an upset is not possible, but I would be willing to bet a lot of money against it.  Cal might only win one game this season, but the sentiment here is that the team will be improved.
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BluesandGold2 wrote:
GreenLaser1 wrote:
Bluebloodthescorned wrote:
Belchazer wrote: Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.
Nov 23, 2013   Sacramento, Calif.     UC Davis 34, Sacramento State 7    
Nov 16, 2013   Portland, Ore.         Sacramento State 43, Portland State 42    
Nov 09, 2013   San Luis Obispo, CA    Cal Poly 42, Sacramento State 7  



"Dude, I'd like to help all you

Cal fans but I'm rather busy at

the moment with this Union thing!"


I understand what you're saying. With the scary close 37-30 outcome of Cal's last year's game with Portland State in mind, I put up the last season's results of Sac State's last three games. It shows just how lucky Cal was last season, i.e., Cal was lucky that they didn't play UC Davis or Cal Poly. Not only do these results show Sac State really would have had a more than average spitin' shot at beating Cal last year, but if Cal had played these latter two teams in lieu of Portland State, Cal might had suffered a similar recent nortorious humiliation as experienced by Michigan against Ball St. and the 'furds against UC Davis....whew!   

You guys are whistling  past  the graveyard!  Last year's  late season  fall off was largely due to a rash  of injuries especially to the OL.   The Hornets return a lot of talent, including a senior QB that is rewriting our record books.    The Hornets have a history of taking the check and knocking off Pac 12 bottom feeders.    See you on the 6th!
Very interesting that you talk about Sac State's injuries to excuse the team's drop off but do not take into account the injuries Cal suffered which were earlier and of greater quantities.  I will not say that an upset is not possible, but I would be willing to bet a lot of money against it.  Cal might only win one game this season, but the sentiment here is that the team will be improved.

Injuries unfortunately are  part of the game for all teams.   
Injuries obviously need to be considered when evaluating results.  Injuries  might even have more of a impact on FCS teams because with fewer scholarships there is more of a drop off between starters and backups.   The Hornets return a lot of talent this year especially on offense.
With a interim head coach we honestly don't know what to expect.   Hopefully the team will play up to it's potential.    With 20 more scholarships, recruiting advantages, playing at home etc. FBS teams should always  be favored  over FCS teams.    I expect that Cal will be a 25+ point favorite going in, the Hornets have overcome those odds before.   Let's hope for a well played, hard fought and injury free game for both teams!   


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GreenLaser1 wrote:
Bluebloodthescorned wrote:
Belchazer wrote: Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.
Nov 23, 2013  Sacramento, Calif.    UC Davis 34, Sacramento State 7   
Nov 16, 2013  Portland, Ore.        Sacramento State 43, Portland State 42   
Nov 09, 2013  San Luis Obispo, CA   Cal Poly 42, Sacramento State 7  



"Dude, I'd like to help all you

Cal fans but I'm rather busy at

the moment with this Union thing!"


I understand what you're saying. With the scary close 37-30 outcome of Cal's last year's game with Portland State in mind, I put up the last season's results of Sac State's last three games. It shows just how lucky Cal was last season, i.e., Cal was lucky that they didn't play UC Davis or Cal Poly. Not only do these results show Sac State really would have had a more than average spitin' shot at beating Cal last year, but if Cal had played these latter two teams in lieu of Portland State, Cal might had suffered a similar recent nortorious humiliation as experienced by Michigan against Ball St. and the 'furds against UC Davis....whew!   

You guys are whistling  past  the graveyard!  Last year's  late season  fall off was largely due to a rash  of injuries especially to the OL.   The Hornets return a lot of talent, including a senior QB that is rewriting our record books.    The Hornets have a history of taking the check and knocking off Pac 12 bottom feeders.    See you on the 6th!
Nice win for Sac State.  But who or what is Incarnate Word?  How did your AD find this team?
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ZULUasKONO wrote:
GreenLaser1 wrote:
Bluebloodthescorned wrote:
Belchazer wrote: Well, you should never say never and you should never say always.

I could see a situation where Cal gets some key players hurt against Northwestern. (It does not matter who gets hurt for Cal it is always a "key" player. Even if it were the 4th string water boy. After a 2-10 season all of the "experts" will trace back the down fall of the season to the loss of the 4th string water boy. It happens every year.)

Cal goes out against Sac State thinking that all they have to do is throw their helmets on the field in order to get a win. Conversely Sac State sees this as a chance to knock off a Pac 12 school and make their season.

I am not saying that the Hornets are going to beat Cal. All I am saying is that it is not impossible. Nothing is impossible.

I think the point about the interim AD is valid.

It will be interesting to see how much embarrassment and humiliation the administration is going to be willing to endure before they decide something has to be done.

No matter what happens we are going to be stuck with this offense and defense for the entire season.

God Help Us All.
Nov 23, 2013  Sacramento, Calif.    UC Davis 34, Sacramento State 7   
Nov 16, 2013  Portland, Ore.        Sacramento State 43, Portland State 42   
Nov 09, 2013  San Luis Obispo, CA   Cal Poly 42, Sacramento State 7  



"Dude, I'd like to help all you

Cal fans but I'm rather busy at

the moment with this Union thing!"


I understand what you're saying. With the scary close 37-30 outcome of Cal's last year's game with Portland State in mind, I put up the last season's results of Sac State's last three games. It shows just how lucky Cal was last season, i.e., Cal was lucky that they didn't play UC Davis or Cal Poly. Not only do these results show Sac State really would have had a more than average spitin' shot at beating Cal last year, but if Cal had played these latter two teams in lieu of Portland State, Cal might had suffered a similar recent nortorious humiliation as experienced by Michigan against Ball St. and the 'furds against UC Davis....whew!   

You guys are whistling  past  the graveyard!  Last year's  late season  fall off was largely due to a rash  of injuries especially to the OL.   The Hornets return a lot of talent, including a senior QB that is rewriting our record books.    The Hornets have a history of taking the check and knocking off Pac 12 bottom feeders.    See you on the 6th!
Nice win for Sac State.  But who or what is Incarnate Word?  How did your AD find this team?
Hey!  Don't sleep on the Incarnate Word -- they have a rivalry game with Abilene Christian coming up.  It's going to be Biblical.  The Sac State game was like limbo for them... being stung by hornets.
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Posted: 09/06/2014 1:32 PM

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Belchazer wrote: What happens if Sacramento State defeats Cal?

Not a very good question - I'm calling a it Cal W midway through the 2nd Qtr.

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Posted: 09/06/2014 3:57 PM

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HuntBeachBear wrote:
Belchazer wrote: What happens if Sacramento State defeats Cal?

Not a very good question - I'm calling a it Cal W midway through the 2nd Qtr.

It was a good question when I posed it. Considering how bad the team was last year it was possible that Cal could go through this season without a win..

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Posted: 09/06/2014 4:51 PM

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A winless season is always possible until the team wins. However, I think it should now be obvious to everyone that the difference between the 2014 Bears and the 2013 Bears is like night and day. biggrin
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