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New Poll -- Is Dykes the right pick?

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Posted: 12/05/2012 5:33 PM

New Poll -- Is Dykes the right pick? 


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    Is Dykes the right pick?

  1. Poll closed on 12/12/2012
  2. Yes: 66 votes
  3. No: 99 votes

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Posted: 12/05/2012 7:43 PM

"A disciple of current WSU head coach Mike Leach" 


22-15 record? Coach of the 3rd best team in the WAC's last game at LA Tech:  http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?id=323290023  eek

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Posted: 12/05/2012 9:01 PM

This is a dissaster 


I personally think this was the worst possible pick.   There is only one reason Sandy Barbour hired Dykes, and that is as a last minute attempt to sell tickets.   

Sure the guy has somewhat of a reputation as being a good Offensive Coach, but the other half of the job of a HC is to oversee the defense.   This season Louisiana Tech had the 119th ranked scoring defense and gave up 40 or more points on a regular basis this season, including 55 points to Texas State.  

Louisiana Tech beat only one team this season with a winning record, and that was the Univ of Texas at San Antonio 

The best choice was only 50 miles away down in San Jose.  

Basically,  she blew it
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Posted: 12/05/2012 9:40 PM

Re: New Poll -- Is Dykes the right pick? Post Rating (1 vote)


The Best Candidate for the HC Position was McIntyre from SJS. He has rebuilt a Down Forever Program in a very short time and likely understands how to recruit California and the West. What is Dykes experience with Cali recruiting? That SJS beat La. Tech a few weeks ago really didn't matter to the Cal A.D....Good Luck trying to rebuild a Fan Base that has been sold out by a woman who still doesn't get what Cal Sports is all about...She was the Politically Correct Hire way back when. For that, Good Luck trying to Fire her.
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Posted: 12/05/2012 9:56 PM

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Here here well stated. He has obvious health issue that requires self discipline. With that pattern no wonder he has good aggressiveness in offense, like charging ahead in the buffet line hence no defense learning self restraint is key,
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Posted: 12/05/2012 11:17 PM

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t7pericles wrote: Here here well stated. He has obvious health issue that requires self discipline. With that pattern no wonder he has good aggressiveness in offense, like charging ahead in the buffet line hence no defense learning self restraint is key,
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Posted: 12/05/2012 11:30 PM

Not to mention... 


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Posted: 12/06/2012 1:06 AM

In two years you will realize that Jack Clark would be better Post Rating (1 vote)


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Posted: 12/06/2012 4:59 AM

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If I were an AD in the PAC12 I would be looking real hard at Gary Anderson of Utah St. While I think Dykes is a good OC he hasnt really proven much at LaTech as a HC. Anderson has shown he has a very good eye for talent, and has some impressive games at Utah St.


GO Ducks!!! WTD

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Posted: 12/06/2012 7:41 AM

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Here's what I just wrote to my brother, who lives in Seattle and is a long-time bears fan, and was worried about Dykes' ability to recruit 4-5 star player.  I can remember a game in the late 50's when my brother got rolled up the Cal rooting section.

Okay.  Here goes.  Could be a long one.
I participate in the forums at www.california.scout.com under the name CalHiGramps.  Here's what I wrote on November 24:
"Watched the entire SJS-Louisiana Tech game and liked what I saw on both sides of the ball from San Jose State.  MacIntyre's offense is well conceived and is close to the type of offense I'd like to see at Cal. It is balanced with a lot of plays with the QB under center.  On the other hand Dykes failed his audition and he should be immediately taken off the coaching list.  I still favor people like John Gruden, Herm Edwards, Ron Rivera, and Greg Roman."

Right now Dykes is running unfavorably in the poll at Cal Bears Scout with 26 in favor and 50 against the hiring.
I don't think comparing the type of recruits he got there can be compared to what he can get at Cal.  Louisiana Tech is a mid major and plays in a 23,000 seat stadium in the WAC.  That does not even come close to comparing to Cal and the Pac 12.  he will probably be able to recruit.  That's not my concern at this moment.
My concern is what I saw in the game I watched against SJS, he is not a charismatic coach, he runs a gimmick offense, he has no defense.
What he did against SJS was not consistent with what he did all year where he did have a balanced offense and did have a running back who gained 1,200 yards.  He only lost to Texas A&M by 2 points.  But what I saw in the SJS game was very disturbing.  He did not run the ball and when he did SJS stuffed it, and they had less than 60 yds. rushing.  He threw over 60 times in that game.
Look, I'm not a traditionalist and I understand that college football is all about scoring a lot of points.  I love watching Oregon play.  But saying all of that, I'm convinced that the best offense for college is a good mix of the T-formation and the spread.  I like what the Redskins and 49ers are doing on offense. In college, I think the type of offense that USC or Alabama runs is more in line with what I'd like to see Cal do.  I think these gimmick offenses have a real weakness when they run into a very good defensive team, for instance Stanford against Oregon this year.  A real strength of the T-formation is being able to run play action passes when you are deep in the red zone.
From what I'm hearing, Dykes is coming with his offensive coordinator, running back coach, and wide receiver coach.  this means that Ron Gould, who has been at Cal for 16 years will be gone.  Despite the fact that Tedford was considered a quarterback guru, it was Gould who sent a whole slew of running backs to the NFL, and he was retained after Tedford was let go in hopes he would remain he running back coach.s  I think we've seen the last Cal running back in the NFL for some time to come.  Dykes is not bringing a top notch staff.  It is a WAC level coaching staff, and unless he brings in some super high powered defensive coordinator, we can expect the Bears to give up a lot of points.
I think that the Cal AD has middle of the road expectations from its football team, wants a coach it can control, not a charismatic coach, does not want to pay an arm and a leg for a nationally ranked coach, and will be happy going to some irrelevant bowl game every year.
So, I'm against this hire.  I know that my youngest son is intrigued by bringing in someone who runs this type of offense, and it will probably attract some good high school players who like it too.  Obviously the proof is in the pudding, so it will be what he does on the field that will count, not what we think now.  My expectations are very high.  I wont' accept anything less than the Rose Bowl.  Tedford's best year was 2004 with a 10-1 regular season record and a loss to USC in a game Cal should have won.  The only reason we did not go to the Rose Bowl was because Tedford let Mack Brown out media him.  This is the standard I'm setting for Dykes.  Tedford took over a one win team and won 7 games his first year in 2002 and was named Pac 10 coach of the year.  Two years later they should have gone to the Rose Bowl.  If Dykes does not match that, then he is clearly a down grade over Tedford, which I think is the case.  Despite all my rants the past 3 years about Tedford, he did one hell of a job at bringing Cal football back to national prominence.
So to end, here's what I posted last night at Cal Bears Scout.  "Obviously, Cal has decided that doing slightly better than mediocrity is acceptable. As a long-time Cal fan, I'm extremely disappointed. Sonny Dykes is not an upgrade over Tedford. He (Tedford) must be laughing all the way to the bank as he deposits his buy out."

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Posted: 12/06/2012 9:21 AM

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Paul Zacha wrote:

If I were an AD in the PAC12 I would be looking real hard at Gary Anderson of Utah St. While I think Dykes is a good OC he hasnt really proven much at LaTech as a HC. Anderson has shown he has a very good eye for talent, and has some impressive games at Utah St.


GO Ducks!!! WTD

Brett


It's interesting how each forum is viewing this hire.  Over at BI, the poll is running 10-1 in favor of the hire. 

Anderson wasn't/isn't going anywhere from Utah St.  He has at least 1, maybe 2, kids in school there and now on the team.  Have a feeling he is going to be there a long time.  And that doesn't include other personal issues which may not be a good fit here.

You say Dykes hasn't done much at LA Tech.  Well, I took a look at their program and have read blogs and fan comments on the situation there.  It appears that Dykes took over a program 3 years ago that was in worse shape than the Cal program that Tedford took over in '02.  Dykes steadily made it a success without much money or facilities to work with (Muller should love that angle), and more fan apathy than you even saw after Holmoe's 1-10 season here.  Considering what he had to work with, Dykes did very well at LA Tech.  As far as recruiting, he does know the conference having been Arizona's OC for several years.  Offense won't be a probelm, but I am concerned about the defense as his teams didn't show the design or talent to stop other teams.  The whole key to this hire and Dykes success will come down to who is brought in as DC.  He needs to be looking for the best available at the price that can be afforded.  I keep hearing DeWayne Walker's name mentioned, which might just be a good choice.
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Posted: 12/06/2012 9:36 AM

Re: New Poll -- Is Dykes the right pick? NOT RIGHT BUT Post Rating (2 votes)


PROBABLY THE BEST YOU COULD HOPE TO GET GIVEN THE PONZI QUEEN'S LIMITED BUDGET AND THE LACK OF INTEREST FROM BETTER-QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.
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Posted: 12/06/2012 10:45 AM

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CardSince84 wrote: PROBABLY THE BEST YOU COULD HOPE TO GET GIVEN THE PONZI QUEEN'S LIMITED BUDGET AND THE LACK OF INTEREST FROM BETTER-QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.

You guys should have hired  a coach who believe's in a big tough physical football team. I know the rage is spread Off..  You should have hired Willie Tagart of Western Kentucky. Plays two tight Off. and a quick fast Def and his DC is pretty damn good. Willie would have been a great hire, I think better than Dykes, but Dykes comes from a great football family...
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Posted: 12/06/2012 12:45 PM

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To all Bears....Sonny will be an awesome coach....yall just don't know it yet.

Hey....how'd you like to be a Buff fan right now!
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Posted: 12/06/2012 2:05 PM

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+1,000... I am from San Jose and what he has done to SJSU is nothing short of a miracle.

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The Best Candidate for the HC Position was McIntyre from SJS. He has rebuilt a Down Forever Program in a very short time and likely understands how to recruit California and the West. What is Dykes experience with Cali recruiting? That SJS beat La. Tech a few weeks ago really didn't matter to the Cal A.D....Good Luck trying to rebuild a Fan Base that has been sold out by a woman who still doesn't get what Cal Sports is all about...She was the Politically Correct Hire way back when. For that, Good Luck trying to Fire her.

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Posted: 12/06/2012 2:07 PM

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Dykes will be a good hire for you guys. He did a good job as OC at Arizona, with HC Stoops probably interfering some. You will have an explosive offense in a few years. Maybe not next year! Give him a chance......
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Posted: 12/06/2012 3:55 PM

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PortlandFDHusky wrote:
Interesting you didn't mention:

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Posted: 12/06/2012 4:49 PM

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So this is where the anti-Cal fans posing and posting as "Cal fans" go. LOL.

Dykes is a great hire and the players are jacked. If he gets a strong DC (his "most important hire" according to his presser), Cal will be golden. What will you AMY dingbats do after that? lol
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Posted: 12/06/2012 5:24 PM

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I would not call it a great hire but you never know. I personally was not excited, when ASU originally hired Graham, but now I could not be any happier. So you never know how things will turn out.

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So this is where the anti-Cal fans posing and posting as "Cal fans" go. LOL.

Dykes is a great hire and the players are jac in the direction you have my son Devils headed inked. If he gets a strong DC (his "most important hire" according to his presser), Cal will be golden. What will you AMY dingbats do after that?
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