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Once its savior, Tedford out at California

Posted: 11/20/2012 11:47 AM

Once its savior, Tedford out at California 


California head coach Jeff Tedford was fired Tuesday, four days after the end of his worst season with the Golden Bears.

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Posted: 11/20/2012 12:25 PM

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Beaver fan here.  Just read about this over on our boards.  I must admit I always liked Tedford.  Not slimey like Chip Kelly or Lane Kiffen.  Not over the top emotional like Stoops.  A quality guy.  Sorry he couldn't have got it done for you guys.  He certainly brought the Bears back to respectability.  Good luck in your search for his replacement.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 12:53 PM

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This was inevitable. When his teams underachieved with the quality talent he had fewer top rate players wanted to play for him. His record in the last few years was reflective of the decline of the talent on his teams. So the underachieving curve of his teams just kept dropping lower and lower. The catch 22 effect of underachievement. They should have gotten rid of him before the program declined to this level. Happy he is gone.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 12:56 PM

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RATES RIVAL THE SEC PROGRAMS.  THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE TOO.  KAL DOESN'T HAVE TO RELY ON THAT TYPE OF RECRUIT TO WIN.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 1:23 PM

I'm a bit surprised... 


I didn't think Cal would swallow the $6.9 million buyout.  I'm guessing that this was the last long-term contract Sandy Barbour will sign.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 1:36 PM

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The Ponzi Queen might have already signed her last contract period.  Wouldn't surprise me in the least if she gets canned next week.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 3:09 PM

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Aaron Rodgers is HOT right now on his radio show about this. Basically said Tedford met every expectation given to them despite having the biggest handcuffs of any school in the division.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 3:17 PM

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CardSince84 wrote: The Ponzi Queen might have already signed her last contract period.  Wouldn't surprise me in the least if she gets canned next week.

What makes you think that these decisions are hers and hers alone?  The contract and the money behind it ultimately made the decision.  Nothing gets done unilaterally around here.

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Posted: 11/20/2012 4:43 PM

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MayhemMadness wrote: Aaron Rodgers is HOT right now on his radio show about this. Basically said Tedford met every expectation given to them despite having the biggest handcuffs of any school in the division.

mmmm met every expectation

Tedford was 19-27 (41%) vs. FBS teams the last 4 seasons, including...

16 blowout losses out of the 50 games played from 2009-2012. (32%).

not many bigtime programs would allow this to continue
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Posted: 11/20/2012 9:12 PM

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CalBuck79 wrote:
MayhemMadness wrote: Aaron Rodgers is HOT right now on his radio show about this. Basically said Tedford met every expectation given to them despite having the biggest handcuffs of any school in the division.

mmmm met every expectation

Tedford was 19-27 (41%) vs. FBS teams the last 4 seasons, including...

16 blowout losses out of the 50 games played from 2009-2012. (32%).

not many bigtime programs would allow this to continue
Get lost loser!  And take your "what have you done for me lately" numbers with you.  Tedford's history goes back to 2002, not just from 2009 on.  He took a 1-11 team with severely outdated facilities and turned them into a winning program that almost hit #1 at one point.  Without him, no upgraded facilities would would have been possible.  That's more than meeting expectations when you start with nothing.  He certainly never lost control of the team and they were never put on probation like some programs we won't mention.  His character will never be questioned like I could certainly question when it comes to some supposedly "big time" programs.

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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:47 PM

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Get lost loser!  And take your "what have you done for me lately" numbers with you.  Tedford's history goes back to 2002, not just from 2009 on.  He took a 1-11 team with severely outdated facilities and turned them into a winning program that almost hit #1 at one point.  Without him, no upgraded facilities would would have been possible.  That's more than meeting expectations when you start with nothing.  He certainly never lost control of the team and they were never put on probation like some programs we won't mention.  His character will never be questioned like I could certainly question when it comes to some supposedly "big time" programs.
You make some very important taking points. Yes but they are talking points on what was wrong with Tedford as a coach. He did take a program from nothing- but he was in the process of returning it to nothing. Of course the new shiny facilities would still be there as his legacy. But what is the role of a coach? Is it to build a team or to build facilities. I submit that Tedford during his involvement in building facilities became goal displaced and forgot his primary function as coach.

Yes he built them into a winning program with the zenith being the almost # 1 season. That season while defining the top also defined the decline. They went from almost # 1 to losing every regular season game there-after. The barely reached the minimum 50% criteria to qualify for a bowl. That team was loaded with future NFL players and the tailspin they took was caused by the worst job of coaching I have ever seen. That season was the beginning of the decline and defined Tedford as a coach. He is very good at acquiring the tools but doesn't know what to do with them once he has them. 

I don't know what reality you seem to live in. But every Job and coaching is a job is defined by what have you done for me lately. The things that Tedford did- past coaching records, building facilities etc. he was already paid for. He got the job in the first place based on his past record. He was given a new contract based on his record. Well now his recent record which is the basis for his firing is most important part of his record. The recent past is always a greater indicator of future production than any distant past.That's the way things work. Except for certain individuals who labor under the delusion that if they put in a measured effort that means they are owed a perpetual entitlement.  Of course this additude seem steeped in the University system by those that rise to positions of authority. Those that believe their credentials rather than production justifies entitlement. I am smart, worked hard to get my credentials so now I am entitled to sit on my behind. An ideology ensconced in and spread from our institutions of higher learning. The joy of being a parasite.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:19 AM

biggest handcuffs? 


Meaning academics?

I'd think that Pullman's location is a bigger handcuff than Cal's academics..
MayhemMadness wrote: Aaron Rodgers is HOT right now on his radio show about this. Basically said Tedford met every expectation given to them despite having the biggest handcuffs of any school in the division.


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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:29 AM

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EGbear wrote:
Get lost loser!  And take your "what have you done for me lately" numbers with you.  Tedford's history goes back to 2002, not just from 2009 on.  He took a 1-11 team with severely outdated facilities and turned them into a winning program that almost hit #1 at one point.  Without him, no upgraded facilities would would have been possible.  That's more than meeting expectations when you start with nothing.  He certainly never lost control of the team and they were never put on probation like some programs we won't mention.  His character will never be questioned like I could certainly question when it comes to some supposedly "big time" programs.
You make some very important taking points. Yes but they are talking points on what was wrong with Tedford as a coach. He did take a program from nothing- but he was in the process of returning it to nothing. Of course the new shiny facilities would still be there as his legacy. But what is the role of a coach? Is it to build a team or to build facilities. I submit that Tedford during his involvement in building facilities became goal displaced and forgot his primary function as coach.

Yes he built them into a winning program with the zenith being the almost # 1 season. That season while defining the top also defined the decline. They went from almost # 1 to losing every regular season game there-after. The barely reached the minimum 50% criteria to qualify for a bowl. That team was loaded with future NFL players and the tailspin they took was caused by the worst job of coaching I have ever seen. That season was the beginning of the decline and defined Tedford as a coach. He is very good at acquiring the tools but doesn't know what to do with them once he has them. 

I don't know what reality you seem to live in. But every Job and coaching is a job is defined by what have you done for me lately. The things that Tedford did- past coaching records, building facilities etc. he was already paid for. He got the job in the first place based on his past record. He was given a new contract based on his record. Well now his recent record which is the basis for his firing is most important part of his record. The recent past is always a greater indicator of future production than any distant past.That's the way things work. Except for certain individuals who labor under the delusion that if they put in a measured effort that means they are owed a perpetual entitlement.  Of course this additude seem steeped in the University system by those that rise to positions of authority. Those that believe their credentials rather than production justifies entitlement. I am smart, worked hard to get my credentials so now I am entitled to sit on my behind. An ideology ensconced in and spread from our institutions of higher learning. The joy of being a parasite.

I had this conversation with bucknut about 3 months ago, and I'm not going to go through it again and spell out each point one more time for you.  If you haven't figured out yet that this admin felt they owed Tedford a chance with new facilities that he helped bring, then you don't understand a thing.  That at least shows a little loyalty and integrity which is seriously lacking in sports today.  As far as your parasitic reference, let's just say that someone who works 90 hours/week, rarely goes home during the season, makes all of the recruiting trips, and puts his best forward (regardless if you think that or not), is not just coasting along and doing nothing but collecting a paycheck as your teahaddist mentality tells you.  If you didn't like his contract, then talk to the people who gave it to him which was not just Sandy Barbour.  And if you want to look at the last few years, then you could make a decent argument that he was basically one consistent QB away from 8-10 win seasons every year since 07.   

Tedford was his own worst enemy in the long run.  He tinkered too much with the offense to make up for shortcomings at QB, and then got hung up in the fad of the no huddle offense this year, which was his final undoing.  Mike Riley has already proved that you can come back from down seasons, but in this case, a fresh start is needed by both sides.  Will Tedford land on his feet and do well?  Absolutely!  Why not go over the other Cal board and take look at some of the tweets that have been posted by his current and former players and their parents.  It doesn't paint a picture of an uncaring coach who had no clue what he was doing.  If all that matters is the bottom line, then go praise all that is the uncaring, arrogant and pompous coach named Chip Kelly who treats his players as disposable goods once he is through with them.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:30 AM

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OrangeAttack wrote: Meaning academics?

I'd think that Pullman's location is a bigger handcuff than Cal's academics..
MayhemMadness wrote: Aaron Rodgers is HOT right now on his radio show about this. Basically said Tedford met every expectation given to them despite having the biggest handcuffs of any school in the division.
Maybe, maybe not.  A lot of players, especially from SoCal, look forward to getting away from the big city.  Although, Pullman in November and December is a tough sell.  I'm guessing Rodgers meant the facilities more than academics, or lack thereof.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:54 AM

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EGbear wrote:
What makes you think that these decisions are hers and hers alone?  The contract and the money behind it ultimately made the decision.  Nothing gets done unilaterally around here.
YES I FORGOT THAT IT WAS THE COLLECTIVE THAT FIRED TEDFRAUD.  THE PONZI QUEEN WAS JUST THE MOUTHPIECE.  I GUESS THEY WERE UNABLE TO FULLY ASSIMILATE HIM.

Sounds to me like she was given the parameters under which he'd be brought back, and when he wasn't willing to agree to those then he got fired.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:00 PM

Re: biggest handcuffs?ACADEMIC HANDCUFFS? PLEASE, MARSHAWN, 


MESEAN, KAL CAN GET ANYBODY IN THEY WANT.  THE TROUBLE IS KEEPING THEM OUT OF HANDCUFFS NOT ADMISSIONS POLICIES.

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Posted: 11/21/2012 10:51 PM

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Met every expectation?  Are you serious?

Was 3-9 expected in the first year of your $300M+ stadium financed by a Ponzi scheme?
Was a graduation rate that ranks below most SEC teams expected?
Was the lack of a quality QB for 5+ years expected?
Was a sieve of an OL expected?

GIMME A BREAK RODGERS YOU ARE A MORON.  STICK TO THROWING THE FOOTBALL
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