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Re: GRADY MUST GO

Posted: 12/19/2010 3:07 PM

Re: GRADY MUST GO 



steinbornfs wrote: Of course the rushing yards were bad, NIU openly stated they were going to focus on shutting down our running game and make us rely on passing. It could have backfired, our passing game was better than anticipated. As for stats ( besides the obvious ones ) look at number of first downs, passing yardage, pass completions, time of possession, and various others -- foxsports.com nicely summarizes it. We had a decent offensive game, even scored 17 points against a VERY fired-up defense. Our defense allowed 40 points against us. That's much more conspicuous than the mere 17 points we scored. If we'd stayed away from running up the middle and  taken advantage of our speed to run more wide plays we might have scored even more points. Plus, even though he didn't let on, it must have hurt Rouse like hell on some of those carries, so we were somewhat handicapped, but their defense was wicked.

We did pretty well, we were over-matched, at least for that one game. I suppose some of it was a coaching difference, Matuka-what-is-it appears to be a master motivator. Hill? Maybe, but not so much last night.
Again, what excuse is there for the Dogs not being equally fired up and prepared to play?  Clearly, the Dogs were not ready to set foot on the field with the Huskies.

Their defense was wicked?  They have a good defense, it is far from being "wicked"...  I guess if you have rationalize things, go right ahead. 

If you want to look at stats and dig for moral victories, you have fun with that.  There is only one stat that matters at the end of the game and it isn't total first downs, time of possesion, yards passing, yards per completion, yards per play, etc.
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Posted: 12/20/2010 12:13 PM

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We got beat, and I'm not looking for any moral victory, sometimes you're not good enough and you lose. We wern't good enough. But to pin that on any particular individual, e.g.,  Grady is absurd. Where is it written that We're Fresno State and that alone entitles us to win football games? Nevada, BSU, and Hawaii might have something to say about that, yes?

Frankly, I sometimes wonder if some of you folks have ever played the game, or have you just made a profession of being a fan? Sometimes you do your best and your best just ain't good enough.

And I'd say that, from our viewpoint, NIU's defense was truly wicked. 40 points is a pretty good indicator of that fact.

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Posted: 12/20/2010 12:58 PM

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steinbornfs wrote: We got beat, and I'm not looking for any moral victory, sometimes you're not good enough and you lose. We wern't good enough. But to pin that on any particular individual, e.g.,  Grady is absurd. Where is it written that We're Fresno State and that alone entitles us to win football games? Nevada, BSU, and Hawaii might have something to say about that, yes?

Frankly, I sometimes wonder if some of you folks have ever played the game, or have you just made a profession of being a fan? Sometimes you do your best and your best just ain't good enough.

And I'd say that, from our viewpoint, NIU's defense was truly wicked. 40 points is a pretty good indicator of that fact.
Please show me where I have said the loss was Grady's fault at all?  It would be really great if you could show me where I have pinned any of the loss on Jeff Grady.  To the contrary, I put this loss far more on Coach Hill than Jeff Grady.  The team was clearly unprepared and unmotivated to play and that falls squarely at the feet of the head coach.  The same goes for the game plan, Jeff Grady didn't come up with the decision to keep running the ball when the team was down by three scores, that was ultimately Coach Hill who is responsible.

If it is a matter of the Dogs just not being good enough, what is the point of cherry picking stats?  Who cares if the Dogs dominated the time of posesson?  Does it really make a difference if the Dogs were on par in first downs?

Their defense was good, our offense made them look a whole lot better than they were.

I always love the "have you played the game" take....  That is always good for a laugh...  So, those who have not done something should not have an opinion, namely a negative opinion of something....
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Posted: 12/20/2010 1:51 PM

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steinbornfs wrote: We got beat, and I'm not looking for any moral victory, sometimes you're not good enough and you lose. We wern't good enough. But to pin that on any particular individual, e.g.,  Grady is absurd. Where is it written that We're Fresno State and that alone entitles us to win football games? Nevada, BSU, and Hawaii might have something to say about that, yes?

Frankly, I sometimes wonder if some of you folks have ever played the game, or have you just made a profession of being a fan? Sometimes you do your best and your best just ain't good enough.

And I'd say that, from our viewpoint, NIU's defense was truly wicked. 40 points is a pretty good indicator of that fact.

Stein if you think that was Fresno State's best it's no wonder losses like the one against NIU don't bother you.  You truly have an inferior view of this team and it shows when you make statements such as the Dogs played their best this past Saturday because clearly they didn't.
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Posted: 12/21/2010 8:11 AM

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u-h-h-h-h, you must have me confused with someone else. Where did I say we played our best? Here's what I said:

"We did pretty well"

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Posted: 12/21/2010 8:25 AM

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"I always love the "have you played the game" take....  That is always good for a laugh...  So, those who have not done something should not have an opinion, namely a negative opinion of something...."

 




Yes, I do think playing the game gives one a better feel for what goes on during the game. Just like having your a$$ shot at gives you a better insight into what war's all about. Having experience in just about anything gives you more insight into that particular thing. I'm pretty sure you know that, why do you think experience counts so heavily when you apply for any skilled job?

Not saying you have to have played football to have some knowledge of the game, and not saying everyone who's played the game knows a lot about the game, some folks don't learn from any experience.

Well, merry Christmas, and best wishes for the new year, I have to go help my wife make cookies.
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Posted: 12/21/2010 2:12 PM

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nscfsu wrote:
steinbornfs wrote: We got beat, and I'm not looking for any moral victory, sometimes you're not good enough and you lose. We wern't good enough. But to pin that on any particular individual, e.g.,  Grady is absurd. Where is it written that We're Fresno State and that alone entitles us to win football games? Nevada, BSU, and Hawaii might have something to say about that, yes?

Frankly, I sometimes wonder if some of you folks have ever played the game, or have you just made a profession of being a fan? Sometimes you do your best and your best just ain't good enough.

And I'd say that, from our viewpoint, NIU's defense was truly wicked. 40 points is a pretty good indicator of that fact.

Stein if you think that was Fresno State's best it's no wonder losses like the one against NIU don't bother you.  You truly have an inferior view of this team and it shows when you make statements such as the Dogs played their best this past Saturday because clearly they didn't.
The team played pretty well, that is if you consider picking and choosing some stats that make things look better than they really were.
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Posted: 12/21/2010 2:22 PM

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steinbornfs wrote:
"I always love the "have you played the game" take....  That is always good for a laugh...  So, those who have not done something should not have an opinion, namely a negative opinion of something...."

 




Yes, I do think playing the game gives one a better feel for what goes on during the game. Just like having your a$$ shot at gives you a better insight into what war's all about. Having experience in just about anything gives you more insight into that particular thing. I'm pretty sure you know that, why do you think experience counts so heavily when you apply for any skilled job?

Not saying you have to have played football to have some knowledge of the game, and not saying everyone who's played the game knows a lot about the game, some folks don't learn from any experience.

Well, merry Christmas, and best wishes for the new year, I have to go help my wife make cookies.
So, those of us who played football on some level have a more valid opinion?  That is still pretty funny....  If Mike Bellotti thought the coaching and play calling was poor, that is a pretty credible confirmation to my own belief that running the ball and taking their time when down by 30 is a mistake.

Enjoy the winning the time of posession battle over NIU, it must be very satisfying.  Must be a heck of a feeling to know the Dogs ran 18 more plays on offense than the Huskies.  Has to really take the edge off of the a$$ kicking that took place in the game.
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