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Posted: 03/04/2013 9:58 AM

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Wow! Scheduling FSU is quite the feat considering the Seminoles rarely leave their backyard for nonconference games.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/04/3266237/flor ida-state-announces-home-and.html

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Posted: 03/04/2013 10:07 AM

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props to boise for that
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Posted: 03/04/2013 10:18 AM

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qwertsod wrote: Wow! Scheduling FSU is quite the feat considering the Seminoles rarely leave their backyard for nonconference games.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/04/3266237/flor ida-state-announces-home-and.html
Nice if it ever happens.  6 years out and with the other FSU likely headed to the Big-12 this match up may never materialize.

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Posted: 03/04/2013 10:28 AM

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LuDog70 wrote:
qwertsod wrote: Wow! Scheduling FSU is quite the feat considering the Seminoles rarely leave their backyard for nonconference games.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/04/3266237/flor ida-state-announces-home-and.html
Nice if it ever happens.  6 years out and with the other FSU likely headed to the Big-12 this match up may never materialize.
Ludog, I agree 6-years out is long time in today's college football world. Boise may not even be in the MWC by that time. Whether they are or are not may have little to no effect on their OOC schedule. 

Look for Boise to continue to prefer their OOC games to be against teams in the East. ESPN play's a big role as to what Boise does or does not do. One may even say ESPN drives Boise's bus when it comes to OOC.
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Posted: 03/04/2013 6:50 PM

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I think with the new format in college more teams will look to schedule tougher mid majors instead of Div II teams.
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Posted: 03/04/2013 7:33 PM

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Lets see, Boise goes to FSU in 2019, and FSU gives Boise $400,000 for canceling in 2020 (provided Boise is still really good).biggrintongue
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Posted: 03/04/2013 10:06 PM

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Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
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Posted: 03/04/2013 10:48 PM

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winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 4:58 AM

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And the folks down the road (Univ of VA) have scheduled a one and one against Boise as well.  The local news was complaining that UVA should not ne playing these "powerhouses" as it just hurts their overall record and bowl chances.  They play them in 2014 or 15 and then return game two years later.  Just funny that a BCS school is playing a non BCS and saying they need to soften their scheduling.   They pretty much said that is a guaranteed loss.  Wow.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 6:19 AM

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Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.

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Posted: 03/05/2013 7:20 AM

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LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.
Yes, there is a glaring difference. Going in to these games Boise is perceived as having a chance winning these games whereas in the past Fresno was a decidedly underdog. Fresno played-up for the games you mentioned and then basically folded after that even to the point of being blown-out by Boise. Outside of Georgia blowing out Boise in 2004 or 2005 (I don't remember) Boise has won against the big boys with the exception of Michigan State this past season. 

Ludog, you are smart enough to see the difference, but emotionally it is hard for to accept it. There is a reason Boise is respected in the way they are respected and Fresno is not. Will this change? I hope so and I am encouraged with what is happening with Fresno now. I think Fresno along with SDSU are going to be a serious challenge to Boise in the future.

I was never against Fresno's scheduling, but Fresno has to win these games. Boise did not schedule these big boy games until they knew they had a better than even chance to win them. Scheduling means nothing unless you are a serious player, otherwise you are just a "body-bag".

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Posted: 03/05/2013 10:56 AM

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Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.
Yes, there is a glaring difference. Going in to these games Boise is perceived as having a chance winning these games whereas in the past Fresno was a decidedly underdog. Fresno played-up for the games you mentioned and then basically folded after that even to the point of being blown-out by Boise. Outside of Georgia blowing out Boise in 2004 or 2005 (I don't remember) Boise has won against the big boys with the exception of Michigan State this past season. 

Ludog, you are smart enough to see the difference, but emotionally it is hard for to accept it. There is a reason Boise is respected in the way they are respected and Fresno is not. Will this change? I hope so and I am encouraged with what is happening with Fresno now. I think Fresno along with SDSU are going to be a serious challenge to Boise in the future.

I was never against Fresno's scheduling, but Fresno has to win these games. Boise did not schedule these big boy games until they knew they had a better than even chance to win them. Scheduling means nothing unless you are a serious player, otherwise you are just a "body-bag".
Fair point.  Although, I take issue with several teams that Boise lists where we'd be an underdog going forward, not the past.  WAZZU and UVA are jokes and shouldn't even be "BCS" teams.  Utah is struggling to stay out of joke status.  BYU and Oregon State are good some years and not much others.  The only teams on Boise's list that are impressive are the other FSU, Okie State and to a lesser degree MSU. 

One thing's for certain, Petersen is smart enough not to venture into Death Valley or Tuscaloosa, unlike the Kamakazi Pat Hill.

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Posted: 03/05/2013 10:57 AM

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Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.
Yes, there is a glaring difference. Going in to these games Boise is perceived as having a chance winning these games whereas in the past Fresno was a decidedly underdog. Fresno played-up for the games you mentioned and then basically folded after that even to the point of being blown-out by Boise. Outside of Georgia blowing out Boise in 2004 or 2005 (I don't remember) Boise has won against the big boys with the exception of Michigan State this past season. 

Ludog, you are smart enough to see the difference, but emotionally it is hard for to accept it. There is a reason Boise is respected in the way they are respected and Fresno is not. Will this change? I hope so and I am encouraged with what is happening with Fresno now. I think Fresno along with SDSU are going to be a serious challenge to Boise in the future.

I was never against Fresno's scheduling, but Fresno has to win these games. Boise did not schedule these big boy games until they knew they had a better than even chance to win them. Scheduling means nothing unless you are a serious player, otherwise you are just a "body-bag".

LOL...an ironic statement with respect to bsu.

I am glad that bsu is finally pushing their scheduling, it will be interesting to see how it works for them.



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Posted: 03/05/2013 11:22 AM

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LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.
Yes, there is a glaring difference. Going in to these games Boise is perceived as having a chance winning these games whereas in the past Fresno was a decidedly underdog. Fresno played-up for the games you mentioned and then basically folded after that even to the point of being blown-out by Boise. Outside of Georgia blowing out Boise in 2004 or 2005 (I don't remember) Boise has won against the big boys with the exception of Michigan State this past season. 

Ludog, you are smart enough to see the difference, but emotionally it is hard for to accept it. There is a reason Boise is respected in the way they are respected and Fresno is not. Will this change? I hope so and I am encouraged with what is happening with Fresno now. I think Fresno along with SDSU are going to be a serious challenge to Boise in the future.

I was never against Fresno's scheduling, but Fresno has to win these games. Boise did not schedule these big boy games until they knew they had a better than even chance to win them. Scheduling means nothing unless you are a serious player, otherwise you are just a "body-bag".
Fair point.  Although, I take issue with several teams that Boise lists where we'd be an underdog going forward, not the past.  WAZZU and UVA are jokes and shouldn't even be "BCS" teams.  Utah is struggling to stay out of joke status.  BYU and Oregon State are good some years and not much others.  The only teams on Boise's list that are impressive are the other FSU, Okie State and to a lesser degree MSU. 

One thing's for certain, Petersen is smart enough not to venture into Death Valley or Tuscaloosa, unlike the Kamakazi Pat Hill.
I think from here on out I would not be afraid Fresno playing any of the OOC games Boise has scheduled.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 11:29 AM

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Dogs4Me wrote:

I am glad that bsu is finally pushing their scheduling, it will be interesting to see how it works for them.
It will work great for them. Boise is bolstering its recruit prospects each season and are not going to take on anymore than they think they can chew. I don't see anyone on their OOC they cannot beat. Several teams in the MWC get strong with Fresno being one of them and Boise will be in position for a "Big Money" bowl. The same can be said for Fresno once Fresno can get past the Boise hurdle. It isn't going to be a matter of Boise slipping, but a matter of Fresno catching-up.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 11:29 AM

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Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.
Yes, there is a glaring difference. Going in to these games Boise is perceived as having a chance winning these games whereas in the past Fresno was a decidedly underdog. Fresno played-up for the games you mentioned and then basically folded after that even to the point of being blown-out by Boise. Outside of Georgia blowing out Boise in 2004 or 2005 (I don't remember) Boise has won against the big boys with the exception of Michigan State this past season. 

Ludog, you are smart enough to see the difference, but emotionally it is hard for to accept it. There is a reason Boise is respected in the way they are respected and Fresno is not. Will this change? I hope so and I am encouraged with what is happening with Fresno now. I think Fresno along with SDSU are going to be a serious challenge to Boise in the future.

I was never against Fresno's scheduling, but Fresno has to win these games. Boise did not schedule these big boy games until they knew they had a better than even chance to win them. Scheduling means nothing unless you are a serious player, otherwise you are just a "body-bag".

they got blown out on 2005, but got revenge in the dome in 2011
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Posted: 03/05/2013 11:44 AM

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Fresno has had a losers mentality for so long it gets ingrained. I know I have a hard time separating the Fresno then with the Fresno now at times. I will admit getting blown-out by SMU shook my timber. But I truly do think it was aberrational as much as anything else.

I do think this coming season Fresno team will be better than last season's team and the one after this one stronger than this one. Stuff like this is relative in the sense so will other teams in the MWC be stronger ....especially Boise and SDSU as well as just about any team in the MWC. In all probability Boise, Fresno and SDSU will be the only three MWC teams with any serious credibility Nationally.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 11:57 AM

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What Fresno State needs to do is secure some more matchups with Pac-12 opponents like the Arizona and Washington schools (we all know we want to play more in-state Pac-12 teams, but that's a different argument). The Utah series was a good step in locking down more of those games. No reason why after all these years Arizona or ASU wouldn't want to do at least a 2-for-1 series with the 'Dogs. Arizona plays future home-and-homes with UNLV, Nevada and Hawaii; Arizona State plays future home-and-home with New Mexico and San Diego State; Washington State plays future home-and-homes with Boise State and Nevada. It's been a long time since Fresno State played all three of those programs. Those are good (but not no-chance-to-win matchups for Fresno State, but not ridiculously long road trips either. Fresno State seems to have a lot of openings from 2015 and beyond, so I'll be curious what approach the school takes to scheduling.

I really like what Nevada's future schedules look like, and that's a blueprint Fresno State should follow: 

http://www.fbschedules.com/nca...a-wolf-pack.php

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Posted: 03/05/2013 12:04 PM

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FresnoStater wrote: What Fresno State needs to do is secure some more matchups with Pac-12 opponents like the Arizona and Washington schools (we all know we want to play more in-state Pac-12 teams, but that's a different argument). The Utah series was a good step in locking down more of those games. No reason why after all these years Arizona or ASU wouldn't want to do at least a 2-for-1 series with the 'Dogs. Arizona plays future home-and-homes with UNLV, Nevada and Hawaii; Arizona State plays future home-and-home with New Mexico and San Diego State; Washington State plays future home-and-homes with Boise State and Nevada. It's been a long time since Fresno State played all three of those programs. Those are good (but not no-chance-to-win matchups for Fresno State, but not ridiculously long road trips either. Fresno State seems to have a lot of openings from 2015 and beyond, so I'll be curious what approach the school takes to scheduling.
What you outline sounds ideal to me. I have no clue as to what it is it is not getting done. There has to be a reason and I just don't know what it is. Maybe someone can shed some light on this?
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Posted: 03/05/2013 12:35 PM

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I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.
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ryco14 wrote: I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.
 Good add for Oregon State. I was going to mention the Beavs too, but to OSU's credit it seems like it's been the most frequent Pac-12 opponent Fresno State's played and made multiple trips to Bulldog Stadium. I would like to rekindle that series someday soon as well.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 12:59 PM

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Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
winthewac wrote: Florida St will play it...... good for Boise..... they've earned it.
Boise State is building a good schedule over the next six years. So far Wazzu, Oregon State, Washington, Ole Miss, Virginia, Florida State, Michigan State and I am sure there will be more. Oklahoma State being talked about as well as BYU and Utah. 

There should be 4-5 very reputable MWC teams develop over the next six years especially Fresno State and SDSU being top 25 caliber. Boise should have a good enough SOS if any MWC team defeats Boise it will give that team a big boost in terms of "big-money" bowl chances.
How is this any different than us playing Nebraska, USC, Wisconsin, LSU, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, TAMU, Rutgers and others?  I suppose this is just different for Boise.
Yes, there is a glaring difference. Going in to these games Boise is perceived as having a chance winning these games whereas in the past Fresno was a decidedly underdog. Fresno played-up for the games you mentioned and then basically folded after that even to the point of being blown-out by Boise. Outside of Georgia blowing out Boise in 2004 or 2005 (I don't remember) Boise has won against the big boys with the exception of Michigan State this past season. 

Ludog, you are smart enough to see the difference, but emotionally it is hard for to accept it. There is a reason Boise is respected in the way they are respected and Fresno is not. Will this change? I hope so and I am encouraged with what is happening with Fresno now. I think Fresno along with SDSU are going to be a serious challenge to Boise in the future.

I was never against Fresno's scheduling, but Fresno has to win these games. Boise did not schedule these big boy games until they knew they had a better than even chance to win them. Scheduling means nothing unless you are a serious player, otherwise you are just a "body-bag".
Fair point.  Although, I take issue with several teams that Boise lists where we'd be an underdog going forward, not the past.  WAZZU and UVA are jokes and shouldn't even be "BCS" teams.  Utah is struggling to stay out of joke status.  BYU and Oregon State are good some years and not much others.  The only teams on Boise's list that are impressive are the other FSU, Okie State and to a lesser degree MSU. 

One thing's for certain, Petersen is smart enough not to venture into Death Valley or Tuscaloosa, unlike the Kamakazi Pat Hill.
I think from here on out I would not be afraid Fresno playing any of the OOC games Boise has scheduled.
Agreed.  It was bad enough to take average FSU teams into hostile environments such as Camp Randall or Lincoln but taking a bad FSU team into Death Valley with a first time starter, D-III level QB, was the most embarrassing night of my FSU fan career.  I still remember one of the LSU D lineman patting SN on the head after yet another Int. on that miserable rainy night.

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Posted: 03/05/2013 1:37 PM

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should have cancelled that game during the lighning storm

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babydaddyschlegel12 wrote:

should have cancelled that game during the lighning storm

I was there at this LSU tailgate and it was raining "cats and dogs". This gal tells me not to worry it never rains during game-time in tiger stadium. I'll be damn, she was right. It stopped raining  almost at the whistle and nary a drop after that.

I was sitting next to an old time Fresno fan. We kept running the same play over and over, the same place getting stopped every single time. This old guy turns to me and asks, "Do we have the dumbest coach in college football?" I answered "Could be, but for sure he enjoys getting his azz-kicked".
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Posted: 03/05/2013 3:50 PM

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Fangdog wrote:
babydaddyschlegel12 wrote:

should have cancelled that game during the lighning storm

I was there at this LSU tailgate and it was raining "cats and dogs". This gal tells me not to worry it never rains during game-time in tiger stadium. I'll be damn, she was right. It stopped raining  almost at the whistle and nary a drop after that.

I was sitting next to an old time Fresno fan. We kept running the same play over and over, the same place getting stopped every single time. This old guy turns to me and asks, "Do we have the dumbest coach in college football?" I answered "Could be, but for sure he enjoys getting his azz-kicked".
Nothing like reminiscing about Hill's play calling, the good old days..... What I remember most from that game was their little track star RB simply flying by every player on our defense. That kid was lighting. Anyone know what ever happened to him?

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559notown wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
babydaddyschlegel12 wrote:

should have cancelled that game during the lighning storm

I was there at this LSU tailgate and it was raining "cats and dogs". This gal tells me not to worry it never rains during game-time in tiger stadium. I'll be damn, she was right. It stopped raining  almost at the whistle and nary a drop after that.

I was sitting next to an old time Fresno fan. We kept running the same play over and over, the same place getting stopped every single time. This old guy turns to me and asks, "Do we have the dumbest coach in college football?" I answered "Could be, but for sure he enjoys getting his azz-kicked".
Nothing like reminiscing about Hill's play calling, the good old days..... What I remember most from that game was their little track star RB simply flying by every player on our defense. That kid was lighting. Anyone know what ever happened to him?
I got off "little track star RB" watch right after the game and have no clue what happened to him.
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559notown wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
babydaddyschlegel12 wrote:

should have cancelled that game during the lighning storm

I was there at this LSU tailgate and it was raining "cats and dogs". This gal tells me not to worry it never rains during game-time in tiger stadium. I'll be damn, she was right. It stopped raining  almost at the whistle and nary a drop after that.

I was sitting next to an old time Fresno fan. We kept running the same play over and over, the same place getting stopped every single time. This old guy turns to me and asks, "Do we have the dumbest coach in college football?" I answered "Could be, but for sure he enjoys getting his azz-kicked".
Nothing like reminiscing about Hill's play calling, the good old days..... What I remember most from that game was their little track star RB simply flying by every player on our defense. That kid was lighting. Anyone know what ever happened to him?
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I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.

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UCLA plays at Nevada because a) it increases their visibility in the Reno-Sacramento corridor for recruits they likely compete with Cal for and b) Reno-Tahoe is a good road trip for their alumni either in LA or the Sacramento/SF Bay Area. That is, assuming UCLA doesnt buy out the return game as Nevada plays at the Rose Bowl the first two games before the return game to Reno.

Outside of Being near Yosemite, playing Fresno brings none of those things as UCLA can get almost any player from Modesto-Tulare they want.

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UCLA plays at Nevada because a) it increases their visibility in the Reno-Sacramento corridor for recruits they likely compete with Cal for and b) Reno-Tahoe is a good road trip for their alumni either in LA or the Sacramento/SF Bay Area. That is, assuming UCLA doesnt buy out the return game as Nevada plays at the Rose Bowl the first two games before the return game to Reno.

Outside of Being near Yosemite, playing Fresno brings none of those things as UCLA can get almost any player from Modesto-Tulare they want.
You are 100% correct. 

Although it makes all the sense in the world for Fresno fans to think the California PAC-12 teams should play Fresno in OOC. It really doesn't make much sense for them. I don't think it is necessary to get hung-up on it. What has to be understood when it comes to quality recruits the number-one draw is "winning". Recruits don't really care where they play if they think they are signing on to a "winning" program. Boise is a perfect example of this. 

This is what makes Fresno's present program so exciting. It will take a little time, but the sense I get Fresno is going to really something special with this present program. As DeRuyter has stated, a winners "culture" has to be developed and last season was a great start in this direction. We don't need the California PAC-12 at all to accomplish this. 

What makes this next season so exciting is knowing Fresno is going to make some "noise" of National interest. I love next seasons schedule and think it is perfect for Fresno at this point. DeRuyter will stay as long as he feels he is getting support and progress is being made as far as what he thinks essential for the programs positive progress. DeRuyter has no, as in zero interest in settling for mediocrity.
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I'm guessing that Boise plans on increasing stadium size by the time FSUe rolls into Boise. Same for OkieSt and VA. And MSU.
Re the comment that FSUe doesn't leave Fl--I think you have them confused with the Gators. The Gators haven't left Florida for OOC since 1991 when Syracuse handed them their tails.
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alanweezie wrote: I'm guessing that Boise plans on increasing stadium size by the time FSUe rolls into Boise. Same for OkieSt and VA. And MSU.
Re the comment that FSUe doesn't leave Fl--I think you have them confused with the Gators. The Gators haven't left Florida for OOC since 1991 when Syracuse handed them their tails.
That is true as to Boise increasing stadium size. I think their goal is to be somewhere around 47,000. Right now their fans are complaining about ticket prices being too high which they are high. It is their hopes a larger stadium will make ticket prices more affordable.
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I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.

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UCLA plays at Nevada because a) it increases their visibility in the Reno-Sacramento corridor for recruits they likely compete with Cal for and b) Reno-Tahoe is a good road trip for their alumni either in LA or the Sacramento/SF Bay Area. That is, assuming UCLA doesnt buy out the return game as Nevada plays at the Rose Bowl the first two games before the return game to Reno.

Outside of Being near Yosemite, playing Fresno brings none of those things as UCLA can get almost any player from Modesto-Tulare they want.
I'm not sure I follow your logic.  Cal has regularly scheduled UNR, yet they already have high brand awareness in Sacto/Reno.  Same for Stanford scheduling San Jose State.  Same for Oregon, Oregon State and UW with Boise. 

I just blame Welty and our past/present ADs for not doing a good job with lining up regional opponents.

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LuDog70 wrote:
qwertsod wrote:
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I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.

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UCLA plays at Nevada because a) it increases their visibility in the Reno-Sacramento corridor for recruits they likely compete with Cal for and b) Reno-Tahoe is a good road trip for their alumni either in LA or the Sacramento/SF Bay Area. That is, assuming UCLA doesnt buy out the return game as Nevada plays at the Rose Bowl the first two games before the return game to Reno.

Outside of Being near Yosemite, playing Fresno brings none of those things as UCLA can get almost any player from Modesto-Tulare they want.
I'm not sure I follow your logic.  Cal has regularly scheduled UNR, yet they already have high brand awareness in Sacto/Reno.  Same for Stanford scheduling San Jose State.  Same for Oregon, Oregon State and UW with Boise. 

I just blame Welty and our past/present ADs for not doing a good job with lining up regional opponents.
Ludog I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Welty has demonstrated over and over again his incompetency in regard to Fresno State athletics.....I mean the guy is a complete zero. I am not sure about Boeh. I go from thinking he is doing a good job to thinking maybe not so. I do know there has been instances Boeh wanted to do one thing and Welty the other and it is obvious who holds the choke-chain. 

I know you get sick of this, but I see the contrast with the job Bob Kustra does for Boise. I guarantee if we had Kustra and Boise had Welty, we would be Boise and Boise would be Fresno. To me it is obvious, but for you perhaps not as much. 

I know you are a business man and I like to think if I was an owner of a big company who would I want running my company given only two choices; Welty or Kustra? I wouldn't have to sleep-on-it for making my decision. If you as a competing company chose Welty and I chose Kustra I will bury you in a heartbeat.  biggrin
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Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
qwertsod wrote:
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I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.

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UCLA plays at Nevada because a) it increases their visibility in the Reno-Sacramento corridor for recruits they likely compete with Cal for and b) Reno-Tahoe is a good road trip for their alumni either in LA or the Sacramento/SF Bay Area. That is, assuming UCLA doesnt buy out the return game as Nevada plays at the Rose Bowl the first two games before the return game to Reno.

Outside of Being near Yosemite, playing Fresno brings none of those things as UCLA can get almost any player from Modesto-Tulare they want.
I'm not sure I follow your logic.  Cal has regularly scheduled UNR, yet they already have high brand awareness in Sacto/Reno.  Same for Stanford scheduling San Jose State.  Same for Oregon, Oregon State and UW with Boise. 

I just blame Welty and our past/present ADs for not doing a good job with lining up regional opponents.
Ludog I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Welty has demonstrated over and over again his incompetency in regard to Fresno State athletics.....I mean the guy is a complete zero. I am not sure about Boeh. I go from thinking he is doing a good job to thinking maybe not so. I do know there has been instances Boeh wanted to do one thing and Welty the other and it is obvious who holds the choke-chain. 

I know you get sick of this, but I see the contrast with the job Bob Kustra does for Boise. I guarantee if we had Kustra and Boise had Welty, we would be Boise and Boise would be Fresno. To me it is obvious, but for you perhaps not as much. 

I know you are a business man and I like to think if I was an owner of a big company who would I want running my company given only two choices; Welty or Kustra? I wouldn't have to sleep-on-it for making my decision. If you as a competing company chose Welty and I chose Kustra I will bury you in a heartbeat.  biggrin
Welty has been asleep at the proverbial "switch" for years in many areas, but especially with FSU athletics.  He's been more interested in building his legacy which includes everything except athletics for over a decade.  I've met him several times inside and outside of athletic venues.  I agree, the dude is totally unimpressive and in some ways a little creepy.   

I've also met Boeh several times.  Boeh is a bureaucrat and a compliance guy.  He came in to clean up our gender equity mess and that job is essentially complete.  What we now need is a guy who can rotate and seriously invest in the only money maker we have- Football.  If Boeh can rotate and be that guy, great.  But if he can't, we need someone like a Scott Barnes. 

IMO, the single biggest open question regarding FSU athletics isn't Conference Realignment, or TV Contracts or attendance or the BDF or any other factor directly related to the AD.  That open question is who replaces Welty.  If we get another Welty-esque "zero" in that job, we're destined for decades of athletic mediocrity.

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Welty has been asleep at the proverbial "switch" for years in many areas, but especially with FSU athletics.  He's been more interested in building his legacy which includes everything except athletics for over a decade.  I've met him several times inside and outside of athletic venues.  I agree, the dude is totally unimpressive and in some ways a little creepy.   

I've also met Boeh several times.  Boeh is a bureaucrat and a compliance guy.  He came in to clean up our gender equity mess and that job is essentially complete.  What we now need is a guy who can rotate and seriously invest in the only money maker we have- Football.  If Boeh can rotate and be that guy, great.  But if he can't, we need someone like a Scott Barnes. 

IMO, the single biggest open question regarding FSU athletics isn't Conference Realignment, or TV Contracts or attendance or the BDF or any other factor directly related to the AD.  That open question is who replaces Welty.  If we get another Welty-esque "zero" in that job, we're destined for decades of athletic mediocrity.
Ditto the concern as to who replaces Welty being the single most important factor. The names I have heard bandied about have been very encouraging from my point of view. I guess I favor Pete Mehas because have known him personally for a long, long time but any of the names I have heard I would feel comfortable.

Your word describing Welty a little "creepy" is the word I been missing all this time because that he is or at least gives me that sort of feeling. Thanks clarifying the word I been searching but couldn't put my finger on. lol 

Exciting times for Fresno football as long as some "dick-head" doesn't screw it up.

So I guess you are not going to hire Welty to run your company either? So now I am going to have to work like hell to bury you, dammit.  biggrin
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Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
qwertsod wrote: Wow! Scheduling FSU is quite the feat considering the Seminoles rarely leave their backyard for nonconference games.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/04/3266237/flor ida-state-announces-home-and.html
Nice if it ever happens.  6 years out and with the other FSU likely headed to the Big-12 this match up may never materialize.
Ludog, I agree 6-years out is long time in today's college football world. Boise may not even be in the MWC by that time. Whether they are or are not may have little to no effect on their OOC schedule. 

Look for Boise to continue to prefer their OOC games to be against teams in the East. ESPN play's a big role as to what Boise does or does not do. One may even say ESPN drives Boise's bus when it comes to OOC.
Exactly ESPN will get the Boise deal with the MWC unless another OTA channel wants to bid on it which is highly unlikely.  As the sole source bonus provider ESPN will get these games at a slight discount to market and they will take advantage of that by insuring good games to broadcast.

Boise and ESPN's financial interests are far more aligned than Boise and the MWC.
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ryco14 wrote: I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.
It will be interesting how the new contract affects that.  Teams want to be on ESPN and Boise will be able to provide that (plus a nice bonus for themselves)

The MWC schedule will likely be owned CBSSports, FoxSports1 or NBCsports which won't be as attractive.  I think comparing ourselves to Boise when we don't have our own TV deal with ESPN is not an applies to apples comparison.
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sactowndog wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
LuDog70 wrote:
qwertsod wrote: Wow! Scheduling FSU is quite the feat considering the Seminoles rarely leave their backyard for nonconference games.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/04/3266237/flor ida-state-announces-home-and.html
Nice if it ever happens.  6 years out and with the other FSU likely headed to the Big-12 this match up may never materialize.
Ludog, I agree 6-years out is long time in today's college football world. Boise may not even be in the MWC by that time. Whether they are or are not may have little to no effect on their OOC schedule. 

Look for Boise to continue to prefer their OOC games to be against teams in the East. ESPN play's a big role as to what Boise does or does not do. One may even say ESPN drives Boise's bus when it comes to OOC.
Exactly ESPN will get the Boise deal with the MWC unless another OTA channel wants to bid on it which is highly unlikely.  As the sole source bonus provider ESPN will get these games at a slight discount to market and they will take advantage of that by insuring good games to broadcast.

Boise and ESPN's financial interests are far more aligned than Boise and the MWC.
Fox Sports 1 will launch August 17th in 90-million homes. This is an all sports network with the intent for competing with ESPN. They will cover college football. This may be enough competition for ESPN to the point they don't think about discounting. This channel takes over the SPEED channel I believe. It will be National and that is a plus for any school in the MWC. You can bet they are going to want Boise and ESPN may not have Boise by the yeng-yang they think they do. It will be interesting to see how this all this shakes-out.
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ryco14 wrote: I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.
It will be interesting how the new contract affects that.  Teams want to be on ESPN and Boise will be able to provide that (plus a nice bonus for themselves)

The MWC schedule will likely be owned CBSSports, FoxSports1 or NBCsports which won't be as attractive.  I think comparing ourselves to Boise when we don't have our own TV deal with ESPN is not an applies to apples comparison.
ESPN has been the "big dog" of sports networks and especially with CF for some time.  Look for Fox (Newscorp) and NBC (Comcast) to challenge that dominance combined with CBS which already has the most valuable CF commodity- SEC Football.  Both Newscorp and Comcast have the financial muscle to slug it out with Disney.  You've already seen them step up their offerings last season, this will only intensify in the upcoming years.  

Going forward, I could easily see TV contracts become more customized or even bundled versus conference driven.  Why wouldn't a NBC or Fox bundle with the best of schools of a given geography rather than be forced to carry the losers of the conferences known as "BCS?"  Bundling a San Diego State, Fresno State and Boise State would be much more attractive than being forced to carry a Wazzu, CU, or Indiana. 


But then again, I don't know excrement about the TV Sports business so disregard most of what I say.

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LuDog70 wrote:
sactowndog wrote:
ryco14 wrote: I totally agree.  In fact if all of our OOC was Pac12 it would be fantastic.  Wazzou, ASU and AZ should be attainable.  I would like to add the Beavers to that list.  It's been a while and they are good with home and home instead of 2 for 1.  We need a break from Oregon.  Stanford will never play us.  If UCLA will play AT NEVADA then somehow someway we should get at 2 or even 3 for 1.  It will be like 4 home games they way Dog fans travel to the Rose Bowl.
It will be interesting how the new contract affects that.  Teams want to be on ESPN and Boise will be able to provide that (plus a nice bonus for themselves)

The MWC schedule will likely be owned CBSSports, FoxSports1 or NBCsports which won't be as attractive.  I think comparing ourselves to Boise when we don't have our own TV deal with ESPN is not an applies to apples comparison.
ESPN has been the "big dog" of sports networks and especially with CF for some time.  Look for Fox (Newscorp) and NBC (Comcast) to challenge that dominance combined with CBS which already has the most valuable CF commodity- SEC Football.  Both Newscorp and Comcast have the financial muscle to slug it out with Disney.  You've already seen them step up their offerings last season, this will only intensify in the upcoming years.  

Going forward, I could easily see TV contracts become more customized or even bundled versus conference driven.  Why wouldn't a NBC or Fox bundle with the best of schools of a given geography rather than be forced to carry the losers of the conferences known as "BCS?"  Bundling a San Diego State, Fresno State and Boise State would be much more attractive than being forced to carry a Wazzu, CU, or Indiana. 


But then again, I don't know excrement about the TV Sports business so disregard most of what I say.
I will agree you may not know much about the TV Sports business, but that doesn't take away from what makes commonsense. I too see customized "bundling" and all I know about TV Sports is looking in the guide trying to find a particular game.

We are seeing customization already with Boise being one example. I can see a Fresno, SDSU and Boise "bundle" down the road. I really don't see anyone else in the MWC being all that attractive in the near future if ever. I would like to see a couple more teams in the MWC become "All they can be". It would be nice to have at least 5-teams in the MWC represent more than just "body-bags".
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