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Posted: 02/20/2013 8:27 PM
Colorado a possible trap game
I did a little research and we played a team last year that started 7 true freshman. With Coach MAC taking over I expect a much improved team and by no means will this be a sure win, especially on the road. Those were PAC 12 freshman that are now SO with an entire year under their belt and are about to recieve a major upgrade in coaching. Mix in the fact that they return all 5 offensive lineman as well as their entire secondary and we may be in for a dog fight here folks.
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Offense: QB: Jordan Webb SR. 54% 8TD’s 8INT’s RB: Christian Powell SO. 4.4 YPC 7 TD’s WR: Nelson Spruce SO. 37 YPG 10 YPC 3TD’s Tyler McCulloch JR. 36 YPG 13 YPC 2td’S TE: Graduated with no one else accumulating any stats C: Gus Handler SR. OT: Jack Harris SR. OG: Alexander Lewis JR. C/OG: Daniel Munyer JR. OT: Stephane Nembot SO. Defense: DT: Josh Tupou SO. DE: Chidera Uzo-Diribe SR. ILB: Derrick Webb SR. CB: Kenneth Crawley SO. CB: Greg Henderson JR. CB: Yuri Wright SO. FS: Marques Mosley SO. SS: Terrel Smith SR.
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Posted: 02/20/2013 8:47 PM
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Coaching can only take a team that utterly devoid of talent so far.
We won't drop 35 in one quarter on them with no effort. But we'll win without too much hassle.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 12:48 AM
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Not with that attitude we won't. Thank god you're not the coach or we would lose every game. Look what CTD did in one year and your telling me coaching can only go so far with a lack of talent? CTD flip flopped our record in one year while only having time to implement 1/2 of both his offensive and defensive schemes. And if you don't think that there isn't any talent at Colorado than you are sadly mistaken. Did they go 1-11, yes. Did we beat the living sh*t out of them last year in 110 degree heat yea. Colorado is a PAC 12 school that steals recruits from us all the time. I would venture to say their overall talent level isn't that far from ours if not equal. Personally I believe they quit on their coach last year. He had no business being a coach in such a competitive conference and it showed. I have no merit or proof about my previous statement but I saw lazy tackling, lazy route running and a coach that was over his head. His only previous coaching experience was as a TE coach at both the college and NFL levels. He wasn't ready nor will he ever be from what he displayed be a head coach again and is back where he belongs, coaching TE's for the KC Chief's. Now I am not sure if you have heard copter but this guy Mike MacIntyre did the impossible and won 11 games at SJSU in just 3 years. Guess what he inherited a team that went 2-10 and in 3 years he flip flopped those number plus a bowl victory. All while at a place where the football team receives zero funding, has crappy fan support and I'm guessing when he took it over had far less talent than the current Colorado roster he is inheriting. Not to mention Colorado was one of the youngest teams in the nation that will be much improved with all those youngsters having 1 year under their belt. And by the way we had the luxury of playing them when their stud RB was banged up and he is only a sophomore. His success this year will be finding a QB that can fit his system. They currently have 5 QB's on the roster including two 3 star freshman that will fight to be the starter out the gate. Something tells me McIntyre wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't think he could turn around the sinking ship. So yes, it is a trap game that I know CTD will not be overlooking as you seem to. I would be willing to wager that he gets them to 6 wins this year and a bowl birth.... the most improved team that we face all year.ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: Coaching can only take a team that utterly devoid of talent so far.
We won't drop 35 in one quarter on them with no effort. But we'll win without too much hassle.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 1:20 AM
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CTD had the benefit of numerous key players not available to PH in 2011. Macintyre doesn't have Thomas, Smith, Adams et al waiting in the wings to suddenly turn that ship around. Colorado is in a sad, sad situation. Mac might be the right guy to turn it around but it's going to be one hell of a chore for him. You don't have a season like Colorado's without serious talent issues. You want to point to his success at SJSU and turning that program around? In his first year he went 1-12. 559notown wrote: Not with that attitude we won't. Thank god you're not the coach or we would lose every game. Look what CTD did in one year and your telling me coaching can only go so far with a lack of talent? CTD flip flopped our record in one year while only having time to implement 1/2 of both his offensive and defensive schemes. And if you don't think that there isn't any talent at Colorado than you are sadly mistaken. Did they go 1-11, yes. Did we beat the living sh*t out of them last year in 110 degree heat yea.
Colorado is a PAC 12 school that steals recruits from us all the time. I would venture to say their overall talent level isn't that far from ours if not equal. Personally I believe they quit on their coach last year. He had no business being a coach in such a competitive conference and it showed. I have no merit or proof about my previous statement but I saw lazy tackling, lazy route running and a coach that was over his head. His only previous coaching experience was as a TE coach at both the college and NFL levels. He wasn't ready nor will he ever be from what he displayed be a head coach again and is back where he belongs, coaching TE's for the KC Chief's.
Now I am not sure if you have heard copter but this guy Mike MacIntyre did the impossible and won 11 games at SJSU in just 3 years. Guess what he inherited a team that went 2-10 and in 3 years he flip flopped those number plus a bowl victory. All while at a place where the football team receives zero funding, has crappy fan support and I'm guessing when he took it over had far less talent than the current Colorado roster he is inheriting. Not to mention Colorado was one of the youngest teams in the nation that will be much improved with all those youngsters having 1 year under their belt. And by the way we had the luxury of playing them when their stud RB was banged up and he is only a sophomore. His success this year will be finding a QB that can fit his system. They currently have 5 QB's on the roster including two 3 star freshman that will fight to be the starter out the gate. Something tells me McIntyre wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't think he could turn around the sinking ship.
So yes, it is a trap game that I know CTD will not be overlooking as you seem to. I would be willing to wager that he gets them to 6 wins this year and a bowl birth....the most improved team that we face all year.
ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: Coaching can only take a team that utterly devoid of talent so far.
We won't drop 35 in one quarter on them with no effort. But we'll win without too much hassle.
"Bulldog Born, Bulldog Bred, And I'll Be A Bulldog Till The Day I'm Dead"
RIP Jim Sweeney.
Follow me on teh twitters @FAILCOPTER16
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Posted: 02/21/2013 2:25 AM
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I guess we will just have to agree to disagree but I have to get in one last word here. Colorado returns all 5 o-line starters from a year ago, their top 2 wide outs and a beast of a running back in Christian Powell. I'm telling you if Coan MAC finds his man and I believe he will out of the 5 they have on schollies their offense will be better than average. With that said MAC is a defensive guy and much like Fresno with CTD MAC is taking over a Defense that was well offensively bad. He was the DC at Temple and Duke and the DB coach with the Dallas Cowboys and the NY Jets. His team returns its top 3 corners and top two safeties. If you don't think he is going to get those guys making plays tah you must have no faith in him. The front 7 only returns 3 players but hey when you nly win 1 games sometimes turnover can be a good thing. tO BE HONEST i REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW i GOT OFF ON THIS TANGENT ABOut proving Colorado. Fact is they will be a work in progress and have a lot of issues. But this has trap game written all over it and we better take them seriously or we may not win as comfortably as you think. At the college level the two most important positions are head coach and QB. They have upgraded from a F to and A in the head coach department. Now if they can upgrade the QB department from an F to a C+/B- they will win 6 games mark my word. Now t\lets virtually shake hands like gentleman and agree to disagree:) OH yha and one last thing. Hill lost Thomas and Smith very true, but do you thing CTD would have let the wheels completely fall off the wagon like Hill did aka New Mexico State throwing the ball for 500 yards on us. The answer is no. Why? better coach. And CTD faced injury adversity himself. No Evans for four games, No Harper for most of the season. And as soon as Harpers replacement started making plays he tore his ACL. In a uptempo spread offense that sucks. And how about our LB's they were going down like flies the whole year not to mention we lost our best lineman in ADUB. Great coaches find ways to and guess what injuries happen to every team. Not just Hill's. It takes greatness to overcome adversity and CTD has it.... ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: CTD had the benefit of numerous key players not available to PH in 2011. Macintyre doesn't have Thomas, Smith, Adams et al waiting in the wings to suddenly turn that ship around.
Colorado is in a sad, sad situation. Mac might be the right guy to turn it around but it's going to be one hell of a chore for him. You don't have a season like Colorado's without serious talent issues. You want to point to his success at SJSU and turning that program around? In his first year he went 1-12.
559notown wrote: Not with that attitude we won't. Thank god you're not the coach or we would lose every game. Look what CTD did in one year and your telling me coaching can only go so far with a lack of talent? CTD flip flopped our record in one year while only having time to implement 1/2 of both his offensive and defensive schemes. And if you don't think that there isn't any talent at Colorado than you are sadly mistaken. Did they go 1-11, yes. Did we beat the living sh*t out of them last year in 110 degree heat yea.
Colorado is a PAC 12 school that steals recruits from us all the time. I would venture to say their overall talent level isn't that far from ours if not equal. Personally I believe they quit on their coach last year. He had no business being a coach in such a competitive conference and it showed. I have no merit or proof about my previous statement but I saw lazy tackling, lazy route running and a coach that was over his head. His only previous coaching experience was as a TE coach at both the college and NFL levels. He wasn't ready nor will he ever be from what he displayed be a head coach again and is back where he belongs, coaching TE's for the KC Chief's.
Now I am not sure if you have heard copter but this guy Mike MacIntyre did the impossible and won 11 games at SJSU in just 3 years. Guess what he inherited a team that went 2-10 and in 3 years he flip flopped those number plus a bowl victory. All while at a place where the football team receives zero funding, has crappy fan support and I'm guessing when he took it over had far less talent than the current Colorado roster he is inheriting. Not to mention Colorado was one of the youngest teams in the nation that will be much improved with all those youngsters having 1 year under their belt. And by the way we had the luxury of playing them when their stud RB was banged up and he is only a sophomore. His success this year will be finding a QB that can fit his system. They currently have 5 QB's on the roster including two 3 star freshman that will fight to be the starter out the gate. Something tells me McIntyre wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't think he could turn around the sinking ship.
So yes, it is a trap game that I know CTD will not be overlooking as you seem to. I would be willing to wager that he gets them to 6 wins this year and a bowl birth....the most improved team that we face all year.
ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: Coaching can only take a team that utterly devoid of talent so far.
We won't drop 35 in one quarter on them with no effort. But we'll win without too much hassle.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 3:31 AM
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Their returning OL is nothing to write home about. So long as Jordan Webb is the starter, we'll win, and win easily. MacIntyre would literally have to scratch the entire offense and rewrite the entire playbook from the ground up. And even that can only do so much, as you can't even begin to compare Fresno State's turnaround to Colorado's potential for one.
Frankly put, their status as a BCS team mean next to nothing. Fresno State has more talent on both sides of the ball than Colorado. And that's including the OL.
And while you can imagine Colorado has nowhere else to go but up, Fresno State next year will install most of its offense and defense, rather than relying on only half of.
It won't matter that this game is in Boulder. FS will be the only one to beat itself, it won't be Colorado...
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Posted: 02/21/2013 6:14 AM
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They did get a nice lil RB from San Diego's Helix High, Michael Adkins is actually a good back with real nice speed. He has nice size but depending on their need at the position he could probably see playing time.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 6:46 AM
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I agree. Colorado will def. be looking at this as a revenge game for them, and will be pumped up for their new coach. Anyone who thinks we will just walk all over them with "no hassle" is an idiot
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:06 AM
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With all due respect, one of the most over-used terms by message boards and media is referring to an opponent matchup as a trap game; at some point it's no longer considered a trap game when everyone keeps talking about a "possible trap game". And if teams ever lose to a team they have no business losing to and any coach or player suggests "we didn't take them seriously" or "or we just weren't ready to play", the trap game excuse doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned.
Competent coaches do everything they can, even if their team does fall in an upset, to remind players for an entire week to treat even bad opponents with some focus. That doesn't mean upsets like that don't happen, but only subpar coaches fall into the burned by a trap game syndrome. And while our coaching staff isn't perfect as the Hawaii Bowl proved and hopefully was a lesson learned, I think it understands that when you play just 12 regular-season games, you better do everything you can to have your team prepared. In terms of Colorado, even as bad as CU has been, a Fresno State should be excited to go on the road to play any Pac-12 opponent.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:11 AM
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Trap game? No. I see it more as a tune up before the Dogs see real competition.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:14 AM
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any game can be termed a "trap game" in my opinion, each team has to show up each weekend and play their "a". this is the state of college football these days
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:17 AM
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DK7000 wrote: Trap game? No. I see it more as a tune up before the Dogs see real competition. 'Cept we'll have already played Rutgers....
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:25 AM
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babydaddyschlegel12 wrote: any game can be termed a "trap game" in my opinion, each team has to show up each weekend and play their "a". this is the state of college football these days Right. This is no more, and perhaps less, of a trap game than any other game in the history of college footbal when comparing a team on the rise with a potentially lousy team. While it is plausible we lose, as it is with ANY game, it is tiring to hear people build up other teams more than they need to be built up, or deserve to be. It's also tiring to hear people say that we cannot be bad teams with anything less than our "A" game, or that we're lucky that so-and-so is supsended, or injuired, or that we are someone else's trap game. We have to get to teh point were we beat people regardless of who is injired or suspended, whether or not we are someone's "trap" game, and whether or not the other team is our "trap" game. It's about our group of guys outplaying their group of guys on that day.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:28 AM
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ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: DK7000 wrote: Trap game? No. I see it more as a tune up before the Dogs see real competition. 'Cept we'll have already played Rutgers.... I know. I was referring to Boise and SDSU.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:33 AM
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this is still a road game at pac 12 school, no matter how bad colorado was last year, that was last year, this is new year, yes we should be able to go into boulde & win again,
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:35 AM
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who was the last BCS opponent we beat on the road by the way?? was it UCLA???
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:44 AM
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Illinois, 2009 babydaddyschlegel12 wrote: who was the last BCS opponent we beat on the road by the way?? was it UCLA???
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Posted: 02/21/2013 10:04 AM
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CTD and staff will have extra incentive going into this game because of the poaching of FSU verbals that Coach Mac attempted, not to mention of the "bad-mouthing" of Fresno State that he did when he was at San Jose.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 10:12 AM
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oh yeah that 2 point conversion by cunningham ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Posted: 02/21/2013 10:47 AM
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babydaddyschlegel12 wrote: this is still a road game at pac 12 school, no matter how bad colorado was last year, that was last year, this is new year, yes we should be able to go into boulde & win again, Doesn't matter. It's still Colorado. They'll be lucky to win 3 games next year.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 11:11 AM
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Gotta' love the offseason.
The "F" in "FS" stands for Fickle
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Posted: 02/21/2013 6:33 PM
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There is no such thing as a trap game. There are well played games and poorly played games. Play well, every game.
Yoda out...
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:02 PM
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We'll be the better team, but we still need to show up. Deruyter took us from a 4-9 team to a 9-4 team with basically the same players. Why not Colorado?
Admittedly, I'm kind a glass half empty kind of guy when it comes to Bulldog football.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:05 PM
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hornet4life85 wrote: They did get a nice lil RB from San Diego's Helix High, Michael Adkins is actually a good back with real nice speed. He has nice size but depending on their need at the position he could probably see playing time. Just looked him up and the kid is a beast. 5'11 200 lb's at the age of 17. Definitely going to contribute some how this year. He also had offers from Harvard and Yale, what a stud. Colorado has a true sophomore named Christian Powell who is a beast and will be the starter, but he already has dealt with knee injuries and is a load at 6' 235 so maybe your boy can be the change of pace guy for them. Either way impressive young man.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:08 PM
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portlandog wrote: We'll be the better team, but we still need to show up. Deruyter took us from a 4-9 team to a 9-4 team with basically the same players. Why not Colorado?
Admittedly, I'm kind a glass half empty kind of guy when it comes to Bulldog football. That's what I am saying but for some reason we are the only ones who think Colorado has any chance at a turnaround season. And of course everyones excuse was that we lost Thomas and Smith early. Were those devastating injuries? Yes. Are the only team that had to deal with devastating injuries that year? No. And Im sorry but if team has the wheels fall off after losing a great SS and a freshman FS than something is wrong with the coaching. Let me ask you a question. Do you think this Colorado team has as much overall talent as the SJSU team that went 11-2 last year? And if not, darn close?
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:15 PM
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559notown wrote: Not with that attitude we won't. Thank god you're not the coach or we would lose every game. Look what CTD did in one year and your telling me coaching can only go so far with a lack of talent? CTD flip flopped our record in one year while only having time to implement 1/2 of both his offensive and defensive schemes. And if you don't think that there isn't any talent at Colorado than you are sadly mistaken. Did they go 1-11, yes. Did we beat the living sh*t out of them last year in 110 degree heat yea.
Colorado is a PAC 12 school that steals recruits from us all the time. I would venture to say their overall talent level isn't that far from ours if not equal. Personally I believe they quit on their coach last year. He had no business being a coach in such a competitive conference and it showed. I have no merit or proof about my previous statement but I saw lazy tackling, lazy route running and a coach that was over his head. His only previous coaching experience was as a TE coach at both the college and NFL levels. He wasn't ready nor will he ever be from what he displayed be a head coach again and is back where he belongs, coaching TE's for the KC Chief's.
Now I am not sure if you have heard copter but this guy Mike MacIntyre did the impossible and won 11 games at SJSU in just 3 years. Guess what he inherited a team that went 2-10 and in 3 years he flip flopped those number plus a bowl victory. All while at a place where the football team receives zero funding, has crappy fan support and I'm guessing when he took it over had far less talent than the current Colorado roster he is inheriting. Not to mention Colorado was one of the youngest teams in the nation that will be much improved with all those youngsters having 1 year under their belt. And by the way we had the luxury of playing them when their stud RB was banged up and he is only a sophomore. His success this year will be finding a QB that can fit his system. They currently have 5 QB's on the roster including two 3 star freshman that will fight to be the starter out the gate. Something tells me McIntyre wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't think he could turn around the sinking ship.
So yes, it is a trap game that I know CTD will not be overlooking as you seem to. I would be willing to wager that he gets them to 6 wins this year and a bowl birth....the most improved team that we face all year.
ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: Coaching can only take a team that utterly devoid of talent so far.
We won't drop 35 in one quarter on them with no effort. But we'll win without too much hassle. ITS BERTH!!! For the 2nd post now!!!
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:20 PM
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Colorado is a crappy team and has been for years. They may be a little better, but a little better is still crappy.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:21 PM
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New coaching my friend, how often does a team return 5 guys that started at least 10 games the previous year. We have seen what Norcross has done with guys that have little experience. And although they have sucked it up over the last few years, this is still Big12/PAC12 lineman we are talking about. They were a good run blocking team and would of had an all conference tail back in Powell had he not been hampered with injuries. And Webb is just not a good QB and he actually sacked 5th most in the PAC 12 last year. Not a great stat for the o-line but I'm guessing some of those can be attributed to him holding on to the ball too long. Everything starts with the O-line and MAC is inheriting abetter than average one IMO. arx162218 wrote: Their returning OL is nothing to write home about. So long as Jordan Webb is the starter, we'll win, and win easily. MacIntyre would literally have to scratch the entire offense and rewrite the entire playbook from the ground up. And even that can only do so much, as you can't even begin to compare Fresno State's turnaround to Colorado's potential for one.
Frankly put, their status as a BCS team mean next to nothing. Fresno State has more talent on both sides of the ball than Colorado. And that's including the OL.
And while you can imagine Colorado has nowhere else to go but up, Fresno State next year will install most of its offense and defense, rather than relying on only half of.
It won't matter that this game is in Boulder. FS will be the only one to beat itself, it won't be Colorado...
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:28 PM
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WTF is all this talk about Coach Mac? Hes at Colorado State. This thread is about the Buffa-lows.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 7:42 PM
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LOL.. Colorado and Colorado State each have a Coach Mac now. Thanks to San Joser.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 8:10 PM
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TheDogSnake wrote:
ITS BERTH!!! For the 2nd post now!!! I'm sorry it won't happen again
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Posted: 02/21/2013 8:17 PM
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He also carried a 4.0 gpa all during high school...he used to run youth track with Victor on the same team...he is a good kid, tho his high school coach didn't help him that much with his recruiting. He also runs the 100m, 200m 400m & 800m...and has placed at the Jr Olympics...I hope he gets an opportunity...but against I want our defense to shut him down 559notown wrote: hornet4life85 wrote: They did get a nice lil RB from San Diego's Helix High, Michael Adkins is actually a good back with real nice speed. He has nice size but depending on their need at the position he could probably see playing time. Just looked him up and the kid is a beast. 5'11 200 lb's at the age of 17. Definitely going to contribute some how this year. He also had offers from Harvard and Yale, what a stud.
Colorado has a true sophomore named Christian Powell who is a beast and will be the starter, but he already has dealt with knee injuries and is a load at 6' 235 so maybe your boy can be the change of pace guy for them. Either way impressive young man.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 8:59 PM
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They don't. You need to let go of the fact that they play in a BCS conference. Colorado's previous three coaches left them utterly devoid of talent. We could have traded coaching staffs with them last year and still stomped them. Seriously dude. I've been on their forums. Even their fans know this is a long rebuild for them. None of them expect any sort of success next year. Trust me on this one. 559notown wrote:
portlandog wrote: We'll be the better team, but we still need to show up. Deruyter took us from a 4-9 team to a 9-4 team with basically the same players. Why not Colorado?
Admittedly, I'm kind a glass half empty kind of guy when it comes to Bulldog football. That's what I am saying but for some reason we are the only ones who think Colorado has any chance at a turnaround season. And of course everyones excuse was that we lost Thomas and Smith early. Were those devastating injuries? Yes. Are the only team that had to deal with devastating injuries that year? No. And Im sorry but if team has the wheels fall off after losing a great SS and a freshman FS than something is wrong with the coaching. Let me ask you a question. Do you think this Colorado team has as much overall talent as the SJSU team that went 11-2 last year? And if not, darn close?
"Bulldog Born, Bulldog Bred, And I'll Be A Bulldog Till The Day I'm Dead"
RIP Jim Sweeney.
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Posted: 02/21/2013 9:21 PM
RE: Colorado a possible trap game
We,ll I guess it's a good thing none of them actually play ! I'm sure the kids who bust there arses all year long would think otherwise And I'm sure our guys are wise enough to not believe the hype anyone can be beat! --------------------------------------------- --- ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: They don't. You need to let go of the fact that they play in a BCS conference. Colorado's previous three coaches left them utterly devoid of talent. We could have traded coaching staffs with them last year and still stomped them. Seriously dude. I've been on their forums. Even their fans know this is a long rebuild for them. None of them expect any sort of success next year. Trust me on this one. 559notown wrote:
portlandog wrote: We'll be the better team, but we still need to show up. Deruyter took us from a 4-9 team to a 9-4 team with basically the same players. Why not Colorado?
Admittedly, I'm kind a glass half empty kind of guy when it comes to Bulldog football. That's what I am saying but for some reason we are the only ones who think Colorado has any chance at a turnaround season. And of course everyones excuse was that we lost Thomas and Smith early. Were those devastating injuries? Yes. Are the only team that had to deal with devastating injuries that year? No. And Im sorry but if team has the wheels fall off after losing a great SS and a freshman FS than something is wrong with the coaching. Let me ask you a question. Do you think this Colorado team has as much overall talent as the SJSU team that went 11-2 last year? And if not, darn close? ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 02/24/2013 6:59 AM
Re: Colorado a possible trap game
Just a little correction: Stephane Nembot did not play last year. But, just a matter of returning players doesn't necessarily guarantee success or even a marked improvement, especially if that unit was deplorable the year before. I would almost equate Colorado's talent predicament as parallel to Colorado State's when McElwain took over. Colorado may have higher rated players per scouting sites, but their performance on the field is sorely lacking, and the coaching needed to bring them up to speed would be even more than the level Fresno State saw with Norcross. Last year, the talk before our game with Colorado was whether a converted defensive lineman that wasn't playing was actually the best offensive lineman Colorado had in Nembot. If anything, you would see Cody Wichmann and Austin Wentworth both start for Colorado. Quite frankly, their OL is not going to improve enough to beat our front 7. The Big12/Pac12 type talent isn't such a big deal either, considering we have plenty of BCS-offered players on our roster as well and the past few seasons for Colorado haven't been great selling points for recruits. I see Donavon Lewis and Andy Jennings abusing Colorado's OL all game long. The pressure our front 7 can bring is going to knock around Webb, and that's if he even starts. They can't rely entirely on Christian Powell and their running game either. Otherwise, if they try to, it'll be an even uglier game. Colorado doesn't have the personnel to win an offensive shootout. 559notown wrote: New coaching my friend, how often does a team return 5 guys that started at least 10 games the previous year. We have seen what Norcross has done with guys that have little experience. And although they have sucked it up over the last few years, this is still Big12/PAC12 lineman we are talking about. They were a good run blocking team and would of had an all conference tail back in Powell had he not been hampered with injuries. And Webb is just not a good QB and he actually sacked 5th most in the PAC 12 last year. Not a great stat for the o-line but I'm guessing some of those can be attributed to him holding on to the ball too long. Everything starts with the O-line and MAC is inheriting abetter than average one IMO.
arx162218 wrote: Their returning OL is nothing to write home about. So long as Jordan Webb is the starter, we'll win, and win easily. MacIntyre would literally have to scratch the entire offense and rewrite the entire playbook from the ground up. And even that can only do so much, as you can't even begin to compare Fresno State's turnaround to Colorado's potential for one.
Frankly put, their status as a BCS team mean next to nothing. Fresno State has more talent on both sides of the ball than Colorado. And that's including the OL.
And while you can imagine Colorado has nowhere else to go but up, Fresno State next year will install most of its offense and defense, rather than relying on only half of.
It won't matter that this game is in Boulder. FS will be the only one to beat itself, it won't be Colorado...

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Posted: 02/24/2013 10:51 AM
Re: Colorado a possible trap game
I dont think CTD will let any BCS team be a trap game, more like a statement! with that being said I think the reason we beat the buffs so bad last year was, we jumped on them early and they fell apart not knowing how to respond. Better coaching should fix that. This should be a much closer game.
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