By their former coach. 

http://www.denverpost.com/cu/c...itment-from-san

Ruthless....Same thing happened to USU.

ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: Ruthless....Same thing happened to USU.

They also lost this guy 

http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?...amp;nid=6635981

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

SJSU should have never been added to the MWC.

youre absolutely right......been saying this forever,,,,.....we cant go big time with san josers in the same league.

Damn, lets give it some time here people. Coach MAC did one hell of a job turning it around and they beat us the last time we lined up against them. If I'm not mistaken we have lost a few good recruits as well, not to mention one of our biggest recruiting tools in Tim McD..... They are coming off a top 25 season so lets let the chips fall as they may b4 declaring them a door mat like previous years.... Pretty sure they have a great QB coming back who could make it back to back top 25 teams....

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

559notown wrote: Damn, lets give it some time here people. Coach MAC did one hell of a job turning it around and they beat us the last time we lined up against them. If I'm not mistaken we have lost a few good recruits as well, not to mention one of our biggest recruiting tools in Tim McD..... They are coming off a top 25 season so lets let the chips fall as they may b4 declaring them a door mat like previous years.... Pretty sure they have a great QB coming back who could make it back to back top 25 teams....

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

And to hear some of their fans talk, their QB AND WRs are superior to those of Fresno State.
Note: The Spartan's QB, David Fales, was rated higher than Carr in the final NCAA QB ratings.

I scouted Severson and scrimmaged against Olugbode two years in a row(Valley Christian is in our playoff bracket) and let me tell you, I'm glad both of those guys aren't going to be in our conference.  Severson is an absolute animal, and Olugbode is one in the long line of that family to be a force as well.  

They won't be playing against us this year when we go to Boulder, so all good.

If you had the chance to go to Colorado rather than SJSU, wouldn't you do it too? lol

DoginOK wrote: If you had the chance to go to Colorado rather than SJSU, wouldn't you do it too? lol

Boulder is the San Luis Obispo of Colorado.  Nice place to got to school but no jobs after school.  As far as football goes the two programs about a push.  CU is just bad football and Hoser is bad most years.

LuDog70 wrote:

DoginOK wrote: If you had the chance to go to Colorado rather than SJSU, wouldn't you do it too? lol

Boulder is the San Luis Obispo of Colorado.  Nice place to got to school but no jobs after school.  As far as football goes the two programs about a push.  CU is just bad football and Hoser is bad most years.

Which is why the Bay Area is overrun with CU grads.....same dumb a$$ liberal culture as Boulder but with jobs.

559notown wrote: Damn, lets give it some time here people. Coach MAC did one hell of a job turning it around and they beat us the last time we lined up against them. If I'm not mistaken we have lost a few good recruits as well, not to mention one of our biggest recruiting tools in Tim McD..... They are coming off a top 25 season so lets let the chips fall as they may b4 declaring them a door mat like previous years.... Pretty sure they have a great QB coming back who could make it back to back top 25 teams....

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

+1

fightdogs wrote: youre absolutely right......been saying this forever,,,,.....we cant go big time with san josers in the same league.

Now we are sounding like SUDS with the front range schools holding them back. Josers didn't seem to crush Boise's chances, and it is an easy drive to go catch a game. Plenty of leg room and extra seating too ;).

DogFan8 wrote:

559notown wrote: Damn, lets give it some time here people. Coach MAC did one hell of a job turning it around and they beat us the last time we lined up against them. If I'm not mistaken we have lost a few good recruits as well, not to mention one of our biggest recruiting tools in Tim McD..... They are coming off a top 25 season so lets let the chips fall as they may b4 declaring them a door mat like previous years.... Pretty sure they have a great QB coming back who could make it back to back top 25 teams....

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

And to hear some of their fans talk, their QB AND WRs are superior to those of Fresno State.
Note: The Spartan's QB, David Fales, was rated higher than Carr in the final NCAA QB ratings.

The offense SJSU uses is more condusive to a higher QB rating.  More mid-range throws.  Ours utilizes a lot of quick bubble screens that often go under 10 yards, sinking Carr's YPA.

And none of their WRs hold a candle to Davante Adams.

Actually they do have a couple WR's that would hold a candle

SCANDERSON wrote: Actually they do have a couple WR's that would hold a candle

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote:

SCANDERSON wrote: Actually they do have a couple WR's that would hold a candle

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Sorry but sounds more like Crystal Meth!

Next year san jose state will suck eggs once again

Lol... We shall see wont we..

DogFan8 wrote:

559notown wrote: Damn, lets give it some time here people. Coach MAC did one hell of a job turning it around and they beat us the last time we lined up against them. If I'm not mistaken we have lost a few good recruits as well, not to mention one of our biggest recruiting tools in Tim McD..... They are coming off a top 25 season so lets let the chips fall as they may b4 declaring them a door mat like previous years.... Pretty sure they have a great QB coming back who could make it back to back top 25 teams....

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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--- FSUMay08 wrote:

If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

And to hear some of their fans talk, their QB AND WRs are superior to those of Fresno State.
Note: The Spartan's QB, David Fales, was rated higher than Carr in the final NCAA QB ratings.

He should be higher rated than Carr because he was better than Carr. Carr has next season to prove otherwise.

Wow... is this Asstec Mesa or the Barkboard? This thread has "DOUCHE" written all over it. Let's see how things play out in 2013 before we start throwing stones. We are returning most of the same key talent that got us to 11 wins and an AP post-season top-21. What did your guys do in 2012? I watched that crap bowl game of yours, by the way. San Joser would have made your kids look silly.

HAHAHA 2013 is gonna be GOOOD!!!!! 

babydaddyschlegel12 wrote: Next year san jose state will suck eggs once again

Why do you say that?

PS - As I recall, Fresno had a small 2-star class in 2012 after DeRuyter came in. What was it... 14-15 signees? Perhaps you didn't have more scholarships to give, or perhaps your HC held some schollies back for his first full recruiting effort in 2013. Either way, your team showed improvement last year after a 4-9 season that included a loss at home to a five-win San Jose team in 2011. Point is, things sure weren't looking good for Fresno this time last year, and yet you still had an okay year.

Unlike your 2012 team, though, ours is coming off 11 wins and a top-25 ranking. With that in mind, how much do Scout recruitment stats two weeks before nat'l signing day tell us about upcoming on-field performance? By your logic, Fresno should have gone backward last year, given DeRuyter's truncated recruiting effort in 2012.

Also, how much do any of you really know about Ron Caragher? Unlike DeRuyter during his first season at Fresno, Caragher has previous head coaching experience. Moreover, we are returning most of our key talent from a top-25 squad, and Mac had an excellent recruiting class in 2012 (much better than your 2012 class). In short, our cupboard is by NO MEANS bare, and we are all-around in much better shape heading into the 2013 season than Fresno was at this time last year.

Man... some of you guys are sounding awfully cocky for a school that was unranked in 2012 and got embarrassed in its bowl game against a so-so SMU team.

sparticulous wrote: PS - As I recall, Fresno had a small 2-star class in 2012 after DeRuyter came in. What was it... 14-15 signees? Perhaps you didn't have more scholarships to give, or perhaps your HC held some schollies back for his first full recruiting effort in 2013. Either way, your team showed improvement last year after a 4-9 season that included a loss at home to a five-win San Jose team in 2011. Point is, things sure weren't looking good for Fresno this time last year, and yet you still had an okay year.

Unlike your 2012 team, though, ours is coming off 11 wins and a top-25 ranking. With that in mind, how much do Scout recruitment stats two weeks before nat'l signing day tell us about upcoming on-field performance? By your logic, Fresno should have gone backward last year, given DeRuyter's truncated recruiting effort in 2012.

Also, how much do any of you really know about Ron Caragher? Unlike DeRuyter during his first season at Fresno, Caragher has previous head coaching experience. Moreover, we are returning most of our key talent from a top-25 squad, and Mac had an excellent recruiting class in 2012 (much better than your 2012 class). In short, our cupboard is by NO MEANS bare, and we are all-around in much better shape heading into the 2013 season than Fresno was at this time last year.

Man... some of you guys are sounding awfully cocky for a school that was unranked in 2012 and got embarrassed in its bowl game against a so-so SMU team.

You're sounding kind of pissy for a guy that came to a homer board on his own uninvited.

Actually, although I am a huge Bulldog fan, his post is quite restrained and logical.
He may turn out to be wrong but it certainly is a well thought out post.

sparticulous wrote: PS - As I recall, Fresno had a small 2-star class in 2012 after DeRuyter came in. What was it... 14-15 signees? Perhaps you didn't have more scholarships to give, or perhaps your HC held some schollies back for his first full recruiting effort in 2013. Either way, your team showed improvement last year after a 4-9 season that included a loss at home to a five-win San Jose team in 2011. Point is, things sure weren't looking good for Fresno this time last year, and yet you still had an okay year.

Unlike your 2012 team, though, ours is coming off 11 wins and a top-25 ranking. With that in mind, how much do Scout recruitment stats two weeks before nat'l signing day tell us about upcoming on-field performance? By your logic, Fresno should have gone backward last year, given DeRuyter's truncated recruiting effort in 2012.

Also, how much do any of you really know about Ron Caragher? Unlike DeRuyter during his first season at Fresno, Caragher has previous head coaching experience. Moreover, we are returning most of our key talent from a top-25 squad, and Mac had an excellent recruiting class in 2012 (much better than your 2012 class). In short, our cupboard is by NO MEANS bare, and we are all-around in much better shape heading into the 2013 season than Fresno was at this time last year.

Man... some of you guys are sounding awfully cocky for a school that was unranked in 2012 and got embarrassed in its bowl game against a so-so SMU team.

I hope SJS is absolutely fabulous next season and Fresno State is better. It would be refreshing not having SJS dragging down everyone else's SOS who are trying to get somewhere. I am rooting for SJS to be great so when Fresno defeats SJS it means something. Go Spartans how ever it is you have to go.

mag24 wrote: Actually, although I am a huge Bulldog fan, his post is quite restrained and logical.
He may turn out to be wrong but it certainly is a well thought out post.

Agree!  +1

Next year, SJS vs. FSU at Bulldog Stadium, with 42,000 fans screaming their brains out. >>>> Everyone wins!

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PS - As I recall, Fresno had a small 2-star class in 2012 after DeRuyter came in. What was it... 14-15 signees? Perhaps you didn't have more scholarships to give, or perhaps your HC held some schollies back for his first full recruiting effort in 2013. Either way, your team showed improvement last year after a 4-9 season that included a loss at home to a five-win San Jose team in 2011. Point is, things sure weren't looking good for Fresno this time last year, and yet you still had an okay year.

Unlike your 2012 team, though, ours is coming off 11 wins and a top-25 ranking. With that in mind, how much do Scout recruitment stats two weeks before nat'l signing day tell us about upcoming on-field performance? By your logic, Fresno should have gone backward last year, given DeRuyter's truncated recruiting effort in 2012.

Also, how much do any of you really know about Ron Caragher? Unlike DeRuyter during his first season at Fresno, Caragher has previous head coaching experience. Moreover, we are returning most of our key talent from a top-25 squad, and Mac had an excellent recruiting class in 2012 (much better than your 2012 class). In short, our cupboard is by NO MEANS bare, and we are all-around in much better shape heading into the 2013 season than Fresno was at this time last year.

Man... some of you guys are sounding awfully cocky for a school that was unranked in 2012 and got embarrassed in its bowl game against a so-so SMU team.

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The big difference between Hoser and Fresno is the overall health of the program. Facilities, money, amenities, talent level, and consistency. Fresno won the MWC last year, a conference SJSU would have had 2/3 losses in last year. SJSUCKS wouldn't have sniffed top-25 votes in the MW. SJSU has a good season once in a decade; Fresno has a bad season once in a decade. It took the worst season in Fresno State history to end your 24 game losing streak in Fresno. Losing a head coach is devastating to a program with a foundation of toothpicks.

DogFan8 wrote:

559notown wrote: Damn, lets give it some time here people. Coach MAC did one hell of a job turning it around and they beat us the last time we lined up against them. If I'm not mistaken we have lost a few good recruits as well, not to mention one of our biggest recruiting tools in Tim McD..... They are coming off a top 25 season so lets let the chips fall as they may b4 declaring them a door mat like previous years.... Pretty sure they have a great QB coming back who could make it back to back top 25 teams....

Bulld0g8588 wrote:

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If Pac 12 power Colorado is stealing from San Jose State it should make for another easy victory.

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Wasn't going to be tough anyways since they lost their coach. It's unfortunate for the conference but SJSU is quickly returning to a bottom feeder. It was a desperate addition by the MWC and unnecessary now that Boise and SDSU have came back. I wouldn't be surprised if they're eventually dropped.

And to hear some of their fans talk, their QB AND WRs are superior to those of Fresno State.
Note: The Spartan's QB, David Fales, was rated higher than Carr in the final NCAA QB ratings.

As much as I love Carr and am very glad he is our QB, there is a ton of room for improvement... I mean takeaway our Drastic change in DEFENSE and how many wins do you think we get last year? I am really thinking and hoping CARR puts it all together and gets some protection and eventually turns himself into a 1st round pick. As of right now I would say he is a second day pick. Like I said his O-Line rarely does him favors but he has a ton of things to improve upon. One of those things that he doesn't need any work on is leadership and that is why I wouldn't trade him for anyone next year(besides Johnny Football).

Congrats bulldog8588.. You get the stupid post of the day award.. Who would they have lost to in the mwc? I would love to hear? The WAC was rated higher than the MWC last year.. We beat two MWC teams, including one of the co champs.. If USU and Sjsu were in the MWC this last season, they would have met for the CCG.. SJSU beat SDSU, Navy, La Tech, BYU, Bowling Green.. Please enlighten me with who they would have lost to???

SCANDERSON wrote: Congrats bulldog8588.. You get the stupid post of the day award.. Who would they have lost to in the mwc? I would love to hear? The WAC was rated higher than the MWC last year.. We beat two MWC teams, including one of the co champs.. If USU and Sjsu were in the MWC this last season, they would have met for the CCG.. SJSU beat SDSU, Navy, La Tech, BYU, Bowling Green.. Please enlighten me with who they would have lost to???

Boise, and probably us... provided you played us after the SDSU game.

retrofade wrote:

SCANDERSON wrote: Congrats bulldog8588.. You get the stupid post of the day award.. Who would they have lost to in the mwc? I would love to hear? The WAC was rated higher than the MWC last year.. We beat two MWC teams, including one of the co champs.. If USU and Sjsu were in the MWC this last season, they would have met for the CCG.. SJSU beat SDSU, Navy, La Tech, BYU, Bowling Green.. Please enlighten me with who they would have lost to???

Boise, and probably us... provided you played us after the SDSU game.

+1

mag24 wrote: Actually, although I am a huge Bulldog fan, his post is quite restrained and logical.
He may turn out to be wrong but it certainly is a well thought out post.

His post is dripping with sarcasm and an outsider's observations.  We'll settle up with SJSU this coming season.  Just like we have for all but a few of the past 25 seasons. 

I could pick apart his post but not going to waste the time.

tommypm1 wrote:

fightdogs wrote: youre absolutely right......been saying this forever,,,,.....we cant go big time with san josers in the same league.

Now we are sounding like SUDS with the front range schools holding them back. Josers didn't seem to crush Boise's chances, and it is an easy drive to go catch a game. Plenty of leg room and extra seating too ;).

Why would you want to go there? It's the most pathetic excuse for a college atmosphere I've ever experienced. I wouldn't pay $5 to see it again. You park in 2 feet of mud, virtually zero tailgaiting (with the exception of a couple dozen students taking beer bongs and smoking weed), and you enter a nearly empty stadium with the electricity output of a hagfish. The only sign of life in that stadium came from the Fresno State fans.

Damn, you are truly an idiot. First.. SJSU would have beat Fresno this past year.. Maybe by a couple touchdowns.. Look what SMU did.. Boise would of been a great game.. But... I really don't think Boise would have won. You don't know wtf your talking about..

SCANDERSON wrote: Damn, you are truly an idiot. First.. SJSU would have beat Fresno this past year.. Maybe by a couple touchdowns.. Look what SMU did.. Boise would of been a great game.. But... I really don't think Boise would have won. You don't know wtf your talking about..

...and you do?

SCANDERSON wrote: Damn, you are truly an idiot. First.. SJSU would have beat Fresno this past year.. Maybe by a couple touchdowns.. Look what SMU did.. Boise would of been a great game.. But... I really don't think Boise would have won. You don't know wtf your talking about..

Keep holding on to your hypothetical situations because it's all you'll have to grasp on during the poundings SJSU will be taking for the foreseeable future.