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Posted: 01/25/2013 11:16 AM
Greenlee now a soft verbal?
That would be a huge loss for our class if he reneges on his commitment. I hope the coaches are all over him right now. He has a visit to an SEC school coming this weekend, and hopefully he finds nothing too exciting.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 11:17 AM
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Posted: 01/25/2013 11:50 AM
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I hope he realizes that Miss St. already has a commit from four star QB Cord Sandberg who had multiple offers from a lot of big name schools. Also, he's a dual threat QB and led his team to a state title as a junior.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:11 PM
RE: Greenlee now a soft verbal?
Yeah that would suck but I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt commit.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:17 PM
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Burrell is good himself and should have three years of eligibility. He brings mobility greenlee doesn't.
It would be very nice to have Greenlee to compete with him though. We'll see how things shake out.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:33 PM
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Would it be weird for fans to hit him on twitter to show support?
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:34 PM
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jbbulldog wrote: Would it be weird for fans to hit him on twitter to show support? No, it'd be par for the course for a lot of recruits. I doubt it makes a difference.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:45 PM
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ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote:
jbbulldog wrote: Would it be weird for fans to hit him on twitter to show support? No, it'd be par for the course for a lot of recruits. I doubt it makes a difference. I frankly a bit stocker like... I trust that he'll do what is best for him and that may or may not including Fresno State. Bulldog Born... Bulldog Bred... I'm goin to be a Bulldog till the day I'm dead! - Jim Sweeney.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:47 PM
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FresnoStateBulldogFan wrote:
ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote:
jbbulldog wrote: Would it be weird for fans to hit him on twitter to show support? No, it'd be par for the course for a lot of recruits. I doubt it makes a difference. I frankly a bit stocker like... I trust that he'll do what is best for him and that may or may not including Fresno State. who? ROFL?  |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:53 PM
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On a positive note Miss St. has not yet offered, but he is visiting this weekend. So many recruits backing out on original commitments I guess nobody's word is bond.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 12:55 PM
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house32 wrote: On a positive note Miss St. has not yet offered, but he is visiting this weekend. So many recruits backing out on original commitments I guess nobody's word is bond. No, they've offered.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 1:01 PM
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Well at least he is still a verbal even though it is soft. I hope he doesn't like Southern Hospitality Lol.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 1:09 PM
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Why not take free trip and check it out? If I was a recruits I'd take as many trips as they allow. It gives you the full scope of what's out there.
Of course I hope him going there this weekend just makes him realize how much he wants to be here.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 2:03 PM
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Why not take free trip and check it out? If I was a recruits I'd take as many trips as they allow. It gives you the full scope of what's out there.
Of course I hope him going there this weekend just makes him realize how much he wants to be here.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 2:50 PM
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A number of programs frown on recruits who trip after making a commitment. If the program has someone else as a back-up, the tripping recruit many find himself without a home or at least the home he wanted. This happens to a number of recruits every year.
When someone who has committed and then goes wandering around, it is not always he who made the decision as to why he doesn't end-up where he thought he had it in the bag. He may have thought he could have his cake and eat it too, but it works both ways as to who drove the bus.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 2:52 PM
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PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: Why not take free trip and check it out? If I was a recruits I'd take as many trips as they allow. It gives you the full scope of what's out there.
Of course I hope him going there this weekend just makes him realize how much he wants to be here. That's what I am thinking on the 23rd he sent twitter message to Damari Scott... S/O to @dsco_1 for committing to Fresno. Big pick up at WR Show him love #RedWave |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 3:19 PM
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Fangdog wrote: A number of programs frown on recruits who trip after making a commitment. If the program has someone else as a back-up, the tripping recruit many find himself without a home or at least the home he wanted. This happens to a number of recruits every year.
When someone who has committed and then goes wandering around, it is not always he who made the decision as to why he doesn't end-up where he thought he had it in the bag. He may have thought he could have his cake and eat it too, but it works both ways as to who drove the bus. That's all fine and dandy, but Greenlee is arguably Fresno's biggest recruit and they probably don't have another equally talented QB in the pipeline just in case. While Burrell is a nice get and adds some depth, the staff is probably counting on Greenlee being the anchor of this class. In this case, it's Greenlee probably being wowed by the sec offer and feels he owes it to himself to take a look and make the best decision for himself.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 4:22 PM
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Does Burrell even throw the ball? Not eye-popping numbers from the stats I've seen.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 4:35 PM
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CaliforniaStateBulldogs wrote: Does Burrell even throw the ball? Not eye-popping numbers from the stats I've seen. Watch his video, he's got the goods. |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 4:59 PM
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"Zach Greenlee - QB, Stockton, CA - A late addition like Williams to the weekend visit list, Greenlee is an Under Armor All-American participant that MSU is making a large push late to land. Greenlee, a Fresno State commit, was offered a scholarship last night, and will be in Starkville this weekend. With less than two weeks left until NSD, expect Mullen and company to do their best to land him or Williams soon, maybe even this weekend. It will be interesting to see how he likes it. Although a west coast kid, it will be interesting to see if playing in a bigger conference will have any draw for Greenlee. He stands at 6-2 and weighs in at 185." http://www.forwhomthecowbellto...january-26-2013 |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 5:02 PM
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qwertsod wrote:
Fangdog wrote: A number of programs frown on recruits who trip after making a commitment. If the program has someone else as a back-up, the tripping recruit many find himself without a home or at least the home he wanted. This happens to a number of recruits every year.
When someone who has committed and then goes wandering around, it is not always he who made the decision as to why he doesn't end-up where he thought he had it in the bag. He may have thought he could have his cake and eat it too, but it works both ways as to who drove the bus. That's all fine and dandy, but Greenlee is arguably Fresno's biggest recruit and they probably don't have another equally talented QB in the pipeline just in case. While Burrell is a nice get and adds some depth, the staff is probably counting on Greenlee being the anchor of this class.
In this case, it's Greenlee probably being wowed by the sec offer and feels he owes it to himself to take a look and make the best decision for himself. Good for Greenlee |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 5:16 PM
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Greenlee may be a little upset that Fresno went after Burrell, so he wants to see how hard Fresno will come after him.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 5:22 PM
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srodrig5 wrote: Greenlee may be a little upset that Fresno went after Burrell, so he wants to see how hard Fresno will come after him. And MSU may just be looking to fill in some depth at QB... He wasn't and still isn't their top QB recruit. Greenlee should keep that in mind. Restore pride in Bulldog Defense!
Last edited 01/25/2013 5:24 PM by LuDog70
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Posted: 01/25/2013 5:22 PM
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MSU has Cord Sandburg (4-star QB) committed, and has been after & offered: Joshua Dobbs (4-star QB). MSU move to Greenlee might be a last minute resort to establish their backup slot and not their air-apparent.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 6:45 PM
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Just look at what has happened to Kody Kessler at USC. What a huge waste of talent.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 6:57 PM
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footballed101 wrote: Just look at what has happened to Kody Kessler at USC. What a huge waste of talent. Terrible example. How can you say that Kessler, who is 2/2 for 9 yards in his career, will only be a redshirt sophomore next year, and was stuck behind a four year starter in Barkley has been a waste of talent? Ridiculous. He's got just as good of a shot to start next year as Wittek and Browne. Let it play out.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 10:03 PM
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qwertsod wrote:
footballed101 wrote: Just look at what has happened to Kody Kessler at USC. What a huge waste of talent. Terrible example. How can you say that Kessler, who is 2/2 for 9 yards in his career, will only be a redshirt sophomore next year, and was stuck behind a four year starter in Barkley has been a waste of talent? Ridiculous.
He's got just as good of a shot to start next year as Wittek and Browne. Let it play out. Why is your speculation about Cody's future any more valid than footballed? So far, it appears Cody will be stuck behind yet another Orange County Golden Boy. Restore pride in Bulldog Defense! |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 11:56 PM
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Cody should transfer..
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Posted: 01/26/2013 6:30 AM
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BC uses a run-heavy offense. Burrell is good, but he had two stud RBs behind him that he was handing off to 12-20 times each per game. He also has excellent chemistry with Mike Dunn the all-state Juco TE.
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Posted: 01/26/2013 6:49 AM
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Until there's a wet ink signature on a LOI any commitment by any prospective player is soft.
Last edited 01/26/2013 6:51 AM by H2OPoloDan
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Posted: 01/26/2013 7:38 AM
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H2OPoloDan wrote: Until there's a wet ink signature on a LOI any commitment by any prospective player is soft. This is true. These are 17-18 year-old's having to make the most important decision in their lives so far. It is tough stuff being a recruiter. Also, it is why some programs have a rule: If you go tripping after your commitment, don't expect to have your scholarship protected. LOI day is when it is final. I would like to see it moved-up sooner, so the recruiting process wouldn't drag-on so long. I do like the JUCO deal for certain recruits. They are older, have played better competition and have had more game-time experience. They are more proven and there is a greater efficiency when it comes to wasting a scholarship and time on a high school recruit who doesn't pan-out. Most recruits end-up with just 2-years productive playing-time which is the same as a JUCO. The better talented who play as freshman and sophomores are usually determined more easily and would go straight to the 4-year college. IMO, about a 25-30% JUCO mix is about right, especially for non-AQ's. |
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Posted: 01/26/2013 8:39 AM
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I'm a big supporter of JUCOs. Until Hill came to town and emphasized FS players moving on to the pros, most NFL players who came out of Fresno came out of Fresno City and Reedley, not State. The JC coaches who I knew groomed their players to transfer to 4-year institutions if they wanted to.
Frankly, I view the claims that it takes multi years to learn a program's playbook to be nonsense. If a kid hasn't learned it by the end of his first year on the team he probably shouldn't be in college to begin with.
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Posted: 01/26/2013 9:50 AM
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H2OPoloDan wrote: I'm a big supporter of JUCOs. Until Hill came to town and emphasized FS players moving on to the pros, most NFL players who came out of Fresno came out of Fresno City and Reedley, not State. The JC coaches who I knew groomed their players to transfer to 4-year institutions if they wanted to.
Frankly, I view the claims that it takes multi years to learn a program's playbook to be nonsense. If a kid hasn't learned it by the end of his first year on the team he probably shouldn't be in college to begin with. Totally agree It is amazing the BS one gets in the interest of an alibi. |
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Posted: 01/26/2013 10:53 AM
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Reading the MSU boards they think they have a great chance changing his mind...Going off of comments from his HS coach...Appears their four star QB commit is considering Baseball
They have also brought in the So. Miss QB committ and made him an offer as well
Last edited 01/26/2013 11:50 AM by kaigerugby
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Posted: 01/26/2013 11:50 AM
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o no :/
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Posted: 01/26/2013 12:04 PM
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we should hit Greenlee on twitter. He is just going to lose in Mississippi. I been there too, isn't much out there. How many nfl qbs are from there.. There offense is run based which makes no sense
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Posted: 01/26/2013 12:07 PM
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kaigerugby wrote: Reading the MSU boards they think they have a great chance changing his mind...Going off of comments from his HS coach...Appears their four star QB commit is considering Baseball
They have also brought in the So. Miss QB committ and made him an offer as well It should be obvious to Zack that he's merely one potential back up plan if they've offered that So. Miss commit. Enjoy the food and thank them for the trip, but you should be at Fresno State; the school that actually sends QBs to the NFL. |
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Posted: 01/26/2013 12:14 PM
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Posted: 01/26/2013 12:26 PM
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College-Football Teams Whose QBs Made Most NFL Starts - The Wall Street Journal - WSJ.com MSU is number 59 with 19 starts from Joe Reed, if FSU was included they would be in the mid 20's with 206 starts ,Carr,Dilfer,Volek and Sweeney
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Posted: 01/26/2013 12:31 PM
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jbbulldog wrote: we should hit Greenlee on twitter. He is just going to lose in Mississippi. I been there too, isn't much out there. How many nfl qbs are from there.. There offense is run based which makes no sense Leave the kid alone. I think he's making a mistake by even taking the trip but that's his mistake to make. We will be fine with or without Greenlee. One thing's for certain, if he was offered it's a late offer which means he wasn't their first or even second choice. At this stage Greenlee looks like insurance against MSU's #1 or #2 bailing. Frankly, I'm liking this Burrell kid more and more every day. Restore pride in Bulldog Defense! |
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