CoachFord wrote: At this point it's pretty clear that the MWC sucked this season. It did little to get the Bulldogs ready for SMU.

While I didn't agree with the insane score predictions before the game and thought it would be a tough game, I never expected such a blowout. The offense just wasn't good enough to compete with that defense. Unfortunately, I think everyone including myself believed otherwise before the game. But if you look back, since Boise the 'Dogs have been playing against absolutely awful defenses. Nevada's joke of a front seven, AFA's JC level defensive backfield, and so on. Like Oregon, Tulsa, and Boise, the offense just couldn't compete. 

Fresno, San Diego, and Nevada were outscored in the 4th quarter of their bowl games 55 to 6. Just a complete wearing down and destruction of those three teams.

It's kind of changed my mind about the BE deal. They have to go to wherever the best competition they can find will be. 

Ford

CoachFord wrote: At this point it's pretty clear that the MWC sucked this season. It did little to get the Bulldogs ready for SMU.

While I didn't agree with the insane score predictions before the game and thought it would be a tough game, I never expected such a blowout. The offense just wasn't good enough to compete with that defense. Unfortunately, I think everyone including myself believed otherwise before the game. But if you look back, since Boise the 'Dogs have been playing against absolutely awful defenses. Nevada's joke of a front seven, AFA's JC level defensive backfield, and so on. Like Oregon, Tulsa, and Boise, the offense just couldn't compete. 

Fresno, San Diego, and Nevada were outscored in the 4th quarter of their bowl games 55 to 6. Just a complete wearing down and destruction of those three teams.

It's kind of changed my mind about the BE deal. They have to go to wherever the best competition they can find will be. 

Ford

ZK686 wrote: I agree somewhat Ford.


But, at the same time, it seems as if that Fresno State always gets up for the big boy games, but never for the smaller games.


As previously mentioned, we're 0-6 against non-BCS teams in bowls, yet 4-1 against BCS teams during the same time period.


And I would bet all those BCS teams we beat in bowls were better than the non-BCS teams we lost too in bowls...



Makes you just wonder WTF is going on?????

jimsgig wrote: Liberal thinking, Modesto? This is football. that was dumb.

ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote:

jimsgig wrote: Liberal thinking, Modesto? This is football. that was dumb.

Diner arguments spilling over into the Bark board, methinks....

Bulldog Ray wrote: We need to blow this crap conference!

Bulldog Ray wrote: We need to blow this crap conference!

you know that saying about even a broken clock is right twice a day? It was bound to happen sooner or later.

ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote:

ZK686 wrote: I agree somewhat Ford.


But, at the same time, it seems as if that Fresno State always gets up for the big boy games, but never for the smaller games.


As previously mentioned, we're 0-6 against non-BCS teams in bowls, yet 4-1 against BCS teams during the same time period.


And I would bet all those BCS teams we beat in bowls were better than the non-BCS teams we lost too in bowls...



Makes you just wonder WTF is going on?????

WTF is going on? Are you that puzzled?

SMU came to play a bowl game.  We were on vacation.

That simple.

CoachFord wrote: At this point it's pretty clear that the MWC sucked this season. It did little to get the Bulldogs ready for SMU.

While I didn't agree with the insane score predictions before the game and thought it would be a tough game, I never expected such a blowout. The offense just wasn't good enough to compete with that defense. Unfortunately, I think everyone including myself believed otherwise before the game. But if you look back, since Boise the 'Dogs have been playing against absolutely awful defenses. Nevada's joke of a front seven, AFA's JC level defensive backfield, and so on. Like Oregon, Tulsa, and Boise, the offense just couldn't compete. 

Fresno, San Diego, and Nevada were outscored in the 4th quarter of their bowl games 55 to 6. Just a complete wearing down and destruction of those three teams.

It's kind of changed my mind about the BE deal. They have to go to wherever the best competition they can find will be. 

Ford

DaRealFoKuZ wrote: Thats pretty stupid if you ask me

modestobulldog wrote:

I didn't see anything in Ford's post...

LuDog70 wrote:

Bulldog Ray wrote: We need to blow this crap conference!

The MWC Team didn't play last Monday, the Bulldogs did.  And we stunk up the place. 

CoachFord wrote:

modestobulldog wrote:

I didn't see anything in Ford's post...

So since you didn't see what I was saying, you simply made up stuff that I didn't say. You also ignored the very first word in the thread title--"partially."

There's a lot of reasons for the loss, and one of them was not being challenged on the field for several weeks.

Ford

I saw the first word, I think partial blame is similar to saying partially pregnant.  With all due respect, I know what you were saying.  Possibly blame is not the best word.  When we beat Virginia and UCLA in bowl games, did the respective conferences not challenge them enough to face the Bulldogs?

jimsgig wrote: The MWC may have sucked but the Bulldogs were not ready to play in my opinion.

Angularvelocity wrote: I disagree with Ford.

Boise State capped off another 11+ win season in a great game vs. Washington, winning on theor last drive and sealing it with a pick.

Nevada dominated Arizona for 59 minutes (breaking all kinds of NCAA, MWC, NM bowl and  all-timebowl game records) and lost in a freakish turn of events in the last minute against the #5 offensive team in the nation.

San Diego was beatin' soundly by BYU on the second half, when playing with their second QB finally caught up to them.

Fresno State played their worse game of the year at the wrong time.  They just didn't look anything like they looked coming down the stretch in the conference.

None of the games (bowls) or turn of events were related to each other.  The MWC was a good conference this year.  Three very representative champions and 2 other very competitive teams.  To say it all sucked in hind-sight is ridiculous and reduces the Dogs Championship to crap, which no one was saying up till 5:00 Monday night.  

The Dogs won the MWC title their first in 13 years, do we really have to demean their effort  (Ford) over one game.

Question for Ford...had the Bulldogs comeback and won 44-43, would the conference had been that much better.  NO!!!!!

modestobulldog wrote:

CoachFord wrote:

modestobulldog wrote:

I didn't see anything in Ford's post...

So since you didn't see what I was saying, you simply made up stuff that I didn't say. You also ignored the very first word in the thread title--"partially."

There's a lot of reasons for the loss, and one of them was not being challenged on the field for several weeks.

Ford

I saw the first word, I think partial blame is similar to saying partially pregnant.  With all due respect, I know what you were saying.  Possibly blame is not the best word.  When we beat Virginia and UCLA in bowl games, did the respective conferences not challenge them enough to face the Bulldogs?

It did early. However, the '04 was a more powerful offensive unit than this year's team. They moved the ball and scored in the two first games at Washington and Kansas State. The last five games going into the bowl saw them average 56 ppg. They had quality players at all the positions--including TE and FB. Not to mention perhaps the best O-linman in the school history in Mankins. The only place that this year's offense was better than the '04 team was at QB--though Pinegar was still a solid college QB who threw for over 2,000 yards that year. 

All that even though they lost their best offensive player in Dwayne Wright late in the second game.

Ford

Angularvelocity wrote: I disagree with Ford.

Boise State capped off another 11+ win season in a great game vs. Washington, winning on theor last drive and sealing it with a pick.

Nevada dominated Arizona for 59 minutes (breaking all kinds of NCAA, MWC, NM bowl and  all-timebowl game records) and lost in a freakish turn of events in the last minute against the #5 offensive team in the nation.

San Diego was beatin' soundly by BYU on the second half, when playing with their second QB finally caught up to them.

Fresno State played their worse game of the year at the wrong time.  They just didn't look anything like they looked coming down the stretch in the conference.

None of the games (bowls) or turn of events were related to each other.  The MWC was a good conference this year.  Three very representative champions and 2 other very competitive teams.  To say it all sucked in hind-sight is ridiculous and reduces the Dogs Championship to crap, which no one was saying up till 5:00 Monday night.  

The Dogs won the MWC title their first in 13 years, do we really have to demean their effort  (Ford) over one game.

Question for Ford...had the Bulldogs comeback and won 44-43, would the conference had been that much better.  NO!!!!!

Redvalley8 wrote:

Angularvelocity wrote: I disagree with Ford.

Boise State capped off another 11+ win season in a great game vs. Washington, winning on theor last drive and sealing it with a pick.

Nevada dominated Arizona for 59 minutes (breaking all kinds of NCAA, MWC, NM bowl and  all-timebowl game records) and lost in a freakish turn of events in the last minute against the #5 offensive team in the nation.

San Diego was beatin' soundly by BYU on the second half, when playing with their second QB finally caught up to them.

Fresno State played their worse game of the year at the wrong time.  They just didn't look anything like they looked coming down the stretch in the conference.

None of the games (bowls) or turn of events were related to each other.  The MWC was a good conference this year.  Three very representative champions and 2 other very competitive teams.  To say it all sucked in hind-sight is ridiculous and reduces the Dogs Championship to crap, which no one was saying up till 5:00 Monday night.  

The Dogs won the MWC title their first in 13 years, do we really have to demean their effort  (Ford) over one game.

Question for Ford...had the Bulldogs comeback and won 44-43, would the conference had been that much better.  NO!!!!!

+1.
Why should we have to travel coast to coast to play our away games?? The MWC
is a good conference, especially when Boise comes back & BYU joins. It could be the best basketball conference in the nation this season. Just because a lot of the teams had bad years in football, doesn't mean the conference sucks. It's still a hell of a lot better than the WAC. (Gotta think about all the sports here).

For the first time in years you have a 9-3 and its because of the inferior competition? Do you have any idea how self incriminating that statement is.  I thought you people would be pre-season picks to win it all next year, but with the culture of this program, CSU will probably kick your ***.

reinmaster wrote:

For the first time in years you have a 9-3 and its because of the inferior competition? Do you have any idea how self incriminating that statement is.  I thought you people would be pre-season picks to win it all next year, but with the culture of this program, CSU will probably kick your ***.

reinmaster wrote:

For the first time in years you have a 9-3 and its because of the inferior competition? Do you have any idea how self incriminating that statement is.  I thought you people would be pre-season picks to win it all next year, but with the culture of this program, CSU will probably kick your ***.

MrGeologist wrote: To elaborate on what I've said in another post, we are never as good as we think we are.  This is evident over the years when we've had supposedly awesome offenses, yet struggle mightily wiht some of the worst teams around.  I recall lots of games where we get our first first down in the second quarter, or are held to under 100 yards total in the first half, but teams that we think we should have blown away by taht time.  While we do wind up winning in most of those games, the fact that we play, on offense, miserably for so long to such average compeitition is problematic.  We found that SMU is not even close to bad enough that we can play poorly for quarter, let alone for four quarters.  We aren't as good as we think we are, even our offense.  It's tough for me to see if David is such a great quarterback when I am envious of QB's like Southwick and others...they just get it done.

The MWC may have sucked but the Bulldogs were not ready to play in my opinion.
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