I really hope that the MWC doesn't give in and give Boise their home TV rights. We could really use Boise but as many are starting to say, "Just who do they think they are?"

gofresnostate wrote: What arrogance!

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/87734 23/boise-state-trying-get-big-east-mountain-west-a llow-broncos-retain-home-tv-rights-according-sourc es

OldFigBBJ2 wrote: I don't have a major problem with it. We got $1.2M/year/team under the restructured deal. Boise can control home rights but would still add value for its road games. Hypothetically, if we can get a hike to $1.3M-$1.4M, I don't have a problem with their receipt of $2M. Tough to deny that more eyeballs are tuned to Boise games and that's because they earned it, and we didn't.

I would say yes 

IF

1. They ONLY revenue they get is their home football games. Get ZERO NCAAT credit money and ZERO of the remaining football tv deal

2. If BSU football is in a tie (like the 3 way tie this year) they automatically go to the lowest bowl.

ie this year the new rule would have resulted in
Fresno to Las Vegas, SDSU to SD, and BSU to Hawaii 


But really this is pointless. If you give this to BSU then if anyone else steps up and becomes a top 20 program (ie Fresno) they will demand the same thing.

Personally I have in favor of a tiered system. With everyone getting x percent of tv money and schools earning "bonuses" based on performance (ie winning the conference in various sports, being ranked in football, ranked in mens basketball, winning NCAAT games, making a BCS bowl, ect).
 

godogsgo wrote: Boise is a program on thats already peaked and is beginning a decline. Theyre overrated this year and their coach will leave for Oregon by next season. I say let them go off and run the Big Least, a conference in decline. Let them ride off into the sunset of obscurity with their Tonto, SUDS. Worst thing we can do is get caught up in their BS greed. The MWC may somehow snag them now by bending over for them, but Boise will always be looking for the out. Not worth it.

portlandog wrote: Why are we mad at them, for wanting whats best for them? I don't blame them at all. Should the backup dancer get paid as much as the lead singer? Nope.

Plus, even if they negotiate a zillion dollar contract for themselves, if it helps up make ourselves a few extra bucks I'd call it a win-win.

Fangdog wrote:

portlandog wrote: Why are we mad at them, for wanting whats best for them? I don't blame them at all. Should the backup dancer get paid as much as the lead singer? Nope.

Plus, even if they negotiate a zillion dollar contract for themselves, if it helps up make ourselves a few extra bucks I'd call it a win-win.

That is how I see it.

You have to worry about what you get out of the deal and not what someone else gets. If you get less than you had then you got a legitimate gripe, but if you get more because of the other guy getting more, then what is the fuss?

Boise had a rebuilding year after losing so many players last season and only behind Alabama as to the number who went in the NFL. Despite this, Boise finished the season 11-2 with their win over PAC-12 Washington in their Bowl game. 

Boise has had 3 strong recruiting classes and I see Boise still being the dominate "Group-5" team. This means you want to be in the same conference as Boise because the conference with Boise has a high probability for having the highest ranked team which gets the automatic-bid for the money game. It does somewhere down the line get down to, "Who won the game"?

The team in the "Group-5" conferences I see being a future real challenge to Boise is Fresno State. Fresno State wants to be in the same conference as Boise because if Fresno defeats Boise then there is no doubt. Otherwise, there will be a question as to who is ranked higher; Fresno or Boise? Boise may be ranked higher than Fresno and get the auto-bid, but had Fresno played Boise, Fresno may had won and it would be Fresno with the auto-bid instead of being left-out of the Big Money Bowl.

firetown1 wrote:

Fangdog wrote:

portlandog wrote: Why are we mad at them, for wanting whats best for them? I don't blame them at all. Should the backup dancer get paid as much as the lead singer? Nope.

Plus, even if they negotiate a zillion dollar contract for themselves, if it helps up make ourselves a few extra bucks I'd call it a win-win.

That is how I see it.

You have to worry about what you get out of the deal and not what someone else gets. If you get less than you had then you got a legitimate gripe, but if you get more because of the other guy getting more, then what is the fuss?

Boise had a rebuilding year after losing so many players last season and only behind Alabama as to the number who went in the NFL. Despite this, Boise finished the season 11-2 with their win over PAC-12 Washington in their Bowl game. 

Boise has had 3 strong recruiting classes and I see Boise still being the dominate "Group-5" team. This means you want to be in the same conference as Boise because the conference with Boise has a high probability for having the highest ranked team which gets the automatic-bid for the money game. It does somewhere down the line get down to, "Who won the game"?

The team in the "Group-5" conferences I see being a future real challenge to Boise is Fresno State. Fresno State wants to be in the same conference as Boise because if Fresno defeats Boise then there is no doubt. Otherwise, there will be a question as to who is ranked higher; Fresno or Boise? Boise may be ranked higher than Fresno and get the auto-bid, but had Fresno played Boise, Fresno may had won and it would be Fresno with the auto-bid instead of being left-out of the Big Money Bowl.

Boise isnt going to the nbe, it doesnt make sense anymore.  If ctd sticks around, I see us catching boise real soon...  If boise is in the mwc next year, I think fresno beats them at home...

phelps1 wrote: The MWC needs to put a date in writing. Rejoin by this date......or offer is off the table. The big east days are limited, so I say put the pressure back on them.

godogsgo wrote: Boise is a program on thats already peaked and is beginning a decline. Theyre overrated this year and their coach will leave for Oregon by next season. I say let them go off and run the Big Least, a conference in decline. Let them ride off into the sunset of obscurity with their Tonto, SUDS. Worst thing we can do is get caught up in their BS greed. The MWC may somehow snag them now by bending over for them, but Boise will always be looking for the out. Not worth it.

arx162218 wrote: it makes sense for Boise to be in the Big East next year. That conference still has an autobid into a BCS bowl for 2013, and with nearly every good football team exiting, that's Boise's league to lose. It makes logical sense for them, if their exit clause is really that good, to stick around for at least next year. 

OldFigBBJ2 wrote: I'd love to know the terms of Boise's Big East exit clause, because if the clause has any teeth and if Boise's argument to avoid it is frustration of purpose (basically: that the Big East is no longer the league Boise bought into, due to defections of football and basketball schools), Boise damages its case by staying in the Big East for 2013.

If the exit clause has any teeth at all, Boise can't accept the benefit of a weak football conference in cruising to an AQ in 2013, and then claim the burden of a weak football conference as a reason to leave penalty-free in 2014.  It's inconsistent.  Depending upon the terms of the exit clause, it may be that Kustra has to make a decision long before claiming an easy cakewalk to an AQ berth, if penalties are to be avoided. 

EDIT: I do realize that your post assumes the exit clause is more favorable to Boise.

arx162218 wrote: it makes sense for Boise to be in the Big East next year. That conference still has an autobid into a BCS bowl for 2013, and with nearly every good football team exiting, that's Boise's league to lose. It makes logical sense for them, if their exit clause is really that good, to stick around for at least next year. 

calimyrna wrote: I would really like to see Boise in the MWC.  However, they need to fall in line or stay in the BE.  MWC needs to stay firm and not give in.  You should hear them at their board.  They keep saying that they will be going backwards if they stay in MW.  I guess they were in the PAC when they made those BCS games, no wait, they were in the MW or was it WAC?  They can't fill thier 35K seat stadium, yet they are a national brand?

559notown wrote:

godogsgo wrote: Boise is a program on thats already peaked and is beginning a decline. Theyre overrated this year and their coach will leave for Oregon by next season. I say let them go off and run the Big Least, a conference in decline. Let them ride off into the sunset of obscurity with their Tonto, SUDS. Worst thing we can do is get caught up in their BS greed. The MWC may somehow snag them now by bending over for them, but Boise will always be looking for the out. Not worth it.

Are you kidding me??? They lost more talent to than every team in the country, minus Alabama, and managed to win 11 games and will finish in the top 15... They return a ton of talent from this very Junior heavy team and will once again be the favorite to break into a BCS game. Your envy is blinding your view of reality... For God sakes, this was a down year and they won 11 games.... Sorry sir, no decline in their near future.

Sparatore wrote: I used to have respect for them for what they have accomplished, but enough is enough.  They have become the whores of div. 1 football.

KamaainaUH wrote:

Sparatore wrote: I used to have respect for them for what they have accomplished, but enough is enough.  They have become the whores of div. 1 football.

Glad you guys feel this way too. Boise can go to the Big East, good riddance. SDSU burned a bridge when they left the MWC, no way Thompson allows those jerks back in. SDSU has had one good season in the last 20, what makes them think they're so special?

godogsgo wrote: Boise is a program on thats already peaked and is beginning a decline. Theyre overrated this year and their coach will leave for Oregon by next season. I say let them go off and run the Big Least, a conference in decline. Let them ride off into the sunset of obscurity with their Tonto, SUDS. Worst thing we can do is get caught up in their BS greed. The MWC may somehow snag them now by bending over for them, but Boise will always be looking for the out. Not worth it.