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- dogday63
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Posted: 12/18/2012 7:54 PM
Utah State loses coach to Wisky
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye- on-college-football/21420705/report-wisconsin-to-h ire-gary-andersen Wisconsin has found its new head coach, and it's Utah State 's Gary Andersen. Reports first surfaced on Tuesday evening that the Utah State coach had interviewed for the position and had emerged as a favorite, and now reports say Andersen is no longer the favorite. He's the choice. The Wisconsin State Journal is reporting that Andersen is a done deal and will succeed Bret Bielema at Wisconsin. Bielema caught Wisconsin and just about everybody in the college football world off-guard earlier this month when he left to take the Arkansas job. Utah State finished its season with a win over Toledo in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl Saturday. That win improved the Aggies to 11-2 on the season and the Aggies are currently ranked 18 in the AP Poll. One of those losses came against Wisconsin in September, as the Badgers needed to comeback from a 14-3 deficit and for Utah State to miss a late field goal to emerge with the 16-14 win. Barry Alvarez must have been impressed with what he saw. Considering that Wisconsin was somewhat late to the game thanks to Bielema's sudden departure, this is a solid hire by the Badgers. Andersen took over a Utah State program that hadn't accomplished much in the past and after only four seasons he not only led the Aggies to that 11-2 record and first conference title since it won the Big West in 1997, but into both the AP and Coaches polls.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 7:58 PM
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Owch. Poor aggies.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:17 PM
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Time to uninvite SJCC and USU. its back to the basement for them.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:24 PM
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dam both USU and SJSU lose their coach. It looks like we will at least get to keep our head coach one more year. Lucky us I guess  . It SUCKS how much cash the big time programs have. Really hard to keep good coaches as a mid major.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:33 PM
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thedude15 wrote: dam both USU and SJSU lose their coach.
It looks like we will at least get to keep our head coach one more year. Lucky us I guess .
It SUCKS how much cash the big time programs have. Really hard to keep good coaches as a mid major. Which is why I keep saying Fresno has got to either have Boise and SDSU back in the MWC with a new TV contract or Fresno gets an invite to the BE. Even then I don't know if it will be enough to keep successful Fresno coaches.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:38 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- thedude15 wrote: dam both USU and SJSU lose their coach. It looks like we will at least get to keep our head coach one more year. Lucky us I guess  . It SUCKS how much cash the big time programs have. Really hard to keep good coaches as a mid major. --------------------------------------------- As a mid major, we need to accept that we will never have what the "big guys" have. In order for us to compete with them, one of two things need to happen; this cast system called mid major needs to be legislated out, or we need to be invited in, which in that case, we wouldn't want the legislation.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:40 PM
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I think we are fortunate that wisky did not hire CTD.....
should be the end of the merry go round for this year....
I think we lose him next year...... tough loss for USU... they have a great team coming back.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:46 PM
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Fangdog wrote:
thedude15 wrote: dam both USU and SJSU lose their coach.
It looks like we will at least get to keep our head coach one more year. Lucky us I guess .
It SUCKS how much cash the big time programs have. Really hard to keep good coaches as a mid major. Which is why I keep saying Fresno has got to either have Boise and SDSU back in the MWC with a new TV contract or Fresno gets an invite to the BE. Even then I don't know if it will be enough to keep successful Fresno coaches. Bingo.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:47 PM
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winthewac wrote: I think we are fortunate that wisky did not hire CTD.....
should be the end of the merry go round for this year....
I think we lose him next year...... tough loss for USU... they have a great team coming back. I have a good feeling if DeRyuter finds himself competing in the same conference as Boise and SDSU, he will stick around awhile.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:47 PM
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Fangdog wrote:
thedude15 wrote: dam both USU and SJSU lose their coach.
It looks like we will at least get to keep our head coach one more year. Lucky us I guess .
It SUCKS how much cash the big time programs have. Really hard to keep good coaches as a mid major. Which is why I keep saying Fresno has got to either have Boise and SDSU back in the MWC with a new TV contract or Fresno gets an invite to the BE. Even then I don't know if it will be enough to keep successful Fresno coaches. I agree but if we go to the nBE then it has to make sense... a full sports invite with a full western division.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:50 PM
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There is a recent tweet stating several western schools are contacting Aresco. I wonder who?
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Posted: 12/18/2012 9:00 PM
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I think USU will be OK. At least compared to SJSU. The Aggies AD and boosters have shown a noticeably (and tangible, through facilities and uniform improvements) improved commitment to their program in recent years. Not saying they're in great shape, but think they'll be fine going forward as an addition to the MWC. They have the potential to find another fine young coach, IMHO.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 9:06 PM
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RedDog wrote: There is a recent tweet stating several western schools are contacting Aresco. I wonder who? It doesn't take a genius to figure out the handwriting on the wall. If you are not in a conference bringing in enough money giving you a chance to survive, you are screwed. I could see where any mid-major school in the West who is not in the BE, and if in fact the BE is where Boise and SDSU ends-up, all of them contacting Aresco.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:17 PM
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Damn, that sucks.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:34 PM
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There is also a rumor a western school has already accepted an invite but they are waiting to make it official. I really think when it is all said and done Fresno will be in the Big East as a football only. Not sure the Big Least wants a full western division at this point. Really that is GOOD for Fresno. 1. Fresno has a landing spot (big west) for other sports 2. New Mexico and UNLV become WAY more attractive if a full western division is created. thus reducing Fresno's chances. The MW IS gonna lose some schools to the Big Least. We just got to hope Fresno is one of them. RedDog wrote: There is a recent tweet stating several western schools are contacting Aresco. I wonder who?
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:37 PM
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Even with the Big Least money we would still either need a.) a coach like BSU has (ie wants to stay) or b.) a BIG time donor that provided big time money for coaches. Most people would leave their job if someone else was offering them 2-3 times as much to do the same thing. College football coaches are no different then the rest of us. Hell I left my job for a 25% raise (way smaller then what these coaches are getting). Fangdog wrote:
thedude15 wrote: dam both USU and SJSU lose their coach.
It looks like we will at least get to keep our head coach one more year. Lucky us I guess .
It SUCKS how much cash the big time programs have. Really hard to keep good coaches as a mid major. Which is why I keep saying Fresno has got to either have Boise and SDSU back in the MWC with a new TV contract or Fresno gets an invite to the BE. Even then I don't know if it will be enough to keep successful Fresno coaches.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:39 PM
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I have a feeling we are holding off thinking others will too, but in end other MW will leave and we will be stuck. karma.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:43 PM
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doubt it. We were left behind when the MW formed We left the WAC after signing a "pack" We will leave again for the $$$ and to rejoin SDSU/BSU if offered no way we turn it down. SURE it is possible they never offer us BUT if they do we say yes. RedDog wrote: I have a feeling we are holding off thinking others will too, but in end other MW will leave and we will be stuck. karma.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 10:48 PM
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thedude15 wrote:
The MW IS gonna lose some schools to the Big Least. We just got to hope Fresno is one of them. I look at our schedule for next season and it looks more like a Boise schedule they used in their climb to successful new heights. It is my wish we do not have to go through as long and arduous period as Boise before we go from relying on "hope" and become a statement in fact.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 11:02 PM
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SJMDog wrote: Damn, that sucks. Assuming Andersen doesn't pull a Butch Jones and says no after sleeping on it, there are lessons to be learned in all this. 1. Don't get too attached to your coach at this level. Be prepared that in the terribly unfair reality of college athletics, money talks, and the Chris Petersen's of the world are the exception rather to the rule. 2. If next season this sort of stuff again is zeroed in on DeRuyter, don't demand he make some kind of declaration "I'm staying and committed to Fresno State". Because that's what Gary Andersen has done and a couple weeks later apparently he fled. Looking at his statement again, he totally left cryptic clues he was renting and not buying, yet in reading the USU board they are feeling betrayed and hurt and that sucks for them. But read these Andersen quotes: " I plan to remain the head football coach at Utah State University." "The leadership of President (Stan) Albrecht and Mr. Barnes, as well as the support from the fans and community, are big reasons why this is the right place for myself and my family at this time." http://www.utahstateaggies.com.../113012aab.html
Shrewd, shrewd and shrewd. You'd hope the Utah State administration understood how carefully spoken its head coach was and must have not been super comfortable about his return. A couple added words at the beginning and end left a lot of doubt in hindsight. Bottom line: I don't want some official statement that isn't exactly a 100 percent endorsement of a coach saying he'll stay and then a couple weeks later a job opens up he just won't say no to. I'd just assume stay quiet in the press, act like your sincere in your desire to stay with your recruits, and if your dream job comes along, there's nothing said in an official capacity that can make your fans scream foul. For Utah State's sake, I hope it's not true and Andersen sticks to his "commitment".
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Posted: 12/18/2012 11:09 PM
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At least they waited until after their bowl game. Unlike the other foos.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 12:11 AM
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goBulldogs01 wrote: At least they waited until after their bowl game. Unlike the other foos. You can't afford to wait to hire a coach because this is prime recruiting season. Fresno should know that having gained 9 commits this weekend alone. Utah State lucked out in having their coach for the FIP Bowl since it played on the first day of the bowl season. The recruiting calendar, however, is just another in the NCAA's book of a million things that don't make sense.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 7:51 AM
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Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 8:12 AM
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anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO. When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere. There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences. As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people. IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 9:02 AM
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Fangdog wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO.
When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere.
There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences.
As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people.
IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail. Gary Andersen was one of Scott's first hires, and as for attracting a coach, Chuckie Keeton is back so the cupboard is not bare for a coach trying to move up the ranks. Granted the new coach will have to follow-up on an 11-2 season, unlike CTD, who had some serious athletes/talent and only had to improve on a 4 win season by Hill. It was a no brainer for CTD to take the Fresno job.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 9:05 AM
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anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. File this one away for future reference. (For those who don't know, Scott Barnes is a former FSU basketball player who played under Coach Boyd Grant.)
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Posted: 12/19/2012 9:09 AM
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anointed1sux wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO.
When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere.
There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences.
As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people.
IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail. Gary Andersen was one of Scott's first hires, and as for attracting a coach, Chuckie Keeton is back so the cupboard is not bare for a coach trying to move up the ranks. Granted the new coach will have to follow-up on an 11-2 season, unlike CTD, who had some serious athletes/talent and only had to improve on a 4 win season by Hill. It was a no brainer for CTD to take the Fresno job. ....or any aspiring coach with HC ability. Boeh did a great job picking the right one let's hope Barnes is as good or lucky, depending on your personal preference as to how you normally see outcomes transpire.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 9:28 AM
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anointed1sux wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO.
When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere.
There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences.
As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people.
IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail. Gary Andersen was one of Scott's first hires, and as for attracting a coach, Chuckie Keeton is back so the cupboard is not bare for a coach trying to move up the ranks. Granted the new coach will have to follow-up on an 11-2 season, unlike CTD, who had some serious athletes/talent and only had to improve on a 4 win season by Hill. It was a no brainer for CTD to take the Fresno job. You guys both make some really good points. I will say this for Utah State fans: it took 14 years and three fired coaches before Andersen delivered another winning record for the Aggies in 2011 since their last one in 1996. But if he doesn't totally gut his staff going to Wisconsin with him you'd hope they can promote from within and they can keep some momentum going there.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 9:34 AM
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Fangdog wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO.
When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere.
There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences.
As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people.
IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail. Great post Fang. I think SJSU and Utah State will be fine as long as they find a coach with the right attitude and work ethic. Both teams have a lot of talent coming back... it's all about the kids "buying in." I think we have seen a perfect example of this in CTD and what a team is capable of with the right coach.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:19 AM
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Sparatore wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO.
When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere.
There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences.
As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people.
IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail. Great post Fang. I think SJSU and Utah State will be fine as long as they find a coach with the right attitude and work ethic. Both teams have a lot of talent coming back... it's all about the kids "buying in." I think we have seen a perfect example of this in CTD and what a team is capable of with the right coach. You often hear the expression, "Coaches coach, but it is the players who play the game". This statement often comes from those defending the losing coach. If anyone thinks or has doubts the importance of the coach, one needs only look at Fresno State as an example.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:53 AM
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winthewac wrote: I think we are fortunate that wisky did not hire CTD.....
should be the end of the merry go round for this year....
I think we lose him next year...... tough loss for USU... they have a great team coming back. Losing him next year???? Why, he won't just bolt to anywhere...
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Posted: 12/19/2012 12:07 PM
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DogFan8 wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. File this one away for future reference. (For those who don't know, Scott Barnes is a former FSU basketball player who played under Coach Boyd Grant.) And Boyd Grant loved Fresno State, I happen to be related to him. He also has a brother by the name of Tiny Grant that graduated from Univ of Utah and played Center for the Green Bay Packers in the late 50's. Great family and their word was their bond
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Posted: 12/19/2012 12:13 PM
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FresnoStater wrote:
anointed1sux wrote:
Fangdog wrote:
anointed1sux wrote: Utah State will be fine. They have very competent AD in Scott Barnes (I was hoping for him instead of Boeh) and he will make a good hire. You make a good point of view, IMO.
When a successful coach leaves, the majority of fans automatically predict doom and gloom. It does not necessarily have to be this way at all. True there is a risk and as it is with any risk there is a probability for failure, but there is always a probability for success as well. Examples of this are everywhere.
There are a lot of smart young assistant coaches out there who are working for successful head coaches. One would have to assume these people have the ability to emulate and add positives from their own experiences.
As the financial rewards for successful coaches in the coaching profession has escalated, one would have to expect the attraction to the coaching profession would be of high quality people.
IMO, the key is not so much the new hire as it is the AD and President having enough sense to know the difference between a high quality probability new coach and one not so much. I know there is always the awkward and struggle of transition, but this issue can be of short duration with the right hire. To say, "Utah State is screwed now" has no more validity than saying, "Utah State will barely miss a beat"......it is just another opportunity for someone......and yes, an opportunity to succeed or fail. Gary Andersen was one of Scott's first hires, and as for attracting a coach, Chuckie Keeton is back so the cupboard is not bare for a coach trying to move up the ranks. Granted the new coach will have to follow-up on an 11-2 season, unlike CTD, who had some serious athletes/talent and only had to improve on a 4 win season by Hill. It was a no brainer for CTD to take the Fresno job. You guys both make some really good points. I will say this for Utah State fans: it took 14 years and three fired coaches before Andersen delivered another winning record for the Aggies in 2011 since their last one in 1996. But if he doesn't totally gut his staff going to Wisconsin with him you'd hope they can promote from within and they can keep some momentum going there. From reading their board, he is taking quite a few of his assistants with him, they are not happy campers right now
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