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Posted: 12/17/2012 1:55 PM
Add a JC QB to the list.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:08 PM
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QB from the #1 JC team in the country. Not too shabby.
If he can come in for spring ball, I would think this will ensure Watson moves to WR full time.
He was a stud out of Bakersfield HS a couple years ago.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:09 PM
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I wonder if we are about to see a QB move to another position or possibly transfer.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:10 PM
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SoCalValleyDog wrote: I wonder if we are about to see a QB move to another position or possibly transfer. jmckune beat you to it. And I think he's right. Watson will be moving to WR full-time. This will also allow us to redshirt Greenlee.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:20 PM
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6 QBs on a college roster is the standard. Why anyone would transfer when everyone already knows who the starting QB is would be moronic.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:22 PM
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PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: 6 QBs on a college roster is the standard. Why anyone would transfer when everyone already knows who the starting QB is would be moronic. Yep.... oh, you can add Burrell's TE Mike Dunn to the list, he just committed too 
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:22 PM
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Three years of eligibility? Nice get
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:23 PM
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We really needed this.
Excited to see where else Watson can contribute.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:32 PM
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This is shaping up to be a veeery good weekend.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 2:35 PM
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ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote:
PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: 6 QBs on a college roster is the standard. Why anyone would transfer when everyone already knows who the starting QB is would be moronic. Yep....
oh, you can add Burrell's TE Mike Dunn to the list, he just committed too Found this story from earlier this season about Dunn: http://www.bakersfieldcaliforn...-rival-defenses |
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Posted: 12/17/2012 3:33 PM
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As a Bako boy I'm thrilled to see CTD is recruiting BC... Boise , San Jose, San Diego St and KState have been grabbing studs from Bako JC for years.... and Hill seemed to have no relationship with the staff.
I wouldn't say Burrell is a great passer (strong arm though), but he is a decent runner, a great leader and a winner.... Valley title at BHS , and now State JC title at BC. I believe he has 3 years eligibility left as well. |
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Posted: 12/17/2012 4:05 PM
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http://www.bakersfieldcaliforn...-on-track-at-QBAccording to this the Bulldogs could apply for a medical redshirt.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 4:13 PM
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FSUMay08 wrote: http://www.bakersfieldcaliforn...-on-track-at-QB
According to this the Bulldogs could apply for a medical redshirt. Skidmore is coaching there now also. Nice find. |
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Posted: 12/17/2012 4:42 PM
anyone worried about all the juco commits?
We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting....  |
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Posted: 12/17/2012 4:47 PM
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dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting....  This last weekend happened to be mostly JC visitors. That's why this latest round is comprised of them. Not worried in the slightest.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 4:57 PM
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I would say a few extra JC's in this class is ok because I think there are only about 15 Sophmores listed on the roster (Jrs. next year) My thoughts are maybe it would spread the loss of scholarship players a little more rather than lose no one two years from now and everyone in four years.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 5:08 PM
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FSUMay08 wrote: I would say a few extra JC's in this class is ok because I think there are only about 15 Sophmores listed on the roster (Jrs. next year) My thoughts are maybe it would spread the loss of scholarship players a little more rather than lose no one two years from now and everyone in four years. And some of the JC's may redshirt-- this will help to spread things out. I think that this recruiting class illustrates how thin things were depth-wise this season. It was a blessing that there were a minimum of injuries >>>>> a lot of credit to S&C Coach Joey Boese.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 5:38 PM
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Does anyone know if we are still pursuing Chris Hannible (another Bako standout)?
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Posted: 12/17/2012 5:50 PM
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I never liked the idea of a ton of JC guys coming in. I can understand 3-5 as a quick fix for a couple really bad positions in a year we sorely need them. In our case, JCs for the safety, offensive and defensive line positions I can certainly see and is warranted. But once a class becomes JC heavy, that raises a lot of red flags. Cody Clay and Mike Saenz came in last year for the OL, but it was freshman Alex Fifita who ended up starting instead. No doubt incoming JCs for the safety position is going to be a big welcome since we're low on depth there to begin with. I just hope this isn't a trend. dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... |
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Posted: 12/17/2012 5:55 PM
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arx162218 wrote: I never liked the idea of a ton of JC guys coming in. I can understand 3-5 as a quick fix for a couple really bad positions in a year we sorely need them. In our case, JCs for the safety, offensive and defensive line positions I can certainly see and is warranted.
But once a class becomes JC heavy, that raises a lot of red flags.
Cody Clay and Mike Saenz came in last year for the OL, but it was freshman Alex Fifita who ended up starting instead. No doubt incoming JCs for the safety position is going to be a big welcome since we're low on depth there to begin with. I just hope this isn't a trend.
dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... Cody Clay decided not to come to Fresno State. Saenz got moved inside to LG.
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Last edited 12/17/2012 5:58 PM by ROFLCOPTERofDoom
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Posted: 12/17/2012 6:27 PM
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Kansas State manages yearly. Get a JC ready to go as opposed to a Freshman who will 'develop' and in two years be ready......my math says....
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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:49 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- ROFLCOPTERofDoom wrote: dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... This last weekend happened to be mostly JC visitors. That's why this latest round is comprised of them. Not worried in the slightest. --------------------------------------------- Uh yeah but have you also payed attention to how many jucos CTD has offered? |
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Posted: 12/17/2012 8:51 PM
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dieharddog wrote:
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dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... This last weekend happened to be mostly JC visitors. That's why this latest round is comprised of them.
Not worried in the slightest.
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Uh yeah but have you also payed attention to how many jucos CTD has offered? Yes. I have. Most of them in positions of serious need, particularly OL and S. We're signing 28 guys this year. I have no problem if we shore up weak positions with 8 or 9 JCs.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 9:23 PM
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dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... This last weekend happened to be mostly JC visitors. That's why this latest round is comprised of them.
Not worried in the slightest.
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Uh yeah but have you also payed attention to how many jucos CTD has offered? Yes. I have. Most of them in positions of serious need, particularly OL and S. We're signing 28 guys this year. I have no problem if we shore up weak positions with 8 or 9 JCs. --------------------------------------------- Ok well...you continue being ok with a whole bunch of jc players...i on the other hand, would prefer hs players. Have we really had great luck with these type of players? I dont recall too many great ones... 
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Posted: 12/17/2012 9:31 PM
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dieharddog wrote:
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dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... This last weekend happened to be mostly JC visitors. That's why this latest round is comprised of them.
Not worried in the slightest.
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Uh yeah but have you also payed attention to how many jucos CTD has offered? Yes. I have. Most of them in positions of serious need, particularly OL and S. We're signing 28 guys this year. I have no problem if we shore up weak positions with 8 or 9 JCs.
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Ok well...you continue being ok with a whole bunch of jc players...i on the other hand, would prefer hs players. Have we really had great luck with these type of players? I dont recall too many great ones... Funny thing is I hear people knock PH all the time for ignoring Jucos. Let me be clear. I don't condone loading up on JC players a la charlie Weiss, who has 16 of 22 commits from JCs. But I don't mind 8 or 9 when we're signing so many this class. if CTD takes 12+ I will be perturbed, but I don't see it coming to that.
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Last edited 12/17/2012 9:31 PM by ROFLCOPTERofDoom
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Posted: 12/17/2012 9:37 PM
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dieharddog wrote:
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dieharddog wrote: We are getting quite a bit of them. This is a quick fix but if he doesn't pick up a bunch of HS kids next year, this could get interesting.... This last weekend happened to be mostly JC visitors. That's why this latest round is comprised of them.
Not worried in the slightest.
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Uh yeah but have you also payed attention to how many jucos CTD has offered? Yes. I have. Most of them in positions of serious need, particularly OL and S. We're signing 28 guys this year. I have no problem if we shore up weak positions with 8 or 9 JCs.
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Ok well...you continue being ok with a whole bunch of jc players...i on the other hand, would prefer hs players. Have we really had great luck with these type of players? I dont recall too many great ones... Funny thing is I hear people knock PH all the time for ignoring Jucos. Let me be clear. I don't condone loading up on JC players a la charlie Weiss, who has 16 of 22 commits from JCs. But I don't mind 8 or 9 when we're signing so many this class. if CTD takes 12+ I will be perturbed, but I don't see it coming to that. --------------------------------------------- Most people believed he never even looked at.them....whether that was true or not, thats the rep.he got. A few, ok....but yeah nothing like Weis....or KState who seemed to tank with too many in the program.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 10:09 PM
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I'm getting worried about lack of OL commits.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 10:18 PM
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DogFan8 wrote:
It was a blessing that there were a minimum of injuries >>>>> a lot of credit to S&C Coach Joey Boese. Absolutely, players in-shape are less apt to get injured. Several players told me they ran more this year than they had all the time combined since they been here.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 10:59 PM
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jimsgig wrote: I'm getting worried about lack of OL commits. Don't be. We'll get some soon enough after the dead period.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 11:59 PM
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Lumping all JUCOs into a pile is ignorant. Lets trust that these coaches, who brought the first conference championship to Fresno in 13 years in their first year, know what they're doing. Lets trust that they're judging these recruits on their individual merits, their individual character.
Lets also remember that a lot of these JUCO players are also local guys who went to high school in the valley. I don't know what the fans that knock JUCO players are hoping for, but the bottom line is this. Fresno State is lacking depth and the JUCO guys can bring some instant depth to Bulldog football. I welcome them and the new philosophy.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 5:34 AM
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PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: Lumping all JUCOs into a pile is ignorant. Lets trust that these coaches, who brought the first conference championship to Fresno in 13 years in their first year, know what they're doing. Lets trust that they're judging these recruits on their individual merits, their individual character.
Lets also remember that a lot of these JUCO players are also local guys who went to high school in the valley. I don't know what the fans that knock JUCO players are hoping for, but the bottom line is this. Fresno State is lacking depth and the JUCO guys can bring some instant depth to Bulldog football. I welcome them and the new philosophy. +1! Thank you.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 6:00 AM
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On numerous occasions CTD has stated he wants to build a solid foundation through HS recruits. The problem is they need quality depth and JUCO's provide that depth. Out of the 28 incoming recruits there will probably be 8-9 JUCO's. In future classes we will probably see only a few, but quality players.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 6:02 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- DogFan8 wrote: PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: Lumping all JUCOs into a pile is ignorant. Lets trust that these coaches, who brought the first conference championship to Fresno in 13 years in their first year, know what they're doing. Lets trust that they're judging these recruits on their individual merits, their individual character.
Lets also remember that a lot of these JUCO players are also local guys who went to high school in the valley. I don't know what the fans that knock JUCO players are hoping for, but the bottom line is this. Fresno State is lacking depth and the JUCO guys can bring some instant depth to Bulldog football. I welcome them and the new philosophy. +1! Thank you. --------------------------------------------- +2 Thank you |
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Posted: 12/18/2012 7:41 AM
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PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: Lumping all JUCOs into a pile is ignorant. Lets trust that these coaches, who brought the first conference championship to Fresno in 13 years in their first year, know what they're doing. Lets trust that they're judging these recruits on their individual merits, their individual character.
Lets also remember that a lot of these JUCO players are also local guys who went to high school in the valley. I don't know what the fans that knock JUCO players are hoping for, but the bottom line is this. Fresno State is lacking depth and the JUCO guys can bring some instant depth to Bulldog football. I welcome them and the new philosophy. Great post One of the retired jersey numbers on the stadium wall was a former JUCO. There are a number of Junior colleges within proximity of Fresno State with outstanding Junior College programs and athletes. Just because the former Fresno State coach burned-bridges at most of them doesn't mean the new coach can't find gems to fill his needs benefiting the team. |
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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:04 AM
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As an aside, if I were starting over, I would've started my academic career at F.C.C. AFTER taking a respite to grow up.
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Posted: 12/18/2012 1:12 PM
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PleasewintheWAC2006 wrote: Lumping all JUCOs into a pile is ignorant. Lets trust that these coaches, who brought the first conference championship to Fresno in 13 years in their first year, know what they're doing. Lets trust that they're judging these recruits on their individual merits, their individual character.
Lets also remember that a lot of these JUCO players are also local guys who went to high school in the valley. I don't know what the fans that knock JUCO players are hoping for, but the bottom line is this. Fresno State is lacking depth and the JUCO guys can bring some instant depth to Bulldog football. I welcome them and the new philosophy. Great post, also this is CTD's first full class. So, in 3-4 years the freshmen will be the biggest contributers by then. But for now most are too raw to make an immediate impact. There may be a few red-shirts. In the meantime, the coaches are getting a few JC's this year. To prevent a massive drop off. Vercher will help with PT going to the NFL. Which freshman DB do you think can contribute more in their first year than Vercher will in his? 1 Corinthians: 10:13
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