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OT: Tragedy in Connecticut

Posted: 12/14/2012 10:13 AM

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At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 10:24 AM

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Horrible, horrible!  18 children dead!  All may be from one kindergarten classroom.....  What on earth would make someone do something like that!  Thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of this senseless act....

Posted: 12/14/2012 10:26 AM

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It's beyond tragic, it's evil.  Evil thrives in this world.  I don't know how or why someone would do this.  It's a horrible thought to be burying your child at Christmas, rather than watching them open up gifts joyfully. 

Posted: 12/14/2012 10:41 AM

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these shootings have gotten out of hand.

Since the Aurora shooting and the Sikh temple shooting (which was in Aug), it seems there have been sooo many more lately!
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Posted: 12/14/2012 10:44 AM

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FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?

Posted: 12/14/2012 10:48 AM

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It makes me sad what ugliness there is in the world now.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 10:57 AM

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Upsetting.

I teach in a community that had a mass killing last year--the Seal Beach massacre where a man went in shooting at a hair salon. Earlier in the day he had visited the elementary school were his kid was and fortunately didn't do anything there.

My kids sometimes bug me because I always have my door locked during class. That means someone has to get up to open it every time someone has to get in. Kind of a pain. But my room is right in front. Anyone comes in off the street and ol' Mr. Ford's room is the first door they'll see. That door is staying locked.

Ford
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Posted: 12/14/2012 10:58 AM

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Agreed dude.  As a parent of a kindergartner and another one next year, this one hits close to home...

Posted: 12/14/2012 11:04 AM

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LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?
I'm done posting on that thread. I made my points on the SEC and ESPN and am comfortable leaving them behind either way. 
I may be posting Fresno State-related information on this board as soon as later today. But right now I can't take my eyes off of CNN. This tragedy provided me with a lot of perspective.

Last edited 12/14/2012 11:08 AM by FresnoStater

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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:10 AM

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It's a sad day.

Posted: 12/14/2012 11:20 AM

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What could possibly warp someone's mind into doing a thing like this? I recently lost a daughter, and she wasn't even a child. It's a very, very terrible thing, and I can't imagine anyone's being sick enough to do that deliberately.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:20 AM

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MrGeologist wrote:

It's beyond tragic, it's evil.  Evil thrives in this world.  I don't know how or why someone would do this.  It's a horrible thought to be burying your child at Christmas, rather than watching them open up gifts joyfully. 

Just a horrible and very evil act that has occurred today! I am in morning for those families and children!

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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:28 AM

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Ford ur a very smart man! It just seems more of this kind of stuff is going to happen more and more. American culture has moved away from being a God fearing, serve your neighbors and value work ethic...instead it's I'll do what ever I want and if i can get it for doing nothing I'd rather do that. Church what the hell is that?!! This is truly heartbreaking and those of us that have kids had our hearts drop when we heard about this! Ford if it's not against the law I'd seriously consider carrying a concealed if you're the first door off the street!!!!! Thoughts and prayers to the families effected by this tragedy!!

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--- CoachFord wrote:

Upsetting.

I teach in a community that had a mass killing last year--the Seal Beach massacre where a man went in shooting at a hair salon. Earlier in the day he had visited the elementary school were his kid was and fortunately didn't do anything there.

My kids sometimes bug me because I always have my door locked during class. That means someone has to get up to open it every time someone has to get in. Kind of a pain. But my room is right in front. Anyone comes in off the street and ol' Mr. Ford's room is the first door they'll see. That door is staying locked.

Ford

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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:30 AM

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FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?
I'm done posting on that thread. I made my points on the SEC and ESPN and am comfortable leaving them behind either way. 
I may be posting Fresno State-related information on this board as soon as later today. But right now I can't take my eyes off of CNN. This tragedy provided me with a lot of perspective.
I figured that would be your answer.  The massacre is only important to you today and you don't want to actually do anything to positively influence others in our society.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:36 AM

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As a father of a 6 year old and a 4 year old I couldn't imagine going through this horror. My heart goes out to the Innocent children and their family's.May you find peace some how during this Devastating time.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:51 AM

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No25juice wrote: Ford ur a very smart man! It just seems more of this kind of stuff is going to happen more and more. American culture has moved away from being a God fearing, serve your neighbors and value work ethic...instead it's I'll do what ever I want and if i can get it for doing nothing I'd rather do that. Church what the hell is that?!! This is truly heartbreaking and those of us that have kids had our hearts drop when we heard about this! Ford if it's not against the law I'd seriously consider carrying a concealed if you're the first door off the street!!!!! Thoughts and prayers to the families effected by this tragedy!!



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I just see it as math at work. There are 310,000,000 people in the U.S. and about one to two percent of them would be diagnosed as psychopaths. If just 1 out of every 1,000 became a shooter that would still be over 3,000 shootings per year in American due to that alone. Add the ease it is to get around and find large groups of people in small areas, bad things are going to happen.

Ford
"She pulled out the very best in us when we didn't believe we had it. And her record absolutely shows for it."

Posted: 12/14/2012 11:56 AM

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How the hell does a guy like this get in to the school?  The elementary school where my daughter attended was like Fort Knox and I live in an extremely low crime area. It makes the local daily news if someone jaywalks.   Front doors at the school were locked at all times, I couldn't even get in without presenting an ID and being on a "list"
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:03 PM

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Apparently his mom worked there. He killed her, the principal, another family member away from the school and 20 plus kids. That guy snapped. December is a depressing time for many people. Very tragic.

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How the hell does a guy like this get in to the school?  The elementary school where my daughter attended was like Fort Knox and I live in an extremely low crime area. It makes the local daily news if someone jaywalks.   Front doors at the school were locked at all times, I couldn't even get in without presenting an ID and being on a "list"

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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:21 PM

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As a grandfather of a 9 year old, I can't imagine what the families in CT are dealing with and my heart breaks for them,   Nothing can justify such a senseless act, truly a tragedy of epic proportions.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:21 PM

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Dammm Ford that is a pretty cold and detached way of looking at since we are talking about very young children here in the spring of their lives!!!! 

Those of you trying to analyze and figure out how this could of happened and provide your empty insight on what you would of done and how things are somewhere else in the world with regards to safety ... this is not the time !!!!

We should all reflect and mourn the lives lost senselessly on this day.

I have three very young children of my own and my heart sank when I heard this, there is nothing that can be said that can console these folks now

All we can do is pray and hug our loved ones a little tighter tonight ,and tell them we love them ... Because we are definitely living in trying times
CoachFord wrote:
No25juice wrote: Ford ur a very smart man! It just seems more of this kind of stuff is going to happen more and more. American culture has moved away from being a God fearing, serve your neighbors and value work ethic...instead it's I'll do what ever I want and if i can get it for doing nothing I'd rather do that. Church what the hell is that?!! This is truly heartbreaking and those of us that have kids had our hearts drop when we heard about this! Ford if it's not against the law I'd seriously consider carrying a concealed if you're the first door off the street!!!!! Thoughts and prayers to the families effected by this tragedy!!



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I just see it as math at work. There are 310,000,000 people in the U.S. and about one to two percent of them would be diagnosed as psychopaths. If just 1 out of every 1,000 became a shooter that would still be over 3,000 shootings per year in American due to that alone. Add the ease it is to get around and find large groups of people in small areas, bad things are going to happen.

Ford

Posted: 12/14/2012 12:33 PM

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LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?
I'm done posting on that thread. I made my points on the SEC and ESPN and am comfortable leaving them behind either way. 
I may be posting Fresno State-related information on this board as soon as later today. But right now I can't take my eyes off of CNN. This tragedy provided me with a lot of perspective.
I figured that would be your answer.  The massacre is only important to you today and you don't want to actually do anything to positively influence others in our society.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:49 PM

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FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?
I'm done posting on that thread. I made my points on the SEC and ESPN and am comfortable leaving them behind either way. 
I may be posting Fresno State-related information on this board as soon as later today. But right now I can't take my eyes off of CNN. This tragedy provided me with a lot of perspective.
I figured that would be your answer.  The massacre is only important to you today and you don't want to actually do anything to positively influence others in our society.
eek1
Great comeback.  How about you take me up on my offer?  No posting on the Barkboard for either of us for 6 months and we use that extra time to work with children in our respective communities.  Does that sound crazy to you?

Last edited 12/14/2012 12:53 PM by LorenzoNeal

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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:10 PM

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Anonymous wrote: Dammm Ford that is a pretty cold and detached way of looking at since we are talking about very young children here in the spring of their lives!!!! 

You miss my point then. Bad things have always happened. The more people, the more bad things--whether you are talking about minor offenses or horrific crimes.

The massacre I spoke of took the lives of two parents of former students and friends of friends. This current massacre took the lives of students and teachers. I am not very detached at all.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:12 PM

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anointed1sux wrote: How the hell does a guy like this get in to the school?  The elementary school where my daughter attended was like Fort Knox and I live in an extremely low crime area. It makes the local daily news if someone jaywalks.   Front doors at the school were locked at all times, I couldn't even get in without presenting an ID and being on a "list"

this school is in a township, and is about the size of large tract home that's it.  There might be a half dozen rooms in the building.  There is no security.......  When I first saw it I thought it was a day care center, or a small private school.

The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common.  They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:17 PM

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LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?
I'm done posting on that thread. I made my points on the SEC and ESPN and am comfortable leaving them behind either way. 
I may be posting Fresno State-related information on this board as soon as later today. But right now I can't take my eyes off of CNN. This tragedy provided me with a lot of perspective.
I figured that would be your answer.  The massacre is only important to you today and you don't want to actually do anything to positively influence others in our society.
eek1
Great comeback.  How about you take me up on my offer?  No posting on the Barkboard for either of us for 6 months and we use that extra time to work with children in our respective communities.  Does that sound crazy to you?
Coming on a Fresno State sports message board, minutes after we engaged on a discussion that became heated, and now conveniently you are questioning my character.... yes it does sound crazy due to the manner and timing in which you've gotten here. Would you have called me out if we hadn't sparred in another thread from a couple hours ago when you ended it by referring to me as a "di&k"? 

I am not ashamed whatsoever in my place in our society and my contributions that I've made in the past to where I have lived and live now. You crossed the line and should be ashamed of yourself.

If you want to vow to not post about Fresno State sports in addition to your work with children to make a point, that's wonderful. But I don't know you personally and what you do outside of this rather trivial forum, and nor do I care to just as I would hope no one else  in the Bark Board community is worried about what I do outside of our harmless discussions about sports. 

But whether I started volunteering in my hometown or not has ZERO to do with myself contributing to the discussion as a proud Fresno State graduate and fan of its sports teams. And whenever I do something to help someone else, I don't have any intention to let  someone who I only know as a fellow message board poster know about it. I am comfortable with who I am as a human being, but it is frankly none of your business. Just as it's none of my business to question what kind of person you may be.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:23 PM

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My heart is broken for the kids and their loved ones. As a father of two girls, one in the 1st grade and the other in the 5th I can only imagine how these families feel. May God bless all affected by this and help comfort them during this time. You can bet that my kids will get an extra long hug when they get home from school tonight, I hope each on this board will do the same.

Posted: 12/14/2012 1:24 PM

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CaliforniaStateBulldogs wrote: Apparently his mom worked there. He killed her, the principal, another family member away from the school and 20 plus kids. That guy snapped. December is a depressing time for many people. Very tragic.

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How the hell does a guy like this get in to the school?  The elementary school where my daughter attended was like Fort Knox and I live in an extremely low crime area. It makes the local daily news if someone jaywalks.   Front doors at the school were locked at all times, I couldn't even get in without presenting an ID and being on a "list"

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December?  Are you kidding me?  This kid was obviousily a fricking twisted loser and this didn't happen because "December is a depressing time for some people." That is complete joke.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:36 PM

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Anonymous wrote: Dammm Ford that is a pretty cold and detached way of looking at since we are talking about very young children here in the spring of their lives!!!! 

Those of you trying to analyze and figure out how this could of happened and provide your empty insight on what you would of done and how things are somewhere else in the world with regards to safety ... this is not the time !!!!

We should all reflect and mourn the lives lost senselessly on this day.

I have three very young children of my own and my heart sank when I heard this, there is nothing that can be said that can console these folks now

All we can do is pray and hug our loved ones a little tighter tonight ,and tell them we love them ... Because we are definitely living in trying times
CoachFord wrote:
No25juice wrote: Ford ur a very smart man! It just seems more of this kind of stuff is going to happen more and more. American culture has moved away from being a God fearing, serve your neighbors and value work ethic...instead it's I'll do what ever I want and if i can get it for doing nothing I'd rather do that. Church what the hell is that?!! This is truly heartbreaking and those of us that have kids had our hearts drop when we heard about this! Ford if it's not against the law I'd seriously consider carrying a concealed if you're the first door off the street!!!!! Thoughts and prayers to the families effected by this tragedy!!



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I just see it as math at work. There are 310,000,000 people in the U.S. and about one to two percent of them would be diagnosed as psychopaths. If just 1 out of every 1,000 became a shooter that would still be over 3,000 shootings per year in American due to that alone. Add the ease it is to get around and find large groups of people in small areas, bad things are going to happen.

Ford
What are you talking about?
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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:43 PM

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LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote:
LorenzoNeal wrote:
FresnoStater wrote: At least for me, I'm done with bickering about the influence ESPN has on the SEC. It seems beyond trivial given what's happened at the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. and the horrifying death toll that's being reported. What a world we live in. Hug your loved ones tightly today, friends.
I truly hope you are being sincere because I feel the same way.  I could walk away from this easily.  My gut tells me though that you'll be back posting within a few days.  How about neither of us post for 6 months and use that extra time to be a positive influence on children in our communities?  I'm serious. Are you up for it?
I'm done posting on that thread. I made my points on the SEC and ESPN and am comfortable leaving them behind either way. 
I may be posting Fresno State-related information on this board as soon as later today. But right now I can't take my eyes off of CNN. This tragedy provided me with a lot of perspective.
I figured that would be your answer.  The massacre is only important to you today and you don't want to actually do anything to positively influence others in our society.
eek1
Great comeback.  How about you take me up on my offer?  No posting on the Barkboard for either of us for 6 months and we use that extra time to work with children in our respective communities.  Does that sound crazy to you?
How about you do all that and still find time for us. is barkboard keeping you from helping the community?
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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:44 PM

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I cannot believe that something like this would happen and people would come on here to argue about one anothers posts.  The posts don't matter, what took place does.  Maybe focus on what's important here and not if someone said something to your liking or not.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:52 PM

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Basically STFU about what you think and just reflect on the lives lost ... basically saying people die every day because there lots of people is a detached way of looking at it period!!!

"I see it as math at work " really SMH" If that is not a detached way of looking at 20 kids being killed I dont know what is DAWG!

hyedawg wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Dammm Ford that is a pretty cold and detached way of looking at since we are talking about very young children here in the spring of their lives!!!! 

Those of you trying to analyze and figure out how this could of happened and provide your empty insight on what you would of done and how things are somewhere else in the world with regards to safety ... this is not the time !!!!

We should all reflect and mourn the lives lost senselessly on this day.

I have three very young children of my own and my heart sank when I heard this, there is nothing that can be said that can console these folks now

All we can do is pray and hug our loved ones a little tighter tonight ,and tell them we love them ... Because we are definitely living in trying times
CoachFord wrote:
No25juice wrote: Ford ur a very smart man! It just seems more of this kind of stuff is going to happen more and more. American culture has moved away from being a God fearing, serve your neighbors and value work ethic...instead it's I'll do what ever I want and if i can get it for doing nothing I'd rather do that. Church what the hell is that?!! This is truly heartbreaking and those of us that have kids had our hearts drop when we heard about this! Ford if it's not against the law I'd seriously consider carrying a concealed if you're the first door off the street!!!!! Thoughts and prayers to the families effected by this tragedy!!



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I just see it as math at work. There are 310,000,000 people in the U.S. and about one to two percent of them would be diagnosed as psychopaths. If just 1 out of every 1,000 became a shooter that would still be over 3,000 shootings per year in American due to that alone. Add the ease it is to get around and find large groups of people in small areas, bad things are going to happen.

Ford
What are you talking about?
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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:53 PM

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Close thread ... Nuff Said!!!!
nscfsu wrote: I cannot believe that something like this would happen and people would come on here to argue about one anothers posts.  The posts don't matter, what took place does.  Maybe focus on what's important here and not if someone said something to your liking or not.