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Michigan-MSU Weekend (A Little History Too)

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Posted: 1/31/2013 5:15 PM

Michigan-MSU Weekend (A Little History Too) 


1980-81

That is the last time that both Michigan and MSU missed out on the NCAA Tournament. We were in the midst of a 13 year tourney drought, Red wasn't arriving for a couple more years. Ron Mason was in his second season and was set to start a run of finishing 1st or 2nd in the conference in 8 of the next 9 seasons. 

1990-91

Fast forward 10 years and Red has made the program respectable again but we still can't crack the postseason. Ron Mason has MSU running like a machine. A conference dynasty at the least. Since taking over, he's guided them to 9 tourney births, 7 CCHA tourney crowns, 4 regular season conf crowns, 4 Frozen Fours and a National Championship. However,  the tables are about to turn slightly. 

2000

Red Berenson is a god. So is Ron Mason. While Michigan clearly dominated in the 90s with 6 Frozen Fours, 2 NC, 6 conf titles, 4 conf tourney titles, MSU is still no slouch as they're a regular in the NCAAs and added a couple CCHA regular season and tourney titles themselves. Mason is about to retire and the rivalry has seen it's peak. Both programs are pumping players into the NHL. Life is good for these two programs and they don't show signs of stopping

2010-11

Michigan St was plagued by inconsistency throughout the decade but were able to put it together in 2007 to win a national title. Comley is in his last year and has not left the program in a good place, however, they do retrn to the NCAAs the following season. Michigan is still a powerhouse under Red with 4 Frozen Fours and we're about to make a magical near-title run with Tiny ***** in goal. We lose in heartbreaking fashion as OT in the NCAAs just seems to have our number. Still, we don't show many signs of slowing down and should continue to be a contender until Red retires. 

2012-13

It's been over 30 years since it last happened, but both programs are staring it in the eyes. MSU at least had the Comley years to prepare them for this but for us Michigan fans, it's hit us like a train. It still hasn't sunk in quite yet, but barring a miraculous conference tourney, I won't see the winged helmets in the NCAA Tournament, something that I've only seen happen twice in my life - while I was an infant and a couple months after my 1st birthday. I don't know what I'll do.

Both programs are in the basement of the conference, something that should never happen with such prestigious programs. The rivalry is pretty even head-to-head in its entire history. however, neither program seems to share the spotlight. Other than the late 90s and 2007, one is on top while the other is catching up. Rivalry games are pretty much all either program have to play for this season. Maybe it's not as exciting and raucous as it was in the 90s, but I'll still get satisfaction if we kick their ***. 

The boys need to play with some pride. It's probably not going to be pretty hockey, but it'll still be enjoyable to watch for me since it's pretty much all we've got left this season. The games are televised this weekend. Friday on BTN at 6:30, Saturday on FSD at 4
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Posted: 1/31/2013 10:02 PM

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Excellent post. Wish this season was a dream, but it isn't.

The last time I experienced this, I was walking the campus in 1980 as a freshman. I wasn't until my redshirt fifth year in school (1984-85) that we had a coach that would turn things around.

It was 8 seasons later that we finally made it back to the dance. 

Been there, done that- don't want to go through it again. 

Just think of the glory stretch we had as fans, though:

1996 Hockey NC
1997 Football NC / FF-hockey
1998 Hockey NC

It hasn't been close to that since, although we flirted with national championships in 2008 and 2011. 

Let's hope that this season is just an anomaly, or a coaching legend may see his era end. Our recruiting has faltered, and our aura is fading. According to several sources, a turnover of the roster is expected- early departures and a possible new goaltender being recruited. 

Stay tuned.
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Posted: 1/31/2013 11:58 PM

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We've been spoiled a bit for sure. In 12 seasons b/w 92-03, we made the FF 9 times. Amazing. Something that only BC can really match in recent history.

I think in the long term, we'll be alright b/c the AD will support the hockey program and DB has made very good hires in alot of sports. But the near future is a concern. I could see us bouncing back, but I could see us struggling for the next few years too.

Either way, it's been a great run and something we'll always have to look back on.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 2:00 AM

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Yost it was been a long time since we have heard from you. Why do you think we have fallen so badly this year? I get the fall was bound to happen but like you said not this far no way. Does this season speed up red leaving early? No saying he should just wondering how much this wears on him.

Do you see us improving next year? The goalie situation is a mess. We lose 5 guys guarantee to graduation. Anyone leaving early? Trouba and Merrill? I do not see them coming back. Why would they? Is this a major rebuild job? If so should red be the one to rebuild especially if he is gone in 2 years? Again not saying he should. I am on the fence. If this is not a major rebuild then am ok with him but if it is should it not be the next coach. I know you will be careful what you wish for am not wishing for anything. I would love we come out next year strong and when it all for Red. I feel the rebuild job a good question.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:30 PM

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I think we outplayed them the first period. Just made a bad turnover and we paid. You can tell why these teams are at the bottom though. Gotta take advantage of our chances in the second. Down 1-0
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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:44 PM

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Also, we are wearing throwbacks and, maybe it is just my tv, but they look like actual MAIZE
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Posted: 2/1/2013 8:13 PM

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Got the game back to a tie. Dominated another period but could not pull ahead. Sparta goalie is having a good game. MSU not challenging Rutledge a ton, but he has looked ok to me. Could just be the competition. Should be an exciting third
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Posted: 2/1/2013 8:31 PM

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Boo Nieves put us ahead on a pp goal but MSU answered right back. Boo came back with his second so 3-2 good guys. Game is getting up and down a bit now too
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Posted: 2/1/2013 8:53 PM

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Good win over our ******!
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:44 PM

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Great game tonight. Yost was like it always is when we beat the Spartoons. Let's start a run now!

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Posted: 2/2/2013 12:37 AM

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Win tomorrow and we have our first winning streak since October crazy

Also, here's a link to a good Michigan hockey blog I've been reading recently: link

Here's another good one: link

And another: link

Just thought I'd add them for people looking for more info on Michigan hockey and to hopefully generate more discussion here. We've got a few regulars here and I appreciate all of them.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 2:12 PM

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Thanks for the links!
bacon1431 wrote: Win tomorrow and we have our first winning streak since October crazy

Also, here's a link to a good Michigan hockey blog I've been reading recently: link

Here's another good one: link

And another: link

Just thought I'd add them for people looking for more info on Michigan hockey and to hopefully generate more discussion here. We've got a few regulars here and I appreciate all of them.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:47 PM

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Up 2-0 at first intermission! PP goal and a shorthander. Rutledge looked good in this one
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Posted: 2/2/2013 6:31 PM

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Good performance today. 5-2 win. Hope it is a sign of things to come and not just a result of a poor opponent. 4-1 vs MSU this season, you take that any year!!

Rutledge looked good to me today. Let in a softy off a hustle play by the MSU cap'n, but other than that it looks like he's gaining some confidence. That is the biggest factor on how I'll feel about the program heading into next season. We'll lose Trouba and Merrill for sure. Downing should be a solid player as a freshman. Forwards should be fine even with some attrition. Need Rutledge to be the man for us!
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Posted: 2/3/2013 12:41 PM

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Tape a broom to the car, Nellie. There's been a sweep!

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