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Posted: 5/30/2014 12:26 PM

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Posted: 5/30/2014 12:37 PM

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photheknow wrote: is this dude legit?

https://twitter.com/davidubben...394537088712704
Yes.  

He is a columnist and TV analyst for Fox Sports Southwest.  Before that he was the Big12 columnist for ESPN.


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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:18 PM

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Bowlsby - "We are distributing 10 ways. Our distributable revenue in the coming years will climb to $40 million per school." #Big12Strong



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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:29 PM

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IRVING (AP) - Big 12 Conference schools will share record revenue of just more than $220 million for the 2013-14 school year.

Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said Friday at the end of the league’s spring meetings that the eight continuing members of the Big 12 will get about $23 million each. Those schools are Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech. Second-year league members TCU and West Virginia, who will become fully vested Big 12 members in two years, will get about $14 million each.

The amount of distributable revenue, an increase from $198 million last year, was about $7.8 million more than expected. That $7.8 million will go into a reserve fund that could be used for legal or unforeseen expenses.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/0...illion-revenue/

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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:42 PM

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Despite being one of the primary victims in the flurry of conference realignment, the Big 12 continued to show its stability under commissioner Bob Bowlsby by reporting a record $220.1 million in distribution revenue Friday at the conclusion of the conference's spring meetings.

The eight remaining charter members of the Big 12 each collected $1 million more than they did last year -- totaling $23 million apiece -- in distribution, with the bulk of the money coming in via TV contracts, bowl games and NCAA basketball tournament appearances.

Second-year members TCU and West Virginia received two-thirds of the full share, or $14 million each. Both schools agreed to smaller distributions as part of a four-year, phase-in agreement that will conclude in 2015-16.

Bowlsby said the league opted to withhold $7.8 million of the $220.1 million for operating revenue, but that the money could be distributed to members down the line.

This month, the Big Ten reported almost $26 million in distribution to its schools; the Pac-12 handed out just under $20 million in distribution to its members.

http://espn.go.com/college-spo...rd-220m-revenue

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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:44 PM

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Big12 $23M plus Tier 3 Monies = Homerun
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Posted: 5/30/2014 1:53 PM

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Here are more details:

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Commission Bob Bowlsby said eight schools will receive $23 million and West Virginia and TCU, league newcomers that are begin phased into the conference distribution structure, will get about $14 million.

The revenue is generated largely by television contracts, bowl games and NCAA Tournament income.

The total is a record amount. Last year, the Big 12 passed out $198 million to its members.

Bowlsby said next year, the schools’ share is expected to rise by about $3 million each because of TV contracts and the new College Football Playoff.

The distribution announced on Friday does not include the annual income schools receive from their third tier television rights.

Each school has its own network. In Kansas, there’s the Jayhawk Network and KStateHD.TV. Kansas receives about $6 million and K-State about $3 million annually from those networks. Texas gets about $15 million from The Longhorn Network.

Bowlsby said that the TV deals with ESPN and Fox through 2025 will contribute to greater income to the schools through the years.

“Our distributable revenue in the coming years will climb to $40 million per school,” Bowlsby said.

http://www.kansascity.com/2014...ord-income.html


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/30/5055663/big-1 2-to-distribute-record-income.html#storylink=cpy
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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:04 PM

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boy, this league is in deep doodoo.  excited
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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:14 PM

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sec just released

$309.6 million total distribution

$20.64 per school, as sec office gets 1/15 of a share

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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:14 PM

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So with Tier 3 TV money figured in (which is what other conferences are reporting with), Big 12 charter members received between $26-$38 million this year and TCU/WVU received about $17 million.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:22 PM

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texasjeremy wrote: So with Tier 3 TV money figured in (which is what other conferences are reporting with), Big 12 charter members received between $26-$38 million this year and TCU/WVU received about $17 million.
Read it and weep Tigers and Aggies
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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:34 PM

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we obviously need to add byu and uconn.  disbelief
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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:38 PM

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photheknow wrote: sec just released

$309.6 million total distribution

$20.64 per school, as sec office gets 1/15 of a share

Not including bowl money.


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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:43 PM

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BillyBooger wrote:
photheknow wrote: sec just released

$309.6 million total distribution

$20.64 per school, as sec office gets 1/15 of a share

Not including bowl money.

It includes all Bowl Money!

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.c...stribution.aspx

"  The total distribution amount is comprised of revenue generated from televised football, bowls, the SEC Football Championship, televised basketball, the SEC Men’s Basketball Tournament, NCAA Championships and a supplemental surplus distribution. "


The " bowl money retained by participants " is often a loss for the schools, same line for Pac, Big, Big12, and Acc

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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:49 PM

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I have to say those are pretty encouraging numbers.   We can argue details, but doesn't look like there will be much of a per school revenue discrepancy between the Big 12 and other conference in the next decade or so. That is is a significant stabilizing force.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 2:57 PM

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buckaineer wrote:

IRVING (AP) - Big 12 Conference schools will share record revenue of just more than $220 million for the 2013-14 school year.

Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said Friday at the end of the league’s spring meetings that the eight continuing members of the Big 12 will get about $23 million each. Those schools are Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech. Second-year league members TCU and West Virginia, who will become fully vested Big 12 members in two years, will get about $14 million each.

The amount of distributable revenue, an increase from $198 million last year, was about $7.8 million more than expected. That $7.8 million will go into a reserve fund that could be used for legal or unforeseen expenses.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/0...illion-revenue/


Very interesting that the league chose to stash $7.8M for legal or unforseen expenses.  Sounds like they see some type of legal battle in the near future.  That would seem like either expansion or separation. 

Next year with the championship money, Sugar and Select Bowl money we will easily top $30M a school, more likely to be close to $35M.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 3:21 PM

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3GFrog wrote: I have to say those are pretty encouraging numbers.   We can argue details, but doesn't look like there will be much of a per school revenue discrepancy between the Big 12 and other conference in the next decade or so. That is is a significant stabilizing force.
particularly when horns don't share their network take.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 3:44 PM

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photheknow wrote: Big12 $23M plus Tier 3 Monies = Homerun


The  'homerun' you're trumpeting will be a routine pop-fly in the coming years.  You do recognize this, right?

The 3 super-equity conferences creating new avenues of money making and the big12 and acc are doing next to nothing (save for UT & ND).

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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:15 PM

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yuppp wrote:
photheknow wrote: Big12 $23M plus Tier 3 Monies = Homerun


The  'homerun' you're trumpeting will be a routine pop-fly in the coming years.  You do recognize this, right?

The 3 super-equity conferences creating new avenues of money making and the big12 and acc are doing next to nothing (save for UT & ND).


And the Big XII will keep getting that bonus pop of $5M to $9M per team.  So next year when the league distributes $35M that bump will still be there.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:16 PM

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yuppp wrote:
photheknow wrote: Big12 $23M plus Tier 3 Monies = Homerun


The  'homerun' you're trumpeting will be a routine pop-fly in the coming years.  You do recognize this, right?

The 3 super-equity conferences creating new avenues of money making and the big12 and acc are doing next to nothing (save for UT & ND).

I used to agree, but now not so sure, if Bowlsby is right and the league approaches 40 million per school in the near future.  Seems like that is in line with the increases those leagues are expecting in the future years.
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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:31 PM

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NJAggie wrote:
yuppp wrote:
photheknow wrote: Big12 $23M plus Tier 3 Monies = Homerun


The  'homerun' you're trumpeting will be a routine pop-fly in the coming years.  You do recognize this, right?

The 3 super-equity conferences creating new avenues of money making and the big12 and acc are doing next to nothing (save for UT & ND).


And the Big XII will keep getting that bonus pop of $5M to $9M per team.  So next year when the league distributes $35M that bump will still be there.
You are predicting that Big12 revenues next year will be in excess off $350M?
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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:39 PM

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3GFrog wrote: 

I used to agree, but now not so sure, if Bowlsby is right and the league approaches 40 million per school in the near future.  Seems like that is in line with the increases those leagues are expecting in the future years.

If by near you mean 20 years, then yeah you're right. When I heard Bowlsby on sports radio here in KC, he said each team would approach $40 million towards the end of their contract (20-years).


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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:43 PM

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Holy cashamoly!!! So basically,  my Iowa State Cyclones will be making several million more dollars than schools like Alabama and Florida. Further, looking ahead to revenues in the 40 to 45 million dollar range over the next decade...is simply astounding. Things are looking VERY good, and very stable, for the Big 12! 
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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:50 PM

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AZCyclone wrote:
Holy cashamoly!!! So basically,  my Iowa State Cyclones will be making several million more dollars than schools like Alabama and Florida. Further, looking ahead to revenues in the 40 to 45 million dollar range over the next decade...is simply astounding. Things are looking VERY good, and very stable, for the Big 12! 

This is why you don't walk away from the conference w/ the UofTeja$ in it. More important to you Clones, though, is it keeps up w/ the B1G and Iowa.

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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:51 PM

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This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, but great news none the less.

Wonder how long it takes for LSU and other power players to get sick of carrying 11 other team's water?  We have the model that gives schools control of their future. 

The money gap will widen once the distribution model (read fiber and ultra high speed internet) becomes more accessible and we can distribute just as widely as ESPN/FOX but keep all the money, minus production costs.  Trust me, ESPN isn't locking up conferences for 20 years without a guaranteed payout because they are in the charity business.  This is common sense 101.  

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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:54 PM

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yuppp wrote:
photheknow wrote: Big12 $23M plus Tier 3 Monies = Homerun


The  'homerun' you're trumpeting will be a routine pop-fly in the coming years.  You do recognize this, right?

The 3 super-equity conferences creating new avenues of money making and the big12 and acc are doing next to nothing (save for UT & ND).

I don't think hanging on to Teja$ and downsizing to meet the budget is exactly a bad business model. On Wall Street they'd call it retrenching and simplifying or some such nonsense. Now, w/ things stabilized, we need to start orienting college athletics as we see it rather than sitting on our arses and letting the B1G/SEC set the business model.

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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:56 PM

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kinsleycat wrote:
texasjeremy wrote: So with Tier 3 TV money figured in (which is what other conferences are reporting with), Big 12 charter members received between $26-$38 million this year and TCU/WVU received about $17 million.
Read it and weep Tigers and Aggies
Missoura and aTm, arse kissers of the finest order. Always need a master. They're gonna regret wandering off down to Dixie and giving up their roots.

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Posted: 5/30/2014 4:58 PM

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big12 schools are making more than any other conference.  ku gets this $23mm plus their $6-9mm in tier 3 for that one&done nba basketball show they put on each winter for all the whores and celebs in kc. so don't be tellin' me they're going to downsize ole hairpiece's program anytime while he's still jivin' in larry.  plus, you all have to payoff all those football coaches from days gone by like the remarkable turn-here-gill.

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Posted: 5/30/2014 5:09 PM

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OsawatomieBrown wrote: 

They're gonna regret wandering off down to Dixie and giving up their roots.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

I can promise you that will never happen.


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Posted: 5/30/2014 5:27 PM

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BillyBooger wrote:
OsawatomieBrown wrote: 

They're gonna regret wandering off down to Dixie and giving up their roots.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

I can promise you that will never happen.


i agree!

my aggie friend actually said he would be happier losing in the Sec than the Big12,    and i laughed!
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