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This is what you get Big East, we tried to warn you

Posted: 12/11/2012 8:00 AM

This is what you get Big East, we tried to warn you 


heck, we tried to HELP you ...

Now the rest of you can suck rocks

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/ey e-on-college-basketball/21353826/big-easts-non-foo tball-members-meet-discuss-possible-breakaway

 



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Posted: 12/11/2012 8:49 AM

RE: This is what you get Big East, we tried to warn you 


I hope every single one is held to the full buyout.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 9:08 AM

Re: This is what you get Big East, we tried to warn you 



JasonMD wrote: heck, we tried to HELP you ...

Now the rest of you can suck rocks

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/ey e-on-college-basketball/21353826/big-easts-non-foo tball-members-meet-discuss-possible-breakaway
Soooo...THEY killed eastern football and now they want their own league?

Hope all those "basketball credits" stay with the old league since that is the argument they made to keep the original football schools from breaking away back when raid 1 was about to be a reverse raid on FSU, Clemson, MD, and GT.

And yes.  Pony up those buyouts now!
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Posted: 12/11/2012 10:00 AM

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John Marinatto killed the BEast plain and simple.  This is the legacy he has left behind.


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Posted: 12/11/2012 2:22 PM

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ERRbilly wrote: John Marinatto killed the BEast plain and simple.  This is the legacy he has left behind.

Marinatto just drove home the final nails.  The long-term viability of a football conference made up of eastern conference schools was doomed to a slow, inevitable death from the outset based primarily on two decisions:

1)  The conference's refusal to admit Penn State when they wanted to join for basketball in 1982 and then JoePa thumbing his nose at them when the Big East started playing football. 
2)  The idiotic decision to allow Notre Dame 'partial' membership in 1995.


The conference probably could have survived these stupid decisions had the ACC not raided the conference in 2003 and took Miami (who was considered one of the country's major players at the time), Virginia Tech, and Boston College.

The Big East scrambled & added Louisville, Cincy, USF (plus Marquette & DePaul) - immediately becoming stronger in basketball but simply survivng in football. 

Remember that first year after Miami left?  The suckfest tie for the conference championship with Pitt going to the BCS and getting their rear ends handed to them by Utah.  The conference was on life support until something wonderful (for WVU fans) happened the next season.

WVU became a major power and a national draw in the ratings - the Big East Thursday night games became huge hits.  Winning the Sugar Bowl gave the Big East some credibility and "saved" the conference.  BCS wins the next two seasons by Louisville and WVU continued to keep the haters at bay.

The end of 2007 marked the high water mark for the new Big East conference though and the conference began its descent on 12/01/07 with a game in Morgantown.  The outcome of that game sealed the fate of the conference and eliminated the only opportunity that the new Big East would ever have to play for (and stand a good chance of winning) a BCS national championship.

WVU remained respectable but lost any national appeal that we had by becoming relatively boring (some would say unwatchable) under Bill Stewart.  Without WVU to prop the conference, the writing was on the wall and the Big East's fate was sealed when Pitt and Syracuse announced they were leaving the conference.

I really don't see anything that Marianotto could have done to save the Big East - he could've been less of a putz but it really wouldn't have changed anything.

My timeline for the demise of the Big East:
1)  1982:  Big East refutes Penn State's attempts to join
2)  1991:  Penn State returns the favor.
3)  1995:  Notre Dame 'conditionally' given Big East membership.
4)  2003:  Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College leave for ACC.
5)  2007:  12/01/07
6)  2010:  Pitt, Syracuse announce leaving for ACC, WVU follows to Big 12.
   
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:14 PM

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I think He could have saved it, or at the least made a really good attempt to do so. He could've thought big and I mean real big when he had the chance after the first raid.

tell the BB schools we are expanding and if you don't like it there's the Door and please let it hit you on the way out if that's how you feel.

Pull off the move to get Boise, Utah (before the pac12 eyed them, TCU (again this would've been before the Big12 needed them) Houston and SMU at this point the auto BCS Bid would've made all those schools jump to us in football.

It wouldn't have been a half bad conference but oh well
WVUandNAVY wrote:
ERRbilly wrote: John Marinatto killed the BEast plain and simple.  This is the legacy he has left behind.

Marinatto just drove home the final nails.  The long-term viability of a football conference made up of eastern conference schools was doomed to a slow, inevitable death from the outset based primarily on two decisions:

1)  The conference's refusal to admit Penn State when they wanted to join for basketball in 1982 and then JoePa thumbing his nose at them when the Big East started playing football. 
2)  The idiotic decision to allow Notre Dame 'partial' membership in 1995.


The conference probably could have survived these stupid decisions had the ACC not raided the conference in 2003 and took Miami (who was considered one of the country's major players at the time), Virginia Tech, and Boston College.

The Big East scrambled & added Louisville, Cincy, USF (plus Marquette & DePaul) - immediately becoming stronger in basketball but simply survivng in football. 

Remember that first year after Miami left?  The suckfest tie for the conference championship with Pitt going to the BCS and getting their rear ends handed to them by Utah.  The conference was on life support until something wonderful (for WVU fans) happened the next season.

WVU became a major power and a national draw in the ratings - the Big East Thursday night games became huge hits.  Winning the Sugar Bowl gave the Big East some credibility and "saved" the conference.  BCS wins the next two seasons by Louisville and WVU continued to keep the haters at bay.

The end of 2007 marked the high water mark for the new Big East conference though and the conference began its descent on 12/01/07 with a game in Morgantown.  The outcome of that game sealed the fate of the conference and eliminated the only opportunity that the new Big East would ever have to play for (and stand a good chance of winning) a BCS national championship.

WVU remained respectable but lost any national appeal that we had by becoming relatively boring (some would say unwatchable) under Bill Stewart.  Without WVU to prop the conference, the writing was on the wall and the Big East's fate was sealed when Pitt and Syracuse announced they were leaving the conference.

I really don't see anything that Marianotto could have done to save the Big East - he could've been less of a putz but it really wouldn't have changed anything.

My timeline for the demise of the Big East:
1)  1982:  Big East refutes Penn State's attempts to join
2)  1991:  Penn State returns the favor.
3)  1995:  Notre Dame 'conditionally' given Big East membership.
4)  2003:  Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College leave for ACC.
5)  2007:  12/01/07
6)  2010:  Pitt, Syracuse announce leaving for ACC, WVU follows to Big 12.

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