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So...we now negotiate with terrorists?...

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Posted: 6/1/2014 10:08 AM

So...we now negotiate with terrorists?... 


Five of the Most Dangerous Taliban Commanders in U.S. Custody Exchanged for American Captive...

I think this sets a dangerous precedent, thoughts?..  


http://www.weeklystandard.com/...nge_794017.html

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Posted: 6/1/2014 10:26 AM

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I am glad the soldier is home but these guys are Taliban LEADERS
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Posted: 6/1/2014 10:27 AM

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I would like to know why he wondered off the base prior to his capture? The whole thing is suspicious.
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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:09 PM

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I thought our foreign policy precluded negotiations with terrorists.

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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:20 PM

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LongTimeeer wrote: I thought our foreign policy precluded negotiations with terrorists.
 
We didn't used to "lead from behind" either.  We used to lead.  The Founders are probably spinning in their graves.
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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:21 PM

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LBRYAN wrote: I would like to know why he wondered off the base prior to his capture? The whole thing is suspicious.
Yeah, he basically went AWOL, and now all of those other soldiers are at risk because of him. How many will die because he wandered off base and because Obama does whatever he wants to?
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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:31 PM

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LBRYAN wrote: I would like to know why he wondered off the base prior to his capture? The whole thing is suspicious.
Yeah, he basically went AWOL, and now all of those other soldiers are at risk because of him. How many will die because he wandered off base and because Obama does whatever he wants to?

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Obama doesn't care about people dying look at the VA..
This is purely an effort to get the media talking about something other than all his scandals and criminal behavior ...

The emperor has no clothes....
"Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?" TJ
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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:43 PM

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I just read some interesting tweets (posted on Facebook) from a guy he served with and was there the night he disappeared. Very, very suspicious.

PROUD NAVY MOM!

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Posted: 6/1/2014 12:59 PM

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eerlover wrote: I just read some interesting tweets (posted on Facebook) from a guy he served with and was there the night he disappeared. Very, very suspicious.
 
Can you tell us what they are implying, eerlover?
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Posted: 6/1/2014 1:08 PM

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blugldmn wrote:

Obama doesn't care about people dying look at the VA..
This is purely an effort to get the media talking about something other than all his scandals and criminal behavior ...

The emperor has no clothes....
 

True, and even worse, he had no problem with sacrificing the lives of 36 Americans in Benghazi for the advancement of his political career.  And that’s how many would have died for Obama’s greed and naked ambition had it not been for the courage, skill, and exceptional bravery of our Navy SEALs, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, true American patriots, heroes, and better men than Obama will ever be.

 

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Posted: 6/1/2014 1:11 PM

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We just released death.

Bye, bye Afghanistan; I'm off to a fundraiser.


That white flag you see flying is the administration's Victory Flag.
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Posted: 6/1/2014 1:47 PM

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Here's bits and pieces, and again this is from an article posted on Facebook but it's from this guy's Tweets who served with him. Said the guy was a liar, always making stuff up like fighting in the French Foreign Legion, besting up
Drug dealers, etc. Said he ordered a gun like the Taliban carried, said cryptic things that made his comrades think he was planning on deserting, said he was going to make his way to China. He left out in the middle of the night, some village children said they saw a soldier crawling on his belly acting weird, and that there was some radio
Chatter about finding an American who wanted to meet with the Taliban. Again, not saying any if this is true,
Just what this guy tweeted.

PROUD NAVY MOM!

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Posted: 6/1/2014 2:47 PM

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Interesting, thanks.  And thank you for your son's service to our country.
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Posted: 6/1/2014 2:49 PM

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Thank- you. I'm happy he's home now. He got out in February.

PROUD NAVY MOM!

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Posted: 6/1/2014 2:52 PM

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There is more than one guy he served with stating this stuff publically. Guy goes AWOL and he is now rewarded for it.

This administration is disgusting if this all turns out to be true.

Kind of makes you wonder what he knew and why he is suddenly traded for top Taliban leaders.


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Here's bits and pieces, and again this is from an article posted on Facebook but it's from this guy's Tweets who served with him. Said the guy was a liar, always making stuff up like fighting in the French Foreign Legion, besting up
Drug dealers, etc. Said he ordered a gun like the Taliban carried, said cryptic things that made his comrades think he was planning on deserting, said he was going to make his way to China. He left out in the middle of the night, some village children said they saw a soldier crawling on his belly acting weird, and that there was some radio
Chatter about finding an American who wanted to meet with the Taliban. Again, not saying any if this is true,
Just what this guy tweeted.

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Posted: 6/1/2014 3:26 PM

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Found this on Corvetteforum.com while I was looking for the controversial deleted tweet from Bergdahl's father which said something about praying for the prisoners at Gitmo.


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Today 11:55 AM by ET
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From the men of this so called Hero's unit.....

"We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday."
****ing Traitor.........................
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Posted: 6/1/2014 3:43 PM

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Second soldier, Dan Witmer, comments about Bergdahl

Twitter ^ | Dan Witmer

  

This soldier, who served with Bergdahl, describes how Bergdahl DESERTED to join the Taliban, and how badly our troops suffered, were wounded, and 6 men in his own company died looking for him.

  

It sounds like this soldier is another John Kerry – he deserves to be hanged for high treason. 

  

Why did Hussein Obama save this traitor?  Because he will "always stand with his muslim brothers"?

  

And how ironic is it that at this very moment this deserter is receiving prompt and outstanding medical care at a military hospital, while honorable veterans who have served their country bravely and with distinction are placed on waiting lists for serious medical problems requiring urgent care and dying as a result of lack of prompt treatment?

 

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Posted: 6/1/2014 5:29 PM

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This board may be the one single most historically illiterate piece of real estate on the internet (quite an accomplishment).

Google "Guns for Hostages," the noble tale of how one of the most sainted figures in recent American history sent, among other things, Hawk and TOW missiles to "responsible" Iranians (yes, those Iranians) in a failed attempt to free American hostages held by Hezbollah.

He was one of "us' though, so I guess he gets a free pass.
 WestFork -- the P&R Board Voice of Reason since 21 March 2006.
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Posted: 6/1/2014 6:50 PM

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Gitmo still open? I thought it was closed 5 years ago



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Posted: 6/1/2014 7:31 PM

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Really?  So does this mean State Department officials are illiterate?  


The State Department was firm on Friday, when reporters asked whether the U.S. government was considering releasing Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, commonly known as “the Blind Sheikh,” the mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center attack.

“The United States does not negotiate with terrorists,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.


WestFork wrote: This board may be the one single most historically illiterate piece of real estate on the internet (quite an accomplishment).

Google "Guns for Hostages," the noble tale of how one of the most sainted figures in recent American history sent, among other things, Hawk and TOW missiles to "responsible" Iranians (yes, those Iranians) in a failed attempt to free American hostages held by Hezbollah.

He was one of "us' though, so I guess he gets a free pass.

Just a deck of cards and a jug of wine
And a woman's lies makes a life like mine.  HW

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