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Welcome our 1st Recruit

Posted: 3/12/2011 1:22 PM

Welcome our 1st Recruit 


Tim Carr, Goalie from Upstate NY.

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Posted: 3/12/2011 3:04 PM

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Welcome, Tim. I hope you have a great career here and can help build this hockey program into something special.

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Posted: 3/12/2011 4:30 PM

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Congrats guys. He's certainly an interesting prospect.
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Posted: 3/13/2011 3:34 PM

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Who recruited this kid? Does it seem a bit odd since there is no head coach yet? At least things are moving along.
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Posted: 3/13/2011 11:34 PM

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He gets it and so will many others, what a great place to play and get a degree!  I think Penn State will get some great players right away.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:13 PM

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psu45056 wrote: Who recruited this kid? Does it seem a bit odd since there is no head coach yet? At least things are moving along.
The current Icer's coaches are doing the recruiting until the staff is in place, and hopefully that is soon.  

And we are up to our 2nd commitment.
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Posted: 3/14/2011 6:24 PM

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rooster130 wrote: He gets it and so will many others, what a great place to play and get a degree!  I think Penn State will get some great players right away.
I agree with this as well and hope so for the sake of this program getting off to a solid start. they have all the resources the upper echelon of programs have.

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Posted: 3/15/2011 6:30 AM

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rooster130 wrote: I think Penn State will get some great players right away.

Maybe a couple from New York/New Jersey, but it doesn't really work like that. Hockey recruits are like football recruits, and know which schools have good programs, established coaches, a solid fanbase, and which teams put players in the NHL.
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Posted: 3/15/2011 7:59 AM

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NDqbsRoverated wrote:
rooster130 wrote: I think Penn State will get some great players right away.

Maybe a couple from New York/New Jersey, but it doesn't really work like that. Hockey recruits are like football recruits, and know which schools have good programs, established coaches, a solid fanbase, and which teams put players in the NHL.
Agree, ND.  But there will be some great kids willing to play for a highly respected coach in a new, exciting program and conference in a brand spanking new arena with some new fans.    That coach, when named fairly soon, will be a good one.   There won't be an exodus to PSU, but we will get a couple of surprising ones early.
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Posted: 3/15/2011 12:49 PM

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I agree. I think Penn State will do quite well on the recruiting front. The combination of great facilities, a good coach (presumably), and fine academics is going to make PSU a good destination. Plus, being able to help build the program from the ground up will also be enticing for some recruits.
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Posted: 3/17/2011 12:00 AM

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intersting that he will be able to play 5 years as his fr year wont count at d1 level-

i think u can get a decent 1st two recruiting classes esp. if you sell a kid on coming to school rather than doing another year in junior hockey like many schools do.

hockey recruiting is weird like that as a kid that graduates(17/18) can play hockey until turning 21
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Posted: 3/17/2011 7:24 AM

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rdez79 wrote: intersting that he will be able to play 5 years as his fr year wont count at d1 level-

i think u can get a decent 1st two recruiting classes esp. if you sell a kid on coming to school rather than doing another year in junior hockey like many schools do.

hockey recruiting is weird like that as a kid that graduates(17/18) can play hockey until turning 21
The only problem is that you can't put the kid on scholarship if he plays for the Icers.
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Posted: 3/17/2011 2:10 PM

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UncleLar wrote:
The only problem is that you can't put the kid on scholarship if he plays for the Icers.
or do you mean while?
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Posted: 3/18/2011 2:45 AM

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rdez79 wrote: intersting that he will be able to play 5 years as his fr year wont count at d1 level-

Right, because non-D1 hockey is technically a redshirt year.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 3:25 PM

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manatree wrote:
UncleLar wrote:
The only problem is that you can't put the kid on scholarship if he plays for the Icers.
or do you mean while?
why cant he be on scholarship?
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Posted: 3/18/2011 7:38 PM

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manatree wrote:
UncleLar wrote:
The only problem is that you can't put the kid on scholarship if he plays for the Icers.
or do you mean while?
Correct.  I should have said he can't be on ship while he is playing for the Icers.
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Posted: 3/18/2011 7:40 PM

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rdez79 wrote:
manatree wrote:
UncleLar wrote:
The only problem is that you can't put the kid on scholarship if he plays for the Icers.
or do you mean while?
why cant he be on scholarship?
Because the ACHA is for club teams and club teams can't have scholarship athletes competing for them.
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Posted: 3/19/2011 4:46 PM

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CowbellMan wrote:
NDqbsRoverated wrote:
rooster130 wrote: I think Penn State will get some great players right away.

Maybe a couple from New York/New Jersey, but it doesn't really work like that. Hockey recruits are like football recruits, and know which schools have good programs, established coaches, a solid fanbase, and which teams put players in the NHL.
Agree, ND.  But there will be some great kids willing to play for a highly respected coach in a new, exciting program and conference in a brand spanking new arena with some new fans.    That coach, when named fairly soon, will be a good one.   There won't be an exodus to PSU, but we will get a couple of surprising ones early.
I would tend to agree.  Obviously the top players are going to continue going to the top hockey programs, but Penn State should be able to get a few really good players who will see the opportunity for immediate playing time and the chance to be part of something new.




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Posted: 4/6/2011 9:01 AM

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Here's another recruit name linked to PSU:

www.saultthisweek.com/ArticleD....aspx?e=3061545

1994 birth year defenceman Nathan Glass (an OHL draft pick of the Erie Otters in 2010) and 1991 birth year winger Brock Raffaele are being pursued by Mercyhurst and Penn State respectively, according to sources with knowledge of the recruiting process.
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Posted: 4/7/2011 7:37 AM

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rdez79 wrote: intersting that he will be able to play 5 years as his fr year wont count at d1 level-

i think u can get a decent 1st two recruiting classes esp. if you sell a kid on coming to school rather than doing another year in junior hockey like many schools do.

hockey recruiting is weird like that as a kid that graduates(17/18) can play hockey until turning 21
You may need to clarify what you mean.  That is a rule for all sports, basically.  If you mean the player can graduate, and can play hockey somewhere non-professionally until 21 without losing eligibility and not being enrolled in college, you are correct.  But, that is true for every sport, including football or basketball.  A kid could choose not to go to college and play in some non-paying league somewhere if they choose.

However, when they turn 21, participation in that non-paying sport will then start using up college eligibility.  

If you mean something different, let me know.  I think this is the rule you are talking about but I'm not completely sure.

The kids that are coming now for hockey, are, for all intents and purposes, using a redshirt year and play for the icers.  Because the icers play in the ACHA, they cannot also have a scholarship.  If they did not play for the Icers, they could have a scholarship for this year in waiting.
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