Posted: 12/17/2012 10:18 PM
Marc Groff, the principal at Ventura St. Bonaventure, said he and athletic director John Muller made their case on Friday to Southern Section Commissioner Rob Wigod in a 30-minute presentation trying to convince Wigod to keep the Seraphs in the Northern area for placement of its sports program.
The Southern Section has put St. Bonaventure in the parochial area beginning in 2014, which would lead to a new league for all sports teams, creating travel and equity concerns.
Groff said Monday that his main issues were out-of-class time for students, geography and competitive equity.
"The F word wasn't mentioned one time," Groff said, referring to the Seraphs' outstanding football team. "I made it clear we're not putting up a fight about football."
St. Bonaventure understands that its football team belongs in the toughest league possible, but under CIF rules, a school's entire sports program must be in one area. And if the Seraphs are moved to the parochial area, that will produce severe hardships for other athletes in terms of travel and competition.
Groff said he also pointed out that St. Bonaventure is a commuter school, with the majority of its students coming from Camarillo, Oxnard and Ventura, which would create additional travel problems.
The Catholic Athletic Assn. scheduled a meeting for Monday among athletic directors to begin coming up with ideas for the formation of new leagues with or without St. Bonaventure and Oaks Christian, which is also appealing a decision to put its program in the parochial area.
-- Eric Sondheimer
Posted: 12/17/2012 10:34 PM
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Posted: 12/18/2012 6:38 AM
Beercat wrote: "Northern area" bird brainNot the Northern Division What Bonnie & Oaks are saying is there must be a Pac-5 league in the Northern area that isn't part of the Catholic association. If they get there way who will be the sacrificial lambs? Moorpark, Thousand Oaks??? A 5 team league that stays in the Pac-5? BonnieOaksWLMoorparkTOI bet CIFSS says no to their request. Might be best for Oaks & Bonnie to go freelance just like DLS. They could schedule accordingly just like the Spartans do. Play good (not stellar) teams for 10 weeks for good tuneup games and then get slotted in the Pac-5 playoffs all nice and healthy. I think that makes sense, it has worked well for DLS.
Posted: 12/18/2012 7:16 AM
Last edited 12/18/2012 7:16 AM by Beercat
Posted: 12/18/2012 9:05 AM
The decision to leave Westlake in the Northern Area hasalready been made by CIF. They will stay, JB played this season perfect. He sacrificed the senior’s season for the longterm goal of the program. If you look at the talent at that school, there is noway they should have finished so poorly. JB is the most calculated person Ihave ever met. He puts the fear of God in the staff at Westlake and theDistrict office. No one will cross him.
He was shunned by the Marmonte League a number of years ago,and that stopped the recruiting for a couple of years. After a 4-6 and 5-5season he went back to his old ways and they have been rolling ever since. Idon’t think the current AD’s or Principals in the Marmonte League have the gutsto take him on.
Posted: 12/18/2012 9:40 AM
RoyalFB hit the nail on the head. Watched most WL games on channel 20the offense was out of sink all season with personnel changes red zone play calling was really badJimmy appeared to be ok with poor play on tvdefense coughed up way too many points for talentanother AD third in five years was dismissedwish TO played WL this year when jimmy bags another season to stay putthe Lancer program needs to keep the TO kids for future successLeibin and staff do a good job with what they have to field
Posted: 12/18/2012 10:53 AM
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Posted: 12/18/2012 12:18 PM
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Posted: 12/18/2012 1:30 PM
Nadefan wrote: Looks like the Northern Div may get these teams back. Why not move the Mission and serra to the Northern div with the Marmonte top 6 , the bay and Sunset.Sunset #12 league in state this yearEdisonHBFVLANHMarinaMission #4 league in state 2012SerraNadeCathSFHWSPMarmonte would have been #3 league in state this year as is belowOaksWLSBTOMPNPBay#28 league in state, top league in Northern 2012PVMCRedondoWest TorrNorth TorrPVPSerra #1 league in state this yearAlemanyCrespiNDLoyolaBAThat should be more than enough competition for oaks and SB and they can stay in the Northern area for all other sports. Replace the Serra with the BigVIII in the Pac5Replace the Marmonte with the Southwestern league in the Pac5Replace the sunset with the Ocean league in the Southwest div.Western could consist of Pac7FoothillPac ViewChannelGoldenMarmonte 4
Posted: 12/18/2012 2:12 PM
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Posted: 12/18/2012 2:40 PM
Beercat wrote: Or .....................Maybe it is time to cut up CIFSS into lets say:CIF Orange County/east LA countyCIF Inland Empire - north to BishopCIF Northern LA/Ventura/Santa Barbara/SLO counties
Posted: 12/18/2012 2:47 PM
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