St. Bonaventure states its case to stay in Northern area

December 17, 2012 |  9:36 am

 

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Marc Groff, the principal at Ventura St. Bonaventure, said he and athletic director John Muller made their case on Friday to Southern Section Commissioner Rob Wigod in a 30-minute presentation trying to convince Wigod to keep the Seraphs in the Northern area for placement of its sports program.

The Southern Section has put St. Bonaventure in the parochial area beginning in 2014, which would lead to a new league for all sports teams, creating travel and equity concerns.

Groff said Monday that his main issues were out-of-class time for students, geography and competitive equity.

"The F word wasn't mentioned one time," Groff said, referring to the Seraphs' outstanding football team. "I made it clear we're not putting up a fight about football."

St. Bonaventure understands that its football team belongs in the toughest league possible, but under CIF rules, a school's entire sports program must be in one area. And if the Seraphs are moved to the parochial area, that will produce severe hardships for other athletes in terms of travel and competition.

Groff said he also pointed out that St. Bonaventure is a commuter school, with the majority of its students coming from Camarillo, Oxnard and Ventura, which would create additional travel problems.

The Catholic Athletic Assn. scheduled a meeting for Monday among athletic directors to begin coming up with ideas for the formation of new leagues with or without St. Bonaventure and Oaks Christian, which is also appealing a decision to put its program in the parochial area.

-- Eric Sondheimer

Beercat wrote: "Northern area" bird brain

Not the Northern Division

What Bonnie & Oaks are saying is there must be a Pac-5 league in the Northern area that isn't part of the Catholic association. If they get there way who will be the sacrificial lambs? Moorpark, Thousand Oaks??? A 5 team league that stays in the Pac-5?

Bonnie
Oaks
WL
Moorpark
TO

I bet CIFSS says no to their request. Might be best for Oaks & Bonnie to go freelance just like DLS. They could schedule accordingly just like the Spartans do. Play good (not stellar) teams for 10 weeks for good tuneup games and then get slotted in the Pac-5 playoffs all nice and healthy. I think that makes sense, it has worked well for DLS.

The decision to leave Westlake in the Northern Area has
already been made by CIF. They will stay, JB played this season perfect.  He sacrificed the senior’s season for the long
term goal of the program. If you look at the talent at that school, there is no
way they should have finished so poorly. JB is the most calculated person I
have ever met. He puts the fear of God in the staff at Westlake and the
District office. No one will cross him.

He was shunned by the Marmonte League a number of years ago,
and that stopped the recruiting for a couple of years. After a 4-6 and 5-5
season he went back to his old ways and they have been rolling ever since. I
don’t think the current AD’s or Principals in the Marmonte League have the guts
to take him on.

RoyalFB hit the nail on the head. Watched most WL games on channel 20
the offense was out of sink all season with personnel changes
red zone play calling was really bad
Jimmy appeared to be ok with poor play on tv
defense coughed up way too many points for talent
another AD third in five years was dismissed
wish TO played WL this year when jimmy bags another season to stay put
the Lancer program needs to keep the TO kids for future success
Leibin and staff do a good job with what they have to field

Nadefan wrote: Looks like the Northern Div may get these teams back.


Why not move the Mission and serra to the Northern div with the Marmonte top 6 , the bay and Sunset.


Sunset #12 league in state this year
Edison
HB
FV
LA
NH
Marina

Mission #4 league in state 2012
Serra
Nade
Cath
SF
HW
SP

Marmonte would have been #3 league in state this year as is below
Oaks
WL
SB
TO
MP
NP

Bay#28 league in state, top league in Northern 2012
PV
MC
Redondo
West Torr
North Torr
PVP

Serra #1 league in state this year
Alemany
Crespi
ND
Loyola
BA


That should be more than enough competition for oaks and SB and they can stay in the Northern area for all other sports. 



Replace the Serra with the BigVIII in the Pac5
Replace the Marmonte with the Southwestern league in the Pac5

Replace the sunset with the Ocean league in the Southwest div.

Western could consist of

Pac7
Foothill
Pac View
Channel
Golden
Marmonte 4

Beercat wrote: Or .....................

Maybe it is time to cut up CIFSS into lets say:

CIF Orange County/east LA county
CIF Inland Empire - north to Bishop
CIF Northern LA/Ventura/Santa Barbara/SLO counties