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HartIndians wrote: I've been on this board for 10 years and have enjoyed it. I have met many of you in person and wish all of you nothing but success and prosperity, even the posters that I have had disagreements with. I have finally decided to move myself and my family to our vacation home overseas. While I will still visit California to visit some family on occasion, the majority of my business interests will be shifted to Europe effective 2013. Thus, my move out of the US. While my family and I hoped and prayed that I will not be penalized for the blood, sweat, and tears that I gave to build 3 companies and employ over 260 people, last night's choice by the people forced me to move my efforts elsewhere. No hard feelings, no political crap......I just do not have the patience or stomach to digest the new penalties that I will accrue for doing nothing more then working my tail off.Over the last 11 years, I have donated over $400,000 to public high schools, youth sports programs, and sponsorship funds for college students with a parent who was disabled in military service. One of my biggest regrets is that I will not be able to continue these efforts on the same scale. Best wishes to all of you. Go Hart!
At least you have a vacation home in europe to move into. Many, many people in this country are living paycheck to paycheck trying to keep a roof over their heads, sweating, bleeding and crying as much if not more than you. Trying to buy a home in the USA .You know the song...."Hit the road Jack, and dont you come back......."Enjoy whatever great nation you will be living in, maybe your kids can become citizens there.
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SanityVsYou wrote: Taking your ball and going home (albeit a new home).I see it as an act of cowardice and frankly un-American.EnjoyAMF
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Beercat wrote: Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100…If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this…The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.The fifth would pay $1.The sixth would pay $3.The seventh would pay $7..The eighth would pay $12.The ninth would pay $18.The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.So, that’s what they decided to do..The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20″. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? The paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.“I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,”but he got $10!”“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
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Canyondad wrote: SanityVsYou wrote: Taking your ball and going home (albeit a new home).I see it as an act of cowardice and frankly un-American.EnjoyAMFUn-American?...What is so un-American about wanting to enjoy your success in peace and not always worrying about what are they going to come after next, hunderds of thousands of $ has been spent to try to convince people it is OK to take money from those who presumably can affor it...that is WRONG...The man has given more than he was required and now they want more...We are going find more and more people like HartIndians who are going to protect what is rightfully theirs by either moving out of this state, or for those how can afford it, out of the country. There is no cowardice in that, actually it take some balls to stand up for your rights and principles.
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PhishPhan11 wrote: Canyondad wrote: SanityVsYou wrote: Taking your ball and going home (albeit a new home).I see it as an act of cowardice and frankly un-American.EnjoyAMFUn-American?...What is so un-American about wanting to enjoy your success in peace and not always worrying about what are they going to come after next, hunderds of thousands of $ has been spent to try to convince people it is OK to take money from those who presumably can affor it...that is WRONG...The man has given more than he was required and now they want more...We are going find more and more people like HartIndians who are going to protect what is rightfully theirs by either moving out of this state, or for those how can afford it, out of the country. There is no cowardice in that, actually it take some balls to stand up for your rights and principles.What's so un-american about not wanting to live in the USA? Uhhhhhhhh...It's in line with why create jobs in the USA when we can just ship all of our work to China...it's cheaper right? Why pay more in the USA? Really? GTFO!!
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