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Who Has The Better Year: Kessler or Hundley?

Posted: 07/07/2014 9:12 AM

Who Has The Better Year: Kessler or Hundley? 



Given their stats for comparable years, it is not even that big of a limb for me to say - Kessler is going to dominate this year in the battle of QBs in LA.  MARK IT.

Hundley will be out of the Heisman discussion after the 3rd game of the season when UT's defense dominates them on a neutral field.  He will wish he had gone in to the draft.

Last edited 07/07/2014 9:17 AM by Grouler

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Posted: 07/07/2014 10:23 AM

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Hope you are correct G but I can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 10:37 AM

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hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.



You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  


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Posted: 07/07/2014 11:43 AM

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My GUESS is that, statistically, Hundley will have more yards, TD's, etc etc.  However, in terms of growth from 2013-2014, my money is on Kessler.  His growth potential is far greater than Hundley's.

As long as I am guessing, I would even venture that Hundley will not be in the "Top 10 QB" discussion by the end of the year.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 12:19 PM

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posted: today 10:23 am

re: who has the better year: kessler or hundley? 


hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.



You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  
Thanks, and right on Jay.  And, may I add, pretty much played the same 11 players on D the last few games of the season. 



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Posted: 07/07/2014 12:26 PM

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The problem for us this year we may be down to about the same amount of players by the end of the year ,we need to stay healthy to really have a great year ,.lets hope we can
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Posted: 07/07/2014 12:44 PM

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Posted: Today 12:26 PM

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The problem for us this year we may be down to about the same amount of players by the end of the year ,we need to stay healthy to really have a great year ,.lets hope we can




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Posted: 07/07/2014 12:45 PM

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Well I guess I have to play devil's advocate here because I think we had pretty much the same defense on the field that we had against Stanford and the defense played great.  Not sure we had any injuries on defense after that that affected the ucla game.  And we had pretty much the same guys on defense last year that will be on the field this year and Hundley made our defense look pretty silly, especially the lb'ers and d backs.  I know they can play better and scheme better and they will have to and I love Kessler but I think you are underrating Hundley. Frankly I hope he plays like crap.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 12:49 PM

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Kessler will have more passing yards and tds along with a better percentage  and more yards attempt. Hundley will have more rushing yards and rushing tds. It is whoever has a better record when the season is over.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 1:36 PM

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posted: today 10:23 am

re: who has the better year: kessler or hundley? 


hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.



You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  
LOL.. excuses, excuses, excuses....that's all you ever write..

UCLA was missing  MORE players that were STARTERS than USC was at kickoff... UCLA had more backup guys suited up available on the sideline; but this is the SC/UCLA game, where it's the starters who play.

USC's OL was completely intact the entire year all the way until midway through the 1st quarter of the UCLA game....not a single missed game for them.....  UCLA was down both starting OT's along with the #1 OT backup; so UCLA was starting 3 true Frosh OL's vs USC(and then one was kicked out for the skirmish, forcing a 3rd string player into the lineup at RT in the 1st quarter).. 

SC had all of their top WRs available: Lee, Aghalor, Rodgers, Flournoy...... had both TE's.... had Silas Redd, Tre Madden, Buck Allen, and Ty Isaac at RB; had the ENTIRE STARTING OL available.....

SC had every Front 7 starter playing BUT OLB/DE Breslin... had the entire starting secondary intact..... had both kicker and punter healthy....

USC was at full strength, and full health and got beat..... deal with it.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 2:01 PM

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UCLA's OL is a 'work in progress'.....

what exactly does that make USC's OL then?


UCLA has 6 Offensive linemen, who have started at least 5 games..... UCLA brought in a rs SR graduate transfer, who started 2 years at Miami to fill the LG position....

LT-Benenoch, So.(9 starts)
LG- Bunche, rsSR(2 yr starter at Miami)
C- Brendel, rs Jr (27 starts)
RG- Redmond, So. (13 starts)
RT- Goines, Jr (19 starts)

USC's OL lost 2 3year starters in Martin and Graf.... will most likely not get back A.Walker..... Will be starting at least 2 players who have done absolutely nothing in college football thus far with Banner and Rodgers; and odds are strong that USC will be forced to start one of their true Frosh's.

LT- Wheeler, rSo. (13 starts)
LG- ?? Lobendahn? Falah? (0 starts)
C- Tuerk, Sr (20 starts)
RG- Rodgers, rFR (0 starts)
RT- Banner, rSo. (0 starts, barely played in 2 games)


USC's OL hasn't even figured out what 'work' is yet.

and if you think SC's D is going to be any better than UCLA's because of losing 3 starters, why??? SC lost Kennard, Uko, and Bailey....  UCLA's Defense started 5 Frosh's vs USC last year.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 2:08 PM

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This board is so entertaining to read pre-season. If only National Championships, Heisman's, Davey O'Brien's Doak Walker's, Outland's and other awards were given out in July and August when sc fan false bravado is always at its highest point. Looking back, I think sc has won the last 5 "August National Championships." That is super impressive! 7WS will get you therel its gonna happen! (But, sadly, Kessler is nowhere near the QB that Hundley is. I know the rational among you agree)
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Posted: 07/07/2014 2:25 PM

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Given the fact that Hundley did look good against us last year, I give a slight edge to Hundley, early on, however, Cody is coming on strong.  

I expect that Cody may take a small step backwards given the new up tempo offense but by the time the UCLA game rolls around he will be in full swing.

The key is that Hundley will face a defense that has spent the year defensing an up tempo offense, ours. Although the pistol is a variation it still is based upon mobility of the quarterback. That will make the assignments clearer and well rehearsed for our defense. Maintaining gap responsibility is the key.    

Therefore, I do not believe that Hundley will dominate us this year, I expect and good game,  if we remain upright health wise.
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Posted: 07/07/2014 2:57 PM

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So please tell me how many walk on Players UCLA started on Offense or Defense last year ,SC had several 
offensive lineman Nathan Guertler and tight end Chris Willson.,Chris Wilson was also the forth string Qb before he  got hurt and was out for the year ,Don't forget George Katrib  and Robby Kolanz who played in most of the games , No excuses here those are Facts  
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posted: today 10:23 am

re: who has the better year: kessler or hundley? 


hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.



You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  
LOL.. excuses, excuses, excuses....that's all you ever write..

UCLA was missing  MORE players that were STARTERS than USC was at kickoff... UCLA had more backup guys suited up available on the sideline; but this is the SC/UCLA game, where it's the starters who play.

USC's OL was completely intact the entire year all the way until midway through the 1st quarter of the UCLA game....not a single missed game for them.....  UCLA was down both starting OT's along with the #1 OT backup; so UCLA was starting 3 true Frosh OL's vs USC(and then one was kicked out for the skirmish, forcing a 3rd string player into the lineup at RT in the 1st quarter).. 

SC had all of their top WRs available: Lee, Aghalor, Rodgers, Flournoy...... had both TE's.... had Silas Redd, Tre Madden, Buck Allen, and Ty Isaac at RB; had the ENTIRE STARTING OL available.....

SC had every Front 7 starter playing BUT OLB/DE Breslin... had the entire starting secondary intact..... had both kicker and punter healthy....

USC was at full strength, and full health and got beat..... deal with it.

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Posted: 07/07/2014 3:14 PM

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Not in the SC/UCLA game. Those walkon guys played during the middle games when WRs/TEs were hurt....

No excuses for the UCLA game when the Bruins were the ones starting backups and true Frosh's; while SC had all but one original starter.

It's obviously testament to the D last year and coach O since SC survived the soft stretch in the middle of the season being forced to play some walkon's and going Power, and gutting out wins.

But when you guys locked the gates behind our 'little boys'; SC was at full strength.
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So please tell me how many walk on Players UCLA started on Offense or Defense last year ,SC had several 
offensive lineman Nathan Guertler and tight end Chris Willson.,Chris Wilson was also the forth string Qb before he  got hurt and was out for the year ,Don't forget George Katrib  and Robby Kolanz who played in most of the games , No excuses here those are Facts  
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oldmanjay66 wrote:


You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  
nominate | reportposted: today 10:23 am

re: who has the better year: kessler or hundley? 


hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.
LOL.. excuses, excuses, excuses....that's all you ever write..

UCLA was missing  MORE players that were STARTERS than USC was at kickoff... UCLA had more backup guys suited up available on the sideline; but this is the SC/UCLA game, where it's the starters who play.

USC's OL was completely intact the entire year all the way until midway through the 1st quarter of the UCLA game....not a single missed game for them.....  UCLA was down both starting OT's along with the #1 OT backup; so UCLA was starting 3 true Frosh OL's vs USC(and then one was kicked out for the skirmish, forcing a 3rd string player into the lineup at RT in the 1st quarter).. 

SC had all of their top WRs available: Lee, Aghalor, Rodgers, Flournoy...... had both TE's.... had Silas Redd, Tre Madden, Buck Allen, and Ty Isaac at RB; had the ENTIRE STARTING OL available.....

SC had every Front 7 starter playing BUT OLB/DE Breslin... had the entire starting secondary intact..... had both kicker and punter healthy....

USC was at full strength, and full health and got beat..... deal with it.


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Posted: 07/07/2014 3:32 PM

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So again ,I ask you how many walk on players  did UCLa start last year on Offense or Defense ,,its a pretty simple question ,Give me a # please 
bouncepass wrote: Not in the SC/UCLA game. Those walkon guys played during the middle games when WRs/TEs were hurt....

No excuses for the UCLA game when the Bruins were the ones starting backups and true Frosh's; while SC had all but one original starter.

It's obviously testament to the D last year and coach O since SC survived the soft stretch in the middle of the season being forced to play some walkon's and going Power, and gutting out wins.

But when you guys locked the gates behind our 'little boys'; SC was at full strength.
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--- SCweARE111 wrote:

So please tell me how many walk on Players UCLA started on Offense or Defense last year ,SC had several 
offensive lineman Nathan Guertler and tight end Chris Willson.,Chris Wilson was also the forth string Qb before he  got hurt and was out for the year ,Don't forget George Katrib  and Robby Kolanz who played in most of the games , No excuses here those are Facts  
bouncepass wrote:
oldmanjay66 wrote:You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  
nominate | reportposted: today 10:23 am

re: who has the better year: kessler or hundley? 


hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.
LOL.. excuses, excuses, excuses....that's all you ever write..

UCLA was missing  MORE players that were STARTERS than USC was at kickoff... UCLA had more backup guys suited up available on the sideline; but this is the SC/UCLA game, where it's the starters who play.

USC's OL was completely intact the entire year all the way until midway through the 1st quarter of the UCLA game....not a single missed game for them.....  UCLA was down both starting OT's along with the #1 OT backup; so UCLA was starting 3 true Frosh OL's vs USC(and then one was kicked out for the skirmish, forcing a 3rd string player into the lineup at RT in the 1st quarter).. 

SC had all of their top WRs available: Lee, Aghalor, Rodgers, Flournoy...... had both TE's.... had Silas Redd, Tre Madden, Buck Allen, and Ty Isaac at RB; had the ENTIRE STARTING OL available.....

SC had every Front 7 starter playing BUT OLB/DE Breslin... had the entire starting secondary intact..... had both kicker and punter healthy....

USC was at full strength, and full health and got beat..... deal with it.


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Posted: 07/07/2014 3:47 PM

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not in the sc/ucla game. those walkon guys played during the middle games when wrs/tes were hurt....

no excuses for the ucla game when the bruins were the ones starting backups and true frosh's; while sc had all but one original starter.

it's obviously testament to the d last year and coach o since sc survived the soft stretch in the middle of the season being forced to play some walkon's and going power, and gutting out wins.

but when you guys locked the gates behind our 'little boys'; sc was at full strength.
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so please tell me how many walk on players ucla started on offense or defense last year ,sc had several 
offensive lineman nathan guertler and tight end chris willson.,chris wilson was also the forth string qb before he  got hurt and was out for the year ,don't forget george katrib  and robby kolanz who played in most of the games , no excuses here those are facts  
bouncepass wrote: 
oldmanjay66 wrote:


you do realize that sc was down to 47 scholarship players and had some key injuries for that game?  so, we will see whats  coming this year.  hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  they lost a lot of key players on their d and their o line is still a work in progress.  should make for a very interesting year.  
nominate | reportposted: today 10:23 am

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hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.
lol.. excuses, excuses, excuses....that's all you ever write..

ucla was missing  more players that were starters than usc was at kickoff... ucla had more backup guys suited up available on the sideline; but this is the sc/ucla game, where it's the starters who play.

usc's ol was completely intact the entire year all the way until midway through the 1st quarter of the ucla game....not a single missed game for them.....  ucla was down both starting ot's along with the #1 ot backup; so ucla was starting 3 true frosh ol's vs usc(and then one was kicked out for the skirmish, forcing a 3rd string player into the lineup at rt in the 1st quarter).. 

sc had all of their top wrs available: lee, aghalor, rodgers, flournoy...... had both te's.... had silas redd, tre madden, buck allen, and ty isaac at rb; had the entire starting ol available.....

sc had every front 7 starter playing but olb/de breslin... had the entire starting secondary intact..... had both kicker and punter healthy....

usc was at full strength, and full health and got beat..... deal with it.


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You base your Football program on one year, one F'ing year and that year you got killed by Stanford, Oregon and for awhile you stayed up with AZ ST.  YOU beat USC, GREAT, that is the only horn you have to blow all year.  You even have a thread on your own stupid board that this is the year to wake up the sleeping giant.  For god sakes, that Giant has been sleeping for 50 years, in my book it's called DEAD.  Name something positive from last year other then beating USC.  You cry about your schedule, playing Stanford, Oregon, AZ St in the same year.  Give me something POSITIVE and answer SC111 Question.  Take this to the bank, you will NEVER, NEVER be what USC is to College Football, NEVER!!!  So, go watch Basketball. 


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Posted: 07/07/2014 3:52 PM

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UCLA had 1 walkon starter last year: Fullback Phillip Ruhl.
SCweARE111 wrote: So again ,I ask you how many walk on players  did UCLa start last year on Offense or Defense ,,its a pretty simple question ,Give me a # please 
bouncepass wrote: Not in the SC/UCLA game. Those walkon guys played during the middle games when WRs/TEs were hurt....

No excuses for the UCLA game when the Bruins were the ones starting backups and true Frosh's; while SC had all but one original starter.

It's obviously testament to the D last year and coach O since SC survived the soft stretch in the middle of the season being forced to play some walkon's and going Power, and gutting out wins.

But when you guys locked the gates behind our 'little boys'; SC was at full strength.
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--- SCweARE111 wrote:

So please tell me how many walk on Players UCLA started on Offense or Defense last year ,SC had several 
offensive lineman Nathan Guertler and tight end Chris Willson.,Chris Wilson was also the forth string Qb before he  got hurt and was out for the year ,Don't forget George Katrib  and Robby Kolanz who played in most of the games , No excuses here those are Facts  
bouncepass wrote:
oldmanjay66 wrote:You do realize that SC was down to 47 Scholarship Players and had some key injuries for that game?  So, we will see whats  coming this year.  Hundley is a very good football player and he sparks that team.  They lost a lot of key players on their D and their O line is still a work in progress.  Should make for a very interesting year.  
nominate | reportposted: today 10:23 am

re: who has the better year: kessler or hundley? 


hope you are correct g but i can't shake memories of the last game with them when he ran at will against us and was, honestly even though it pains me to say it, dominant.
LOL.. excuses, excuses, excuses....that's all you ever write..

UCLA was missing  MORE players that were STARTERS than USC was at kickoff... UCLA had more backup guys suited up available on the sideline; but this is the SC/UCLA game, where it's the starters who play.

USC's OL was completely intact the entire year all the way until midway through the 1st quarter of the UCLA game....not a single missed game for them.....  UCLA was down both starting OT's along with the #1 OT backup; so UCLA was starting 3 true Frosh OL's vs USC(and then one was kicked out for the skirmish, forcing a 3rd string player into the lineup at RT in the 1st quarter).. 

SC had all of their top WRs available: Lee, Aghalor, Rodgers, Flournoy...... had both TE's.... had Silas Redd, Tre Madden, Buck Allen, and Ty Isaac at RB; had the ENTIRE STARTING OL available.....

SC had every Front 7 starter playing BUT OLB/DE Breslin... had the entire starting secondary intact..... had both kicker and punter healthy....

USC was at full strength, and full health and got beat..... deal with it.


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Posted: 07/07/2014 4:00 PM

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You're talking to a program that has coveted many of those awards compared to your program.  Do you realize what a joke you two have become on this board.  When people talk about all time Football programs, FUCLA isn't ever in the Top 10 and maybe the top 20 or whatever.  YOU HAD one Good year.  

1. Michigan: 910-321-36
2. Texas: 875-338-33
3. Notre Dame: 874-305-42
4. Nebraska: 860-354-40
5. Ohio State: 849-316-53
6. Oklahoma: 836-310-53
7. Alabama: 832-321-43
8. Tennessee: 804-361-55
9. USC: 786-319-54
10. Georgia 759-402-54

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You are living in the PAST.... who gives a **** about your hundreds of wins from 100 years ago?

where's Florida St., Auburn, LSU, UCLA?

answer: not in your 'top 10' all-time list; but stronger programs than you right now, and way closer to competing for National championships than you are.
oldmanjay66 wrote: You're talking to a program that has coveted many of those awards compared to your program.  Do you realize what a joke you two have become on this board.  When people talk about all time Football programs, FUCLA isn't ever in the Top 10 and maybe the top 20 or whatever.  YOU HAD one Good year.  

1. Michigan: 910-321-36
2. Texas: 875-338-33
3. Notre Dame: 874-305-42
4. Nebraska: 860-354-40
5. Ohio State: 849-316-53
6. Oklahoma: 836-310-53
7. Alabama: 832-321-43
8. Tennessee: 804-361-55
9. USC: 786-319-54
10. Georgia 759-402-54

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