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Posted: 6/27/2014 1:52 PM

Jimmy Haslam rumor 


Yo! 

Ikm sure no one will probably remember me posting in advance of  the BIG Shakeup in Coaching before Chud got fired, but I was right on that one and now I have some more juicy gossip..


I am hearing that there are certain people that are going to flip and plea bargain against Jimmy.   They have not released anything to the public yet, but  there is a serioulsy legit chance Jimmy is going down. 

Let the haters hate.. but I am in knoxville and I have an ear to the grindstone.  Hate on.. biggrin


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Posted: 6/27/2014 1:57 PM

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That reminds me, whatever happened to highvolt and his "rock solid info"? And all those people who got on me for not believing him? Where are you all now?
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Posted: 6/27/2014 1:58 PM

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MIght be why the PR guy left.  He's like, "F this"




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Posted: 6/27/2014 1:59 PM

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Please rotate your head slightly... and press a little harder on that grindstone.   

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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:00 PM

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Animaleyz wrote: That reminds me, whatever happened to highvolt and his "rock solid info"? And all those people who got on me for not believing him? Where are you all now?
I tell you what.  I will give you my friend and lawyers name  who told me....  uh  not happening


I will say this.. Mark Hazelwood probably wont be buying a Browns Jersey anytime soon


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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:11 PM

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I didn't ask for your sources, I was talking about someone who made a prediction in this very forum, in early May, that within two weeks, Haslam would plead guilty. I doubted him, and people jumped all over me.



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Animaleyz wrote: That reminds me, whatever happened to highvolt and his "rock solid info"? And all those people who got on me for not believing him? Where are you all now?
I tell you what.  I will give you my friend and lawyers name  who told me....  uh  not happening


I will say this.. Mark Hazelwood probably wont be buying a Browns Jersey anytime soon

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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:17 PM

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I'm sure he's nervous not
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:21 PM

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radovic wrote: I'm sure he's nervous not
haha.  Its funny all the money in the world is not gonna help when your guilty and it can be proven.  I wouldnt want to be Jimmy right now folks...


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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:21 PM

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Ha!
Yeah.
You notice the NOSE is to the grindstone.
The EAR is to the ground.
Mixing metaphors.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:22 PM

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If it happens oh well.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:23 PM

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starne wrote: Ha!
Yeah.
You notice the NOSE is to the grindstone.
The EAR is to the ground.
Mixing metaphors.
YankeeBigDog wrote: Please rotate your head slightly... and press a little harder on that grindstone.   

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i got my nose to the curb


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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:24 PM

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He should have never contributed all that money to the Republican party...ohlord  He's done for!
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:28 PM

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I hope he does go down. Can't stand him.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:31 PM

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I'm one who seriously doubts that Haslam was complicit in the cheating of those clients - either purposely or tacitly.

Here's why: the way to make big $$$$ in that business - which he has - is to funnel professional drivers into your truck stops by being competitive (or better) with your fuel costs.  

Once you have such a captive audience, you systematically sell them higher margin food, beverages, and services to make your profit.  

Cheating the companies who can force their employees and contract drivers to buy their fuel from you is just plain counter-productive to the way you make the real money in that business.

Whatever you might think about Haslam's character, IMO he is too smart of a businessman to be a party to that kind of scheme.  It's putting the golden goose at risk for what amounts to a few pennies in the larger scheme.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:36 PM

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Chidawg wrote: I'm one who seriously doubts that Haslam was complicit in the cheating of those clients - either purposely or tacitly.

Here's why: the way to make big $$$$ in that business - which he has - is to funnel professional drivers into your truck stops by being competitive (or better) with your fuel costs.  

Once you have such a captive audience, you systematically sell them higher margin food, beverages, and services to make your profit.  

Cheating the companies who can force their employees and contract drivers to buy their fuel from you is just plain counter-productive to the way you make the real money in that business.

Whatever you might think about Haslam's character, IMO he is too smart of a businessman to be a party to that kind of scheme.  It's putting the golden goose at risk for what amounts to a few pennies in the larger scheme.
People don't seem to be able to understand that if the company had to settle claims to back before Pilot acquired Flying J, this stuff was happening before Haslam.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:36 PM

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Chidawg wrote: I'm one who seriously doubts that Haslam was complicit in the cheating of those clients - either purposely or tacitly.

Here's why: the way to make big $$$$ in that business - which he has - is to funnel professional drivers into your truck stops by being competitive (or better) with your fuel costs.  

Once you have such a captive audience, you systematically sell them higher margin food, beverages, and services to make your profit.  

Cheating the companies who can force their employees and contract drivers to buy their fuel from you is just plain counter-productive to the way you make the real money in that business.

Whatever you might think about Haslam's character, IMO he is too smart of a businessman to be a party to that kind of scheme.  It's putting the golden goose at risk for what amounts to a few pennies in the larger scheme.
When hurricane Katrina hit,  Haslam and Pilot flying J  raised the price of Gasoline to 4. 50 cents for no reason.   He was found guilty of  price gouging.   You can look that up.   He aint that smart, becuase if the information I got is correct,  he is in big trouble.     Guess time will tell


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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:36 PM

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Chidawg wrote: I'm one who seriously doubts that Haslam was complicit in the cheating of those clients - either purposely or tacitly.

Here's why: the way to make big $$$$ in that business - which he has - is to funnel professional drivers into your truck stops by being competitive (or better) with your fuel costs.  

Once you have such a captive audience, you systematically sell them higher margin food, beverages, and services to make your profit.  

Cheating the companies who can force their employees and contract drivers to buy their fuel from you is just plain counter-productive to the way you make the real money in that business.

Whatever you might think about Haslam's character, IMO he is too smart of a businessman to be a party to that kind of scheme.  It's putting the golden goose at risk for what amounts to a few pennies in the larger scheme.
Unless, like has been noted in the investigation, that the companies being cheated are ones that are specifically targered because they wouldn't notice.  Not all customers in the rebate program were being bilked- only the select few smaller companies that were not/not capable of doing due dilligence on their fuel expenditures to know that Pilot was not kicking back rebates like they should.  Pilot was being careful not to piss of the wrong clients with this.  So I hate to say it, but yes this scheme fit into the model because it was gaining money BACK from a loss leader (rebate program) by working over the select few.  I'm sorry but there is no way that Jimmy did not know that the sales division wasn't somehow bringing in millions more than they were projected to.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:40 PM

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I just don't see how he could be going down. It would have happened already after the raid. IHMO, it looks like they don't have **** and the people that could flip have nothing to bargain with. Unless they have recordings or memos implicating Jimmy, I just don't see how it takes him down.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:43 PM

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Kidwilson33 wrote:
radovic wrote: I'm sure he's nervous not
haha.  Its funny all the money in the world is not gonna help when your guilty and it can be proven.  I wouldnt want to be Jimmy right now folks...
You really have no idea what a white collar prison is like. It will be just like one of his many penthouses except the food will be a little worse.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:43 PM

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When will this break?


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Yo! 

Ikm sure no one will probably remember me posting in advance of  the BIG Shakeup in Coaching before Chud got fired, but I was right on that one and now I have some more juicy gossip..


I am hearing that there are certain people that are going to flip and plea bargain against Jimmy.   They have not released anything to the public yet, but  there is a serioulsy legit chance Jimmy is going down. 

Let the haters hate.. but I am in knoxville and I have an ear to the grindstone.  Hate on.. biggrin

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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:45 PM

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EvilElf wrote: I just don't see how he could be going down. It would have happened already after the raid. IHMO, it looks like they don't have **** and the people that could flip have nothing to bargain with. Unless they have recordings or memos implicating Jimmy, I just don't see how it takes him down.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:46 PM

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With our luck the news will break right after we go 4-0 to start the season sending us into an 12 game losing streak.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:55 PM

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Which leads to our Super Bowl, the NFL draft! Two top picks!


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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:58 PM

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So there's a chance Jimmy leaves the country? What if he takes the browns with him?

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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:00 PM

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KID33:

He was found guilty of  price gouging.   You can look that up.

AA:

Not here to defend Jimmy Jam, but if you're gonna make a claim, the onus is on you to look it up and provide a link. for the rest of us.

That's how it works.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:05 PM

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Aardvark wrote: KID33:

He was found guilty of  price gouging.   You can look that up.

AA:

Not here to defend Jimmy Jam, but if you're gonna make a claim, the onus is on you to look it up and provide a link. for the rest of us.

That's how it works.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:10 PM

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If Kidwilson33 is reporting a unsubstantiated rumor then it HAS to be true..... bored1



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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:15 PM

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Manziel and Pettine are the face of the franchise now.  Thankfully the owner fades into the dust.

I say if he's survived the bloodletting so far, he probably bought some people off, OR  is innocent.

I'd hate to think he was so corrupt as to let  people fall on the sword,  but  i would be surprised
if  the  rip offs didnt come from on high
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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:17 PM

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"Proven"

If there was a document trail that implicated Jimmy, the FBI would have found it.

If there are criminals who will point a finger and repeat as speech they learned - in return for a lighter sentence - it's not exactly the same as fact. Jimmy has high priced lawyers, those guys will shread the turncoats if there isn't any hard evidence to support the plea deal.

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radovic wrote: I'm sure he's nervous not
haha.  Its funny all the money in the world is not gonna help when your guilty and it can be proven.  I wouldnt want to be Jimmy right now folks...

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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:42 PM

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Kidwilson33 wrote:
Chidawg wrote: I'm one who seriously doubts that Haslam was complicit in the cheating of those clients - either purposely or tacitly.

Here's why: the way to make big $$$$ in that business - which he has - is to funnel professional drivers into your truck stops by being competitive (or better) with your fuel costs.  

Once you have such a captive audience, you systematically sell them higher margin food, beverages, and services to make your profit.  

Cheating the companies who can force their employees and contract drivers to buy their fuel from you is just plain counter-productive to the way you make the real money in that business.

Whatever you might think about Haslam's character, IMO he is too smart of a businessman to be a party to that kind of scheme.  It's putting the golden goose at risk for what amounts to a few pennies in the larger scheme.
When hurricane Katrina hit,  Haslam and Pilot flying J  raised the price of Gasoline to 4. 50 cents for no reason.   He was found guilty of  price gouging.   You can look that up.   He aint that smart, becuase if the information I got is correct,  he is in big trouble.     Guess time will tell
Wow, you couldn't be any more misleading if you tried... your very own source refutes your claim that "He was found guilty of price gouging.". Pilot and other gas retailers settled out of court and made restitution to consumers. Settling out of court isn't an admission of guilt let alone a "finding" of guilt. Basically, even if they were "gouging" consumers at the 4 gas stations in question they made probably about $40,000 tops on the extra buck or so a gallon they charged. Litigating the case any further would be far more expensive than this settlement. It's like if I sued you for 40 cents. Would you actually litigate that or would it be easier to just hand over a few nickels?

Your bias is very apparent in this statement and makes your original post and subsequent knee jerk reactions to defend yourself seem even less credible. For those that care but don't want to read the whole article(your "evidence", here's the nuts and bolts(essentially Pilot and other retailers claim they raised the price to prevent shortages and they maintain they were comparable with other retailers):

The attorney general’s investigation began last fall after consumers complained that some gas stations unfairly raised gas prices after hurricanes shuttered Gulf Coast oil refineries and left several Southern states without enough gas. According to the Attorney General’s office, the defendants who settled deny any wrongdoing and say they settled to avoid the time and expense associated with litigation.

The defendants who settled advertised and sold regular unleaded gasoline at prices ranging from $4.69 to $5.98 per gallon, according to Attorney General Bob Cooper.

Pilot Travel Centers and Pilot Corp. issued their statement today shortly after Cooper’s announcement. Pilot locations involved in the attorney general’s investigation were three stores in Knoxville and one in Powell. The probe involved eight Rocky Top Markets locations in East Tennessee and two Git ‘N Go stores in Clinton.

Pilot said the Attorney General’s office reviewed retail petroleum prices for the period of Sept. 4 through Oct. 8 at 38 Pilot stores within a 25-mile radius of downtown Knoxville. During that time Pilot delivered 1,563 loads of regular unleaded gasoline, with about 9,000 gallons per load, to the 38 stores.

“At no time did Pilot’s retail price for unleaded gasoline ever exceed $4.99,” the company’s statement pointed out. “As a result, Pilot agreed on a settlement with the Attorney General’s Office to ensure that customers affected at these four locations over the three-day period would receive a refund for the amount paid that was above an agreed retail price.”

Pilot said it has put in place a new software program that will ensure complete compliance with state pricing laws.

“Pilot’s number one priority is serving our customers and we were working hard during this period of time to make certain that fuel was available to our customers at the best price possible,” Pilot added.


And if you can't believe the evil Jimmy Haslam and Pilot maybe you can believe one of the other companies that settled and pretty much said the same...

Git N’ Go Inc. President Carol Wilshire said she was “extremely disappointed” that the attorney general’s office made the “unfounded accusations” against the Clinton-based small business.

“Git ‘N Go did not engage in any price gouging or violate any laws. Unlike major brand gas stations, Git ‘N Go must purchase its gasoline on the ‘spot market,’ which has significant fluctuations in price, particularly during extreme shortages,” Wilshire said.

She added that the company’s locations sold regular unleaded gasoline at $4.99 a gallon for one day on Sept. 15 and “only sold 1,867 gallons at that price. She further explained that her company didn’t know the cost of the gas purchased from a Kentucky distributor until Sept. 16, and believed it would be as high as $4.80 a gallon.

“Given the anticipated cost and because it did not want to run out of gas for the citizens in its community, Git ‘N Go priced its unleaded gasoline at $4.99 per gallon on Sept. 15, which was a price that equaled or was below its competitors’ retail prices for that day,” Wilshire said.

She added that when her company received the final cost of the gas on Sept. 16 and it was lower than expected, the price was lowered 30 cents below competitors’ prices and said Git ‘N Go made no more gross profit on Sept. 15 than many other days in 2008.

“Despite these facts, Git ‘N Go has made the decision to enter into this settlement to avoid the significant time and expense that would be involved in litigating this matter with the State. These expenses are real and significant for a small business like Git ‘N Go, which unlike the State, does not have an unlimited war chest which is funded by our tax dollars,” Wilshire said.

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