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Re: WOW, Stupid Tennessee Cops!

Posted: 2/16/2013 3:07 PM

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dmnc94 wrote:
FestivusRules wrote:
dmnc94 wrote:
topdawg29 wrote: The driver of this van is clearly a pedophile.  He should be pulled over and arrested on the spot.




If that was some secret code for pedophiles and he was driving in an area where pedophiles were know to be then yes he should be pulled over and questioned. For the same reason you can not carry a realistic toy gun into a bank.
His point is spot on.  Let's go back to my post where I sarcastically note that if I were smuggling pot I would surely have a sticker of a pot leaf on my car.  Are you really saying that drug smugglers advertise their intent?  This is what gets me about this whole thing.  Even if I didn't recognize the buckeye leaf and thought it was a pot leaf, would I pull this car over?  I think not.  Probably the last car I would pull over.  This car might contain 1/4 ounce of pot for personal use but I can tell you with 99% certainty that it won't contain a pound or more being smuggled across state lines.

I hate the drug war anyway so I'm really biased against this stuff.  Pot?  Really?  Certainly less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, maybe even less so than caffeine.  But looking past that, these cops were either stupid or they were looking to bust only a casual user.  Hardly worth the time IMO even if I were looking to try to stop pot smuggling.

Your tax dollars at work.
I dont disagree that the cops were dumb. I have moved on to the profiling part of the discussion and yes my example was a little over the top, but if your dress, or you have stickers, or in some way shape or form look like someone who might be wrong doing. Then the cops most certainly check you out. Even if it is just a few minute QandA. Call that profiling if you want, if you dont like it pull your pants up, dont wear heavy metal T shirts, turn your ball cap the right way, and dont wear ripped up jeans. If you want to wear those things which is your right, then understand in some instances the cops are going to watch you a little closer and may even stop and chat with you.

Absolute BS ^^^^^..... every freaking bit of it and its exactly why cops don't have friends

You just can't look at anyone without suspicion and its so totally obvious

The very first thing you do IOW  is judge people by the way they look, what they wear, how their hair is cut, what style eyeglassees they wear, car they drive, the list of judgements is freaking endless
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:09 PM

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donnyunitas wrote: I still want to know what was suspicious about the decal?

Just another dumb ass redneck living down to their stereotype
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Posted: 2/16/2013 3:15 PM

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HarleyD wrote: Yes, it's your right to dress that way but it's also your right to be left alone when you are dressed that way.

I take exception to the notion that it's OK and even to be expected that you forfeit your right to privacy in exchange for exercising your right to free expression, which is exactly what you are endorsing.
No its not you dont have privacy in public. Again I am not talking about full on search and pat downs just a Q and A for them to determine if there is any need to go further. Also not talking about them busting down your door. I am talking about being out in PUBLIC you know where the police have some control and them making sure you are not causing any harm to the PUBLIC you know the people they protect.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 7:02 PM

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dmnc94 wrote:
HarleyD wrote: Yes, it's your right to dress that way but it's also your right to be left alone when you are dressed that way.

I take exception to the notion that it's OK and even to be expected that you forfeit your right to privacy in exchange for exercising your right to free expression, which is exactly what you are endorsing.
No its not you dont have privacy in public. Again I am not talking about full on search and pat downs just a Q and A for them to determine if there is any need to go further. Also not talking about them busting down your door. I am talking about being out in PUBLIC you know where the police have some control and them making sure you are not causing any harm to the PUBLIC you know the people they protect.
Police action of any sort should not be taken on apearance alone.

From the Terry v. Ohio decision I cited previously...

Concurrence: (White, J.) A policeman can address questions to anyone on the streets, but citizens are not obliged to answer, and answers may not be compelled. A refusal to answer is no basis for an arrest, but it may be a basis for continued observation.

 

...so the cop may want to initiate a Q & A but you are not legally obliged to engage him and cannot be arrested if you do not.  They cannot stop you in a moving vehicle for a "Q and A".

You on the other hand are saying it's OK to stop a carful of kids in a well to do neighborhood based solely on their being kids, being where they "don't belong" and that it's OK because they can't prove there wasn't a reason to stop them and it's their words against the cops.

That's wrong.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:55 PM

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They will let any tard wear a badge these days! Plenty of Barney Fife squirrels trying to get a nut out there.

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Talk about some really dumb cops...

Buckeye leaf mistaken by Tennessee police

Tennessee police might need better instruction in botany and Buckeye football.

A 65-year-old woman recently came under suspicion, she reported, for having a Buckeye leaf decal on her car. The cops mistook it for a marijuana symbol.

“It’s just amazing they would be that dumb,” Bonnie Jonas-Boggioni said.

She lives in Plano, Texas, but she grew up in Columbus and is known as a lifelong Buckeyes fan.

She has served as president of the Ohio State Alumni Club in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

On Feb. 4, Jonas-Boggioni and husband Guido Boggioni, 66, were driving home to Plano after a trip to Columbus to attend the funeral of his mother, Eleanor, 92.

They were in the westbound lanes of I-40, a few miles east of Memphis, when a black police SUV with flashing lights pulled them over, Jonas-Boggioni said.A second black SUV soon pulled up behind the first one.

“Knowing I wasn’t speeding, I couldn’t imagine why,” she said.

Two officers approached, one on each side of the car.

“They were very serious,” she said. “They had the body armor and the guns.”

Because the couple’s two schnauzers were barking furiously, one of the officers had Jonas-Boggioni exit the car so he could hear her better.

“What are you doing with a marijuana sticker on your bumper?” he asked her.

She explained that it is actually a Buckeye leaf decal, just like the ones that Ohio State players are given to put on their helmets to mark good plays.

“He looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language,” she said.

At that point, Boggioni got out of the car to show that he was wearing a commemorative sweatshirt from the 2002 national-championship season, complete with a Buckeye leaf.

The officer then explained that someone from outside his jurisdiction — apparently another officer — had spotted the leaf sticker and thought it might indicate that the car was carrying marijuana, Jonas-Boggioni said.

She was too rattled to notice what police department the officers represented. But she suspects that a joint drug-interdiction effort was under way because they had passed several law-enforcement vehicles from different agencies.

Neither the Tennessee Highway Patrol nor the Shelby County sheriff’s office in Memphis had information about the traffic stop. A marijuana sticker would not be a sufficient reason to stop a car, said a spokeswoman for the West Tennessee Drug Task Force.

Even if it were, Jonas-Boggioni said, police hunting drugs should know that a Buckeye leaf — which has five leaflets — doesn’t look much like a marijuana leaf, which typically has seven leaflets and a narrower shape.

Before they let her go on her way, the officers advised Jonas-Boggioni to remove the decal from her car.

“I said, ‘You mean in Tennessee?’ and he said, ‘No, permanently.’

“I didn’t take it off. . . . This little old lady is no drug dealer.”

www.dispatch.com/content/stories/life_and_e ntertainment/2013/02/14/buckeye-leaf-mistaken-by-p olice-out-of-state.html

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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:06 PM

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The only people that will try and justify this moronic and intolerable behavior are (ex)cops and the misinformed.
We have become a police state and to assume it will only effect the bad guys is giganticaly stupid.

 I could be suave... but how many crude guys do you know? 

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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:29 AM

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Chopper9 wrote: The only people that will try and justify this moronic and intolerable behavior are (ex)cops and the misinformed.
We have become a police state and to assume it will only effect the bad guys is giganticaly stupid.
I couldn't be a cop.  Too many stupid laws that I would be required to enforce.  And with these cameras on the cars now you would have no choice.

Couldn't sleep at night if I temporarily ruined someone's life because they had a little pot.  Or if a 20 year old adult had a beer.


"You are what your record says you are."  - Bill Parcells

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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:37 AM

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Last edited 2/21/2013 9:46 AM by Dawgfather

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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:52 AM

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Dawgfather wrote: NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTycQ2JeKQY cool
Cypress Hill, now there's a blast from the past.
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